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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23808138 - 11/06/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: thats a stretch, no evidence at all, disputed by the campaign,
The clinton foundation is actually under investigation by the FBI, TRUMP is not
nice try though

Trump's campaign disputes that they used funds to pay for court cases, paintings and for the payment of certain lifestyles? The only dispute I could find was this one:
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In typical Washington Post fashion, they’ve gotten their facts wrong. It is the Clinton Foundation that is set up to make sure the Clintons personally enrich themselves by selling access and trading political favors. The Trump Foundation has no paid board, no management fees, no rent or overhead, and no family members on its payroll.
There was not, and could not be, any intent or motive for the Trump Foundation to make improper payments. All contributions are reported to the IRS, and all Foundation donations are publicly disclosed. Mr. Trump is generous both with his money and with his time. He has provided millions of dollars to fund his Foundation and a multitude of other charitable causes.
The Post’s reporting is peppered with inaccuracies and omissions from a biased reporter who is clearly intent on distracting attention away from the corrupt Clinton Foundation, a vehicle for the Clintons to peddle influence at the expense of the American people. Mr. Trump personally and the Trump Foundation, however, are staying focused on their charitable giving to veterans, the police, children and other deserving recipients.
There is no dispute about the actual places the money went, and there seem to be documents supporting that he used Trump Foundation money to pay these agreements off.
As I understand it, there were some court cases that were settled on the terms that Trump donated to certain charities. He instead took money out of the Trump foundation to pay for these donations. The thing on the painting was a fund raiser commission, but it's kind of odd that he would pay for a painting of himself and keep the painting as a charitable move using money that was allotted for charitable purposes (tax free and all).
If he had settled a court case with the intent of paying to charities, should the money not have come out of his own pocket rather than the coffers of his charity organization? In this case, it's just as scummy as what Clinton has been doing, except the Clinton Foundation actually donates even more to specific causes despite the lavish overhead costs for lifestyle.
There were some other things such as foot ball helmets and other items that are in his personal collection as well. It's as if he created the charity for the purpose of giving himself a tax free auction wallet.
I'm not saying any of this to defend the Clinton Foundation though, but there is a clear double standard here that you're ignoring for obvious reasons.
"Nice try though".
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: PatrickKn]
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it's incredibly difficult to shore up the money for an election...especially for a business man who's own personal fortune is tied up in his businesses, assets, ect....
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: PatrickKn] 1
#23808146 - 11/06/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: Great Scott] 5
#23808160 - 11/06/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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PeyoteZen said: Why do you care more about molehills than mountains?
I talk about Clinton plenty as well and have a dislike of each of them. You guys argue about this like it's a sports match rather than an election at times. There doesn't seem to be any actual authenticity to the outrage over Clinton from some of you, when you defend Trump for doing a lot of the same shit that you decry Clinton for doing. It's a mindless circle jerk and none of you care about policy, only that the candidate you've invested trust in reigns victorious.
If the ethical concerns over his charity are nothing, then let's stop playing like it's a big deal for Clinton too. If it's a big deal, then have some genuine distaste for shady practices both of them are guilty of.
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: PatrickKn]
#23808308 - 11/06/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said:
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hostileuniverse said: thats a stretch, no evidence at all, disputed by the campaign,
The clinton foundation is actually under investigation by the FBI, TRUMP is not
nice try though

