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mantis83
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mushroom enlightenment
#23808753 - 11/07/16 07:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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hello,
I was wondering if Its possible to achieve some kind of enlightenment through magic truffles and/or mushrooms? I've tried mushrooms a few times but never had this experience that people refer to as "ego-death". Would love to experience complete enlightenment someday.
Thanks for listening and have a good day
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: mantis83]
#23808789 - 11/07/16 07:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Short answer is no.
Another answer is yes. Lot's of people become more aware and adopt healthier life styles. To discover the mind has power over itself. No drugs required to know and explore that. Takes a long time to experience what shrooms offer naturally. May never happen.
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: mantis83]
#23808794 - 11/07/16 07:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would really like to try this but scared of what might happen if I try this.
I'm not sure what a high does mushroom experience might do. But if this is the path of enlightenment then I would love to try.
Anyone with any advice or experience with this I would love to hear about it, thanks
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: mantis83]
#23808812 - 11/07/16 07:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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5 dry grams of Cubensis will give you a taste of 'ego death'. I feel like people spend lifetimes on enlightenment though. Best to be in a bed in the dark silence. I love the 5-7g range. But I don't need to go there often, after a few times. The most clear way I percieved ego death was laying in bed on 5g eyes closed I was shown all that I was, a piece of paper, then a force crumpled the paper into a little ball and shot it into a trash can. Like who do you think you are now?

After my first couple 5g trips I went vegan for a year and vegetarian ever since. I also love growing mushrooms, sharing them, having trip parties with small groups of close friends and opening them up through mushrooms and dmt mainly
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mantis83
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Short answer is no.
Another answer is yes
what is this supposed to mean? It's either yes or no, not both.
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: Morel Guy]
#23809160 - 11/07/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Make sure you have an extremely open mind and forget all of your beliefs about anything. Don't eat for 3-4 hours. Eat around 4-5 dried grams (about 40-50 fresh) Wait till you start feeling a tad bit of anything that's not placebo Sit your ass in a dark room. Listen to Tibetan prayer music (that's what blasted me off) Than wait for your psyche to be explored like it never has.
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Morel Guy said: Short answer is no.
Another answer is yes. Lot's of people become more aware and adopt healthier life styles. To discover the mind has power over itself. No drugs required to know and explore that. Takes a long time to experience what shrooms offer naturally. May never happen.
I don't agree with that, mushrooms will tell you a lot of things you could never possibly imagine. Healthier lifestyles and such aren't needed from shrooms. But when you want to explore your inner most psyche and wants really ahppening around you and things you can't see and if you want to TRULY experience not knowing who you are and than it hitting you like a fucking freight train, your gonna have to take a psychadelic.
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: mantis83]
#23809166 - 11/07/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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mantis83 said: I would really like to try this but scared of what might happen if I try this.
I'm not sure what a high does mushroom experience might do. But if this is the path of enlightenment then I would love to try.
Anyone with any advice or experience with this I would love to hear about it, thanks
You can't be scared, gotta open your mind and your third eye. (pineal gland) once that's open, it won't ever close and you'll truly experience these things.
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The only thing to fear is fear itself - meaning fear is an illusion, it's just a thought, a state of mind that is either in the past or the future. It's not the present moment.
The magic is in silence and darkness where wisdom is spoken to you. The magic is in your intention, you can create the reality you desire.
Might wanna do some basic research on chakra systems and make sure you're aligned as possible before going into a deep experience
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: mantis83]
#23809211 - 11/07/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Short answer is no.
Another answer is yes
what is this supposed to mean? It's either yes or no, not both.
Yes both.
Enlightenment is a myth Enlightening is a factual occurrence
Lot's of people have became aware of the power and became more assertive
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: mantis83]
#23809222 - 11/07/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mushrooms make you gay, seriously.
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: Morel Guy]
#23809230 - 11/07/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Short answer is no.
Another answer is yes
what is this supposed to mean? It's either yes or no, not both.
Yes both.
Enlightenment is a myth Enlightening is a factual occurrence
That was the single most idiotic thing iv'e ever heard
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Short answer is no.
Another answer is yes
what is this supposed to mean? It's either yes or no, not both.
