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Nieze
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Bah..what's wrong with my cakes
#23808778 - 11/07/16 07:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So this is my first grow. One cake had minimal growth, (only 3), another has had zero growth, and the one I have pictured, I have no idea if they are pins aborts or knots. Any help on my dilemma would be great. Many thanks.
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: Nieze]
#23808779 - 11/07/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks like pins  What does your fruiting chamber set up look like? Everything looks on track from what I can tell by your pic. Keep misting. congrats on your first pins man
EDIT: wait a sec... I think I spot a spore drop on your perlite lol
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: ComebackKid]
#23808931 - 11/07/16 08:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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SGFC

I've been misting average 3 times a day or as much as I can see when the sides appear dry
And yes. The cap opened and dumped while I was a sleep.
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: Nieze]
#23808957 - 11/07/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nieze said: SGFC

I've been misting average 3 times a day or as much as I can see when the sides appear dry
And yes. The cap opened and dumped while I was a sleep.
Follow the directions for success
The SGFC is not elevated. So the holes in the bottom are blocked and useless.
4-6 inches of perlite. Not 2 inches
The sides always should be dry. They're plastic plastic does not grow so it doesn't need mist. Mist 0-5 times a day not 3. Mist it if it needs it not just a set amount of times
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: Nieze]
#23809013 - 11/07/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nieze said: SGFC

I've been misting average 3 times a day or as much as I can see when the sides appear dry
And yes. The cap opened and dumped while I was a sleep.
yeah, what bodhi said. i just wanted to comment on your perlite, nice and thick having once used some shitty fine perlite that blocked all the bottom holes i can appreciate that.
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: tukkis]
#23809234 - 11/07/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Doesnt look like theres enough holes, looks like theyre much further apart that 2"
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23809284 - 11/07/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Idk if its just me but those cakes look like they could have stood a little more colonization
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: bodhisatta]
#23810780 - 11/07/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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For real, common sense isn't so common. I didn't even think about lifting the tank for better air flow. I thought is was more for water to drip if needed. Makes way more sense for elevation. I'll also add another inch of perilite. I do have 3 inches but with the container size I was worried about not having enough space for vertical growth. I'll continue to monitor cake dampness vs wall moistness for signs. Thanks for your great advices.
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23810785 - 11/07/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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They all were marked 2" before being drilled
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I also believe this is true. They were a 100% colonized, but I only consolidated for 4 days after because I started to see small ones growing inside one of the jars..thinking back I wish I only birthed that one and not the 3. My other 2 jars are still consolidating since they reached 100% it's been 8 days for them. Going to try and wait another 12 days before I think about birthing them. Seems trial and error is my best method for learning. Thanks for your advice much appreciated
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: Nieze]
#23811145 - 11/07/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey I noticed you're using both pieces of your lid as a platform for your cakes. Click the giant cake pic on the left of my signature! You can start bottom watering that cake with the pins!
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: ComebackKid]
#23811532 - 11/08/16 01:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ComebackKid said: Hey I noticed you're using both pieces of your lid as a platform for your cakes. Click the giant cake pic on the left of my signature! You can start bottom watering that cake with the pins! 
I just did this for the cake which is pinning. Thank you so much for the advice.
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: Nieze]
#23811556 - 11/08/16 01:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Really? Unless its a littler tub and the pics make it look bigger but the verticle holes are further apart than tbe horizontal. They look closer to 3" across maybe 4 down but I guess that scale in the picture maybe play a part. Also your perlite is 3" deep you say but at its highest point its not hitting the second set of holes which are at the bottom level with the perlite, which surely means either your perlite is under 2" or your holes are 3"+ apart
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23811558 - 11/08/16 01:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Holes in the lid?
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No lid in the picture so cant say
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23811587 - 11/08/16 02:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't mist pins to hard they might drown.
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: wtfcrazymofo] 1
#23811629 - 11/08/16 03:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You need a lot more perlite homie... And do you have holes in the bottom?
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: LocN9ne]
#23811815 - 11/08/16 06:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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LocN9ne said: You need a lot more perlite homie... And do you have holes in the bottom?