Trump's campaign disputes that they used funds to pay for court cases, paintings and for the payment of certain lifestyles? The only dispute I could find was this one:
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In typical Washington Post fashion, they’ve gotten their facts wrong. It is the Clinton Foundation that is set up to make sure the Clintons personally enrich themselves by selling access and trading political favors. The Trump Foundation has no paid board, no management fees, no rent or overhead, and no family members on its payroll.
There was not, and could not be, any intent or motive for the Trump Foundation to make improper payments. All contributions are reported to the IRS, and all Foundation donations are publicly disclosed. Mr. Trump is generous both with his money and with his time. He has provided millions of dollars to fund his Foundation and a multitude of other charitable causes.
The Post’s reporting is peppered with inaccuracies and omissions from a biased reporter who is clearly intent on distracting attention away from the corrupt Clinton Foundation, a vehicle for the Clintons to peddle influence at the expense of the American people. Mr. Trump personally and the Trump Foundation, however, are staying focused on their charitable giving to veterans, the police, children and other deserving recipients.
There is no dispute about the actual places the money went, and there seem to be documents supporting that he used Trump Foundation money to pay these agreements off.
As I understand it, there were some court cases that were settled on the terms that Trump donated to certain charities. He instead took money out of the Trump foundation to pay for these donations. The thing on the painting was a fund raiser commission, but it's kind of odd that he would pay for a painting of himself and keep the painting as a charitable move using money that was allotted for charitable purposes (tax free and all).
If he had settled a court case with the intent of paying to charities, should the money not have come out of his own pocket rather than the coffers of his charity organization? In this case, it's just as scummy as what Clinton has been doing, except the Clinton Foundation actually donates even more to specific causes despite the lavish overhead costs for lifestyle.
There were some other things such as foot ball helmets and other items that are in his personal collection as well. It's as if he created the charity for the purpose of giving himself a tax free auction wallet.
I'm not saying any of this to defend the Clinton Foundation though, but there is a clear double standard here that you're ignoring for obvious reasons.
"Nice try though".
He was fined by the IRS for making a political donation from the Trump Foundation. Not just any donation but one to the Florida attorney general that came right after she started looking into Trump University. Donation made, and the investigation disappeared.
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23808310 - 11/06/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: thats a stretch, no evidence at all, disputed by the campaign,
The clinton foundation is actually under investigation by the FBI, TRUMP is not
nice try though
The trump foundation has been shut down for accepting donations when they aren't authorized to do so.
Nice try though
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: koods] 1
#23809024 - 11/07/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: She didn't delete her emails. Some technician did.
Why did she smash her phones? Because that's how you make sure any information on the phone doesn't end up in the wrong hands.
Some technician? You mean Hillary's technician?
They smashed their phones to make sure any information didn't end up in the wrong hands? You mean the FBI's hands after the issued her a subpoena?
You want to know the best way to ensure classified information and work-related communications don't end up in the wrong hands? You keep it on official devices within official channels, which she did not do.
You're an absolute lunatic, Koods.
Sure. I don't know what I'm talking about. But my friend at the state department does:

Yeah... Sure, works for the state department . Totally credible to screen shot a conversation between you and some loser who probably flips burgs
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: Herbologist] 2
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: Herbologist]
#23809207 - 11/07/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Her nominal amount of corruption would matter more if the republicans didn't nominate someone so unqualified for the job of being president.
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: koods]
#23809227 - 11/07/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So you admit she is corrupt? If she is corrupt than she is unfit for candidacy.
There we go.. Finally getting somewhere.
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: koods] 1
#23809262 - 11/07/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: So you admit she is corrupt? If she is corrupt than she is unfit for candidacy.
There we go.. Finally getting somewhere.
To the left, her corruption makes her qualified
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: Herbologist]
#23809278 - 11/07/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: So you admit she is corrupt? If she is corrupt than she is unfit for candidacy.
There we go.. Finally getting somewhere.
Donald Trump has spent his life buying off politicians, and yet you think he's not corrupt. He's worse than being corrupted - he's the corrupter.
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: koods] 1
#23809331 - 11/07/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: So you admit she is corrupt? If she is corrupt than she is unfit for candidacy.
There we go.. Finally getting somewhere.
Donald Trump has spent his life buying off politicians, and yet you think he's not corrupt. He's worse than being corrupted - he's the corrupter.
Buying a whore doesn't make one worse than the whore, you got it ass-backwards once again.
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: koods]
#23809410 - 11/07/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Herbologist said: So you admit she is corrupt? If she is corrupt than she is unfit for candidacy.
There we go.. Finally getting somewhere.
Donald Trump has spent his life buying off politicians, and yet you think he's not corrupt. He's worse than being corrupted - he's the corrupter.
do drug users force people to sell drugs?
That's essentially what you are saying
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: koods]
#23809451 - 11/07/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said:
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Herbologist said: So you admit she is corrupt? If she is corrupt than she is unfit for candidacy.
There we go.. Finally getting somewhere.
Donald Trump has spent his life buying off politicians, and yet you think he's not corrupt. He's worse than being corrupted - he's the corrupter.
Haha you're so blind I feel sorry for you. Like I can't take you serious at all, your credibility has gone to zero with so many members here
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#23809472 - 11/07/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You guys think emails about playing dominos with your grandkids is actually about fucking them.
ohhh one more day before trump crawls back into the hole he came from.
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: koods]
#23809787 - 11/07/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're going to be a very sad man tomorrow. If you weren't getting paid for the amount of baseless shilling you've done over the past year, I truly feel bad for you. Actually, no, I wouldn't. You've made quite clear to everyone that you lack even a shred of integrity. I'm glad you shilled for nothing. You deserved it.
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: Webster10]
#23809789 - 11/07/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ditto
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Re: The FBI is reopening the case on Clinton due to wikileaks!!! [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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