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cheesytom1
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Planning my first trip; history of mental illness.
#23808746 - 11/07/16 06:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello shroomers. My name's Tom. 22/UK.
I planned to drive down the the Lake District next weekend to trip, but that might have fallen through.
Short question is: any advice or recommendations on where is a good, secluded place preferably around Yorkshire, UK to trip?
Longer explanation is: I'm being quite meticulous with planning this trip. I've suffered from psychosis in the past, and schizophrenia runs in my mother's side of the family (her brother). I am planning on taking 0.5g of dry shrooms (libs, eaten gradually), and dosing more throughout the trip as need be. I'm a lightweight with most substances, so this should do me good. I consider myself well-researched in psychedelic culture and safety, but not in experience.
Obviously I want to have a relatively pleasant time. My mindset is stable, I don't have any major stresses in life, and am generally well balanced. Except, I do not trust most people, and generally have a negative vibe about society. I don't think I would have a great trip at home. Besides, I wouldn't trust my housemates not to call the police or something.
I was considering watching the sun rise on the east coast (weather permitting). Sitting in the car with some music at night. But I know I'll probably want to walk around. Is there anywhere nice?
Alternatively, any wooded areas someone could recommend? The problem is, I figure I might not even be able to relax around dog walkers, thinking they're the enemy and they're gona call the cops and ruin my trip... I might not be like that, but I predict I will be. I'm very controlling and analytical - a bit hyperactive of the mind.
Any general advice, or specific location advice, would be welcome. Also, just to chat would be nice. This is a big step for me, since the psychosis, so I'm a little nervous.
Thanks, Peace.
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Edited by cheesytom1 (11/07/16 07:09 AM)
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Re: Planning my first trip; history of mental illness. [Re: cheesytom1]
#23808784 - 11/07/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have had mental crisis and have had great and not so great trips. It's more about your daily general experience. Mushrooms are hypnotic so what you have deep within becomes more conscious.
What do you want from the trip? I would drop intention other than security before hand.
-------------------- "in sterquiliniis invenitur in stercore invenitur" In filth it will be found in dung it will be found
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Re: Planning my first trip; history of mental illness. [Re: Morel Guy]
#23808801 - 11/07/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: I have had mental crisis and have had great and not so great trips. It's more about your daily general experience. Mushrooms are hypnotic so what you have deep within becomes more conscious.
What do you want from the trip? I would drop intention other than security before hand.
I'd like insight. I'd like to ask some questions. I'd like to experience all the things I've read and heard about since my psychosis so that I can relate. I'm also an avid philosopher, so the perspective change would be nice for that.
What do you mean about dropping intention over security?
-------------------- A Resource-Based Economy; beyond politics, poverty and war. 40min Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KphWsnhZ4Ag My band, System Paralysis; punk/ska/metal, free music: https://systemparalysis.bandcamp.com/album/concrete-gore
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cheesytom1
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Re: Planning my first trip; history of mental illness. [Re: cheesytom1]
#23808964 - 11/07/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm now considering Dalby Forest, this saturday (weather is alright). It's a nice place. Camped there before. And a forest locations I hear is very nice.
-------------------- A Resource-Based Economy; beyond politics, poverty and war. 40min Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KphWsnhZ4Ag My band, System Paralysis; punk/ska/metal, free music: https://systemparalysis.bandcamp.com/album/concrete-gore
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Re: Planning my first trip; history of mental illness. [Re: cheesytom1]
#23809060 - 11/07/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hit the forest. Bring a harmonica and the birds will sing along.
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Re: Planning my first trip; history of mental illness. [Re: cheesytom1]
#23809219 - 11/07/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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cheesytom1 said:
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Morel Guy said: I have had mental crisis and have had great and not so great trips. It's more about your daily general experience. Mushrooms are hypnotic so what you have deep within becomes more conscious.
What do you want from the trip? I would drop intention other than security before hand.
I'd like insight. I'd like to ask some questions. I'd like to experience all the things I've read and heard about since my psychosis so that I can relate. I'm also an avid philosopher, so the perspective change would be nice for that.
What do you mean about dropping intention over security?
What is your intention. Go for peace over insight. Lot's of thoughts on psychedelics are psychotic if you do think. Awareness is different than thought, it flows and passes. If something negative loops that's bad. Sometimes people break out of it and sometimes it breaks people.
Never know what a trip will be like.
-------------------- "in sterquiliniis invenitur in stercore invenitur" In filth it will be found in dung it will be found
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cheesytom1
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Re: Planning my first trip; history of mental illness. [Re: Morel Guy]
#23809445 - 11/07/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: What is your intention. Go for peace over insight. Lot's of thoughts on psychedelics are psychotic if you do think. Awareness is different than thought, it flows and passes. If something negative loops that's bad. Sometimes people break out of it and sometimes it breaks people.
Never know what a trip will be like.
It's insight like that which I'd like to learn. Seems to only come from tripping. I'm not too sure what I seek, to be honest. An experience. A connection to something which seems to me to have been fundamental in human evolution.
-------------------- A Resource-Based Economy; beyond politics, poverty and war. 40min Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KphWsnhZ4Ag My band, System Paralysis; punk/ska/metal, free music: https://systemparalysis.bandcamp.com/album/concrete-gore
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Re: Planning my first trip; history of mental illness. [Re: cheesytom1]
#23809552 - 11/07/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just go about having a good time safely. Try a small dose. Just enough for some body buzz and head change. Don't dive too quick and deep or ya get the bends.