Looks like enough perlite from here.... I'm no expert but I've grown a shit ton of cakes. Looks like four inches or so judging by the holes. I would not do anything drastic till one of the old heads chimes in OP. Dick
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LocN9ne said: You need a lot more perlite homie... And do you have holes in the bottom?

Looks like enough perlite from here.... I'm no expert but I've grown a shit ton of cakes. Looks like four inches or so judging by the holes. I would not do anything drastic till one of the old heads chimes in OP. Dick
You might wanna try reading that again dick before commenting lol, thats clearly loc's cakes not OPs
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23812242 - 11/08/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dick trickle. You drive a race car or something?
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: bodhisatta]
#23812396 - 11/08/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Dick trickle. You drive a race car or something?
No, not recently .... why would you think that?
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: LocN9ne]
#23812405 - 11/08/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn thats pretty harsh mrmazda.
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bodhisatta said: Dick trickle. You drive a race car or something?
No, not recently .... why would you think that?
There's a driver Richard trickle. He shot himself though a few years ago. Probably because his parents didn't save him from being called trickle dick his whole life
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: bodhisatta]
#23812428 - 11/08/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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 I'm not the only Dick Trickle hehehehe
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#23812550 - 11/08/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Damn thats pretty harsh mrmazda.
his names dick wasnt calling him a dick its very rare you can say dick to a person without insulting someone so I seized the opportunity
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23813342 - 11/08/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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 I'm not the only Dick Trickle hehehehe
I'm surprised you haven't heard of the most famous one
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: bodhisatta]
#23813550 - 11/08/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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LocN9ne said: You need a lot more perlite homie... And do you have holes in the bottom?

I have holes 2" spaced on all 6 sides yes.
I took all the advices that were given to me and made the necessary changes. Thanks for all the in put.
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: Nieze]
#23814072 - 11/08/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: LocN9ne]
#23835834 - 11/15/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I'm still having issues after all tweaks to chamber. I'm getting good pins but they are aborting soon and crippled growth. My guess is not good enough FAE. Anyone else believe this, or have another opinion on why I'm getting low growth? This is the latest in the 2nd flush.
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: Nieze]
#23835868 - 11/15/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your cakes are looking a little dry. When they look like they do in this picture you should be misting. In the meantime you can try bottom watering your cakes. The pinset on top left cake will appreciate it big time.
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: ComebackKid]
#23835996 - 11/15/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you have around 95% humidity? You have reliable hygrometer? Do you have a space heater turned on in the room? Turn off any heating to the room or the FC cause that will dry the air out in the room and in the FC.
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: Mateja]
#23836736 - 11/15/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ComebackKid said: Your cakes are looking a little dry. When they look like they do in this picture you should be misting. In the meantime you can try bottom watering your cakes. The pinset on top left cake will appreciate it big time. 
Just added the foils to the lids and added water. I'm sure my room temp is just too hot.
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Mateah said: Do you have around 95% humidity? You have reliable hygrometer? Do you have a space heater turned on in the room? Turn off any heating to the room or the FC cause that will dry the air out in the room and in the FC.
I'm trying to mist as often as I can. Ambient humidity in my area is 80-90% naturally, I believe in conjunction to air exchange temps are too high. I live in the tropics and trying to keep a house cool is difficult and exspensive. I would say average room temps are 83-90.
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Re: Bah..what's wrong with my cakes [Re: Mateja]
#23837145 - 11/15/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mateah said: Do you have around 95% humidity? You have reliable hygrometer? Do you have a space heater turned on in the room? Turn off any heating to the room or the FC cause that will dry the air out in the room and in the FC.
Hygrometers are useless. If it is a proper SGFC and mist and fan is right humidity will not be the issue. Dick
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