Yes both.
Enlightenment is a myth Enlightening is a factual occurrence
That was the single most idiotic thing iv'e ever heard
So you believe a chemical is going to speed up the process of gaining an eternal consciousness?
Nobody has ever claimed to achieved enlightenment via drugs that's been accepted.......I haven't even heard of one claim that wasn't clearly mental.
Good luck with that idiotic
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: Morel Guy]
#23809400 - 11/07/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shrooms help you solve problems and the trip itself is a life changing experience.
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: sunshine]
#23809416 - 11/07/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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sunshine said: Shrooms help you solve problems and the trip itself is a life changing experience.
Ya but people think it changes your eternal consciousness or something like eternal enlightenment is possible.
That's what pushes people to take more than they can handle and complicates the shit out of life. There will be no trip that pushes you into perfect eternal bliss, as I understand.
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: Morel Guy]
#23809417 - 11/07/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I peaked on LSD.
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: sunshine]
#23809431 - 11/07/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Societies laws are against drugs, so of course it's not going to be accepted. That doesn't mean anything to an open mind tho.
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: Morel Guy]
#23809563 - 11/07/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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sunshine said: Shrooms help you solve problems and the trip itself is a life changing experience.
Ya but people think it changes your eternal consciousness or something like eternal enlightenment is possible.
That's what pushes people to take more than they can handle and complicates the shit out of life. There will be no trip that pushes you into perfect eternal bliss, as I understand.
No one in this thread said a single word about eternal enlightenment, just enlightenment. But since you mentioned that, shrooms can in fact help you understand what happens after to help you achieve eternal enlightenment if that's what you wish. No one said anything about psilocybin speeding up eternal bliss. If you don't believe in the powers of mushrooms why are you on here?
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I believe mushrooms have powers and I'm not delusional to take that to such severity so many of the quacks take it.
All chemicals have power. Some have immense power over biology.
Enlightenment as I know it is eternal. Enlightening is a fraction of that whole.
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: Morel Guy]
#23809781 - 11/07/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: I believe mushrooms have powers and I'm not delusional to take that to such severity so many of the quacks take it.
All chemicals have power. Some have immense power over biology.
Enlightenment as I know it is eternal. Enlightening is a fraction of that whole.
Enlightenment is not eternal. It can be, but It's simply a state of being.
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It's a state of being that leads to an eternal existence that no longer reincarnates.
It's an eternal state.
What we live reincarnates because we have not obtained eternal enlightenment. Destined to be reborn doing the same old crazy things, however modified they might be.
Enlightenment is freedom. But it's only in the spiritual sense/world. Enlightened people still have to deal with the same shit we do. They simply don't care.
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: Morel Guy]
#23809828 - 11/07/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I find that if your mind is in the right place beforehand, the mushrooms strip away any facade you're putting up (the false self) and reveal your true self, show you how much of an arsehole you've been and give you the perspective to avoid getting into unnecessary fights or destructive behaviour patterns.
Research a little about the false self, adaptation to threats which are no longer present and things like sophistry or fallacies. Soon they are stripped away and what's left is your true self and I can't tell you what that is
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: Morel Guy]
#23809839 - 11/07/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: It's a state of being that leads to an eternal existence that no longer reincarnates.
It's an eternal state.
What we live reincarnates because we have not obtained eternal enlightenment. Destined to be reborn doing the same old crazy things, however modified they might be.
Enlightenment is freedom. But it's only in the spiritual sense/world. Enlightened people still have to deal with the same shit we do. They simply don't care.
That's your personal interpretation of it. That is not the definition.
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What the hell do unelightened people who write definitions know about what they haven't accomplished?
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: Morel Guy]
#23809909 - 11/07/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: What the hell do unelightened people who write definitions know about what they haven't accomplished?
I have accomplished it Just not eternally I accomplish every time I meditate correctly. Obviously you haven't either. Thanks though.
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: Morel Guy]
#23809918 - 11/07/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: It's a state of being that leads to an eternal existence that no longer reincarnates.
It's an eternal state.
What we live reincarnates because we have not obtained eternal enlightenment. Destined to be reborn doing the same old crazy things, however modified they might be.