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Re: Planning my first trip; history of mental illness. [Re: Morel Guy]
#23811649 - 11/08/16 04:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've suffered from psychosis in the past, and schizophrenia runs in my mother's side of the family (her brother).
Be reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeal careful man.
Start with low doses, maybe once every month or couple of months, just dabble. See how you feel in the days after.
DON'T jump into a 3-5g trip with that on your plate.
Please...
Schizophrenia IS the end of the world, in most cases.
edit - oh I see you said 0.5g trip to start with. Good idea. Good idea... do that.
Good luck, if anything starts to get weird, for instance -
feeling you're being watched all the time lack of emotional responsiveness strange thoughts / delusions about past, present or future feeling of constant urgency sudden interest in conspiracy television, radio, magazines contain secret messages for you can't organise concepts in your mind
Go straight to the Emergency dept. of your local hospital and tell them you took mushrooms with a family history of schizophrenia.
All they've got unfortunately is these shitty dopamine blockers but it will prevent the characteristic 'forest fire' of schizophrenia in the brain and you might be off them in a year, if it's not particularly severe (which it won't be if you're doing 0.5g)
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Edited by beforethedawn (11/08/16 04:15 AM)
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cheesytom1
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Re: Planning my first trip; history of mental illness. [Re: beforethedawn]
#23811681 - 11/08/16 04:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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beforethedawn said:
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I've suffered from psychosis in the past, and schizophrenia runs in my mother's side of the family (her brother).
Be reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeal careful man.
Start with low doses, maybe once every month or couple of months, just dabble. See how you feel in the days after.
DON'T jump into a 3-5g trip with that on your plate.
Please...
Schizophrenia IS the end of the world, in most cases.
edit - oh I see you said 0.5g trip to start with. Good idea. Good idea... do that.
Good luck, if anything starts to get weird, for instance -
feeling you're being watched all the time lack of emotional responsiveness strange thoughts / delusions about past, present or future feeling of constant urgency sudden interest in conspiracy television, radio, magazines contain secret messages for you can't organise concepts in your mind
Go straight to the Emergency dept. of your local hospital and tell them you took mushrooms with a family history of schizophrenia.
All they've got unfortunately is these shitty dopamine blockers but it will prevent the characteristic 'forest fire' of schizophrenia in the brain and you might be off them in a year, if it's not particularly severe (which it won't be if you're doing 0.5g)
Okay, thank you for the advice and the concern. You're very kind.
I will be safe, and I'll report back here afterwards too. I'll give myself time to cooldown before I take any more (if I take any more). I would like to be able to have these experiences, but I will be cautious - hopefully not so much that I put myself in a bad trip.
-------------------- A Resource-Based Economy; beyond politics, poverty and war. 40min Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KphWsnhZ4Ag My band, System Paralysis; punk/ska/metal, free music: https://systemparalysis.bandcamp.com/album/concrete-gore
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Re: Planning my first trip; history of mental illness. [Re: cheesytom1]
#23812280 - 11/08/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Id advise against it Have benzos on hand?
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Re: Planning my first trip; history of mental illness. [Re: ModestMouse]
#23812835 - 11/08/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: Id advise against it Have benzos on hand?
Well the thing is I've been interested in the culture and philosophy of psychedelics for years now - it's part of what actually helped me overcome my psychosis. I would like to have an experience for myself, and believe I'm ready.
I know that, eventually, I will try them... probably. It just seems inevitable to me. The world of psychedelics is just so fascinating it's something I want to give a chance.
What form of benzo would you recommend? I've read that some can have negative effects for LSD recovery.
-------------------- A Resource-Based Economy; beyond politics, poverty and war. 40min Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KphWsnhZ4Ag My band, System Paralysis; punk/ska/metal, free music: https://systemparalysis.bandcamp.com/album/concrete-gore
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Re: Planning my first trip; history of mental illness. [Re: cheesytom1]
#23812862 - 11/08/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Xanax preferably
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Re: Planning my first trip; history of mental illness. [Re: ModestMouse]
#23812967 - 11/08/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: Xanax preferably
Likely not, unfortunately. I'll have to get some shitty sleeping tablet from boots or something...
tbh, I've had horrible trips (the worst on skunk) and toughed it out. My body was having some sort of anxiety breakdown (I now associate weed with psychosis) - this was about 6 months after my illness. I'd taken a couple hits thinking it was just weed - then tripped hard. Three second memory, felt sick, all my joints hurt, felt like I couldn't breath, no control. Yeah, it was hell. So I lied perfectly still and went to sleep. The next day, I was a tired, but otherwise okay.
I figure, so long as the set and setting are good - a forest, with my girlfriend and friends; gf is trip-sitting - I'll be alright.
This is kind of something I want to conquer. I appreciate the advice, but I do respect the substance, and my own mind - a lot. I figure I need to at least try. Rather than die and never had the chance.
-------------------- A Resource-Based Economy; beyond politics, poverty and war. 40min Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KphWsnhZ4Ag My band, System Paralysis; punk/ska/metal, free music: https://systemparalysis.bandcamp.com/album/concrete-gore
Edited by cheesytom1 (11/08/16 02:20 PM)
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Re: Planning my first trip; history of mental illness. [Re: cheesytom1]
#23813016 - 11/08/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Planning my first trip; history of mental illness. [Re: Buster_Brown]
#23813285 - 11/08/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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