Enlightenment is freedom. But it's only in the spiritual sense/world. Enlightened people still have to deal with the same shit we do. They simply don't care.
Enlightenment is like crossing a certain level of spiritual understanding. To use an analogy it's like becoming a professional at something. Once you're a professional blank you'll always be a blank whether you practice or not. That doesn't mean you'll never forget aspects of it and have to look at a reference, it doesn't even mean you retain any of the actual information, it just means that you understand something to a certain capacity.
It doesn't mean you'll never suffer again in the sense that you will not experience pain, sadness, etc, and to say you no longer care isn't quite accurate either I would say. It's like saying a professional knows everything about their field so it no longer takes effort. That does not mean their field never expands and likewise you can always become more enlightened. Enlightenment does not stop, it's not a place and there is no end just as once you become a professional in a field you are at the top and you don't move immediately to retirement, it's a process, it's the beginning of something else. Or perhaps you can said it's the realization that there is no beginning or end. That's my view anyway.
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: krypto2000]
#23809927 - 11/07/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Go look up the thread "A true master never proclaims enlightenment" if you really wanna get deeper than what's been said, read there, because mushrooms will not just make you enlightened. Psychedelics let you ask the right questions but they sure don't give you the answer.
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I would only be satisfied with being able to access states of ecstasy at nearly every attempt. With or without outside chemicals.
There is no state more enlightening than ecstasy. It has nothing to do with MDMA.
You will not achieve a true nirvana that comes with enlightenment wih drugs. Nirvana from drugs is illusive and does not persist forever.
Nirvana cannot be disturbed. Nothing more disturbing than sobriety.
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: mantis83]
#23810031 - 11/07/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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mantis83 said: hello,
I was wondering if Its possible to achieve some kind of enlightenment through magic truffles and/or mushrooms? I've tried mushrooms a few times but never had this experience that people refer to as "ego-death". Would love to experience complete enlightenment someday.
Thanks for listening and have a good day
Yep, self awareness and appreciation of nature are mostly what you'll get if you keep good vibes in a safe environment where you won't be interrupted or at risk of being caught with illicit substances.
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: Morel Guy]
#23810211 - 11/07/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Have you read Carlos Castaneda? Journey to the IXtan talks in some good detail about what you're asking.
As far as I'm concerned, enlightenment is knowing that everything is absolutely okay, even though everything could end before you even had time to think.
I feel like most people think of enlightenment as something that will set them apart from everyone else, as if there's people hiding out just observing the rest of humanity from their enlightened pedistul. I'd like to think of it as something that brings more people together.
Shamanism in the case of Don Juan (from the book I referenced) almost seems to parallel mental illness at this point, because you literally have to erase everthing about yourself to become 'truly enlightened'
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Re: mushroom enlightenment [Re: krypto2000]
#23811104 - 11/07/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: It's a state of being that leads to an eternal existence that no longer reincarnates.
It's an eternal state.
What we live reincarnates because we have not obtained eternal enlightenment. Destined to be reborn doing the same old crazy things, however modified they might be.
Enlightenment is freedom. But it's only in the spiritual sense/world. Enlightened people still have to deal with the same shit we do. They simply don't care.
Enlightenment is like crossing a certain level of spiritual understanding. To use an analogy it's like becoming a professional at something. Once you're a professional blank you'll always be a blank whether you practice or not. That doesn't mean you'll never forget aspects of it and have to look at a reference, it doesn't even mean you retain any of the actual information, it just means that you understand something to a certain capacity.
It doesn't mean you'll never suffer again in the sense that you will not experience pain, sadness, etc, and to say you no longer care isn't quite accurate either I would say. It's like saying a professional knows everything about their field so it no longer takes effort. That does not mean their field never expands and likewise you can always become more enlightened. Enlightenment does not stop, it's not a place and there is no end just as once you become a professional in a field you are at the top and you don't move immediately to retirement, it's a process, it's the beginning of something else. Or perhaps you can said it's the realization that there is no beginning or end. That's my view anyway.

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There is no state more enlightening than ecstasy. It has nothing to do with MDMA.
Good cause i literally just plugged E for the first time and i can now say its the single weirdest thing ive done in my entire life.
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