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Are you a meateater or vegetarian?
    #23808536 - 11/07/16 03:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Asante]
    #23808542 - 11/07/16 03:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I used to do low carb, high protein for a couple years. It is one of the best diets in terms of losing weight and keeping mental acuity I believe.

Now I'm an omnivore. But due to a change in my hormones, I prefer carbohydrates like pasta and bread over animal flesh. I abhor sweets even more than I used to though.

I still eat meat and fish, but I don't like it nearly as much as I used to. Which is funny, because protein used to be the number 1 part of my meal that I looked forward to the most.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23808544 - 11/07/16 03:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I ate a quarter sheet of LSD once and went vegan right after. I can't stomach the thought of eating animal consciousnesses, and cheese, milk, and eggs gross me out.

I'm vegan but I mostly live on fruit.  I have a complicated relationship with food, because I never feel hungry unless I'm really high, but then I don't want to kill my buzz. :shrug:


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Asante]
    #23808548 - 11/07/16 03:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Omnivore here.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Asante]
    #23808558 - 11/07/16 04:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23808562 - 11/07/16 04:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I ate a quarter sheet of LSD once and went vegan right after. I can't stomach the thought of eating animal consciousnesses, and cheese, milk, and eggs gross me out.

I'm vegan but I mostly live on fruit.  I have a complicated relationship with food, because I never feel hungry unless I'm really high, but then I don't want to kill my buzz. :shrug:





I have had similar experience a couple of times with 20 100ug hits, I went through a period where I wouldn't touch animal anything, but once I got sober for a bit because of having to get clean from heroin, I realized my body needed what was in animal products.  I would eat eggs, meat, or use butter, and instantly feel a tickling feeling in my brain, and then my genitals would elongate, and I would get horny, maybe it was hormones doing what they do.  I never got that feeling from plant protein, so think I needed what was in the animal products, just in moderation, I eat animal stuff 3 times a week, maybe more, sometimes it's just cheaper to buy some meat and veggies and a bag of brown rice, you can save a lot of money cooking with those three things.  Also, gotta have an egg with your ramen, I don't mean the cheap prepackaged ramen, but the good ramen, and egg thrown on top of that is amazing, or even a raw egg thrown in it, so fucking good.

I still prefer hemp protein, or pea protein, but I do eat white meat about three times a week.  I like food, but I am like you, I usually only get hungry when I take certain substances, otherwise I forget to eat for the whole day unless I have worked out.  I am the type of person that will drink coffee in the morning, then tea or water the rest of the day, and forget to eat until later at night, which is not healthy for metabolism.

If I am with people I am more apt to eat properly though, you know 3 times a day type thing.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Lucis]
    #23808580 - 11/07/16 04:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

definitely omnimore.

But sometimes i go vegetarian with my meals to save money since meat is expensive (as it should be for those poor, delicious animals that died for us).

i like a variety of foods, chinese, american, mexican, japanese, italian, thai, mediterrian (sp?), some indian, u get the idea.

Most dishes from around the world have meat, and they know how to cook it well.

I typically eat more meat in the summer with BBQs going and all.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23808586 - 11/07/16 04:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Omnivore here. Although I wish I would not desire meat. No can do.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: ZacksJourney] * 1
    #23808606 - 11/07/16 04:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Apparently you can be strong and vegetarian since there's been a veggie Mr Universe:



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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Asante]
    #23808616 - 11/07/16 05:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Apparently you can be strong and vegetarian since there's been a veggie Mr Universe:





It's possible, the weightlifter that was on the USA Olympic team this year was vegan. His name was Kendrick Farris, and I think he deadlifts like 800lbs or something.

A lot of it is genetics though, and the thing is this guy has only been vegan for 2 years, not his whole life.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23808628 - 11/07/16 05:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How about vegan?



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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: ZacksJourney] * 1
    #23808636 - 11/07/16 05:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23808661 - 11/07/16 05:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I know him. It's tofu.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23808663 - 11/07/16 05:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

haha, the vegan has been found :confused:


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: ZacksJourney]
    #23808698 - 11/07/16 06:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I know him. It's tofu.




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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23808710 - 11/07/16 06:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I shoot 70-90% of my own meat. Depending on how well I do in a hunting season. Two turkeys a year15-25 lbs. About 30 squirrels. About 10-20 lbs. Same with rabbits. Small gamebirds give me about another10-20 lbs of meat. Fish accounts for up to about 30 lbs. Again depending on season, anywhere from 50-200 lbs of deer meat. ate beef for the first time in a while the other day. I also grow 50-80% of mu own vegetables for the year, grown all organic, meat raised wild. The 30% or so off food I dont shoot or grow is either things I can't shoot or grow here, or bought from an organic food store. Or whenever I go to a returaunt.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: whitelights]
    #23808767 - 11/07/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I also grow 50-80% of mu own vegetables for the year, grown all organic,


or bought from an organic food store.





organic is a marketing term that really means nothing. what you grow, you know what
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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Asante]
    #23808870 - 11/07/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I eat both with a ratio of about 5:1 for vegetables : meat.

I'm find of chicken but I don't really class it as meat when compared to beef.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Electric Wizard21]
    #23808891 - 11/07/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

both, and fungi/bacteria/insects/anything else that's edible and tasty.


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Bacteria is so delicious :lol:


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23809305 - 11/07/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I ate a quarter sheet of LSD once and went vegan right after. I can't stomach the thought of eating animal consciousnesses, and cheese, milk, and eggs gross me out.

I'm vegan but I mostly live on fruit.  I have a complicated relationship with food, because I never feel hungry unless I'm really high, but then I don't want to kill my buzz. :shrug:




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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: sanchothestoner] * 1
    #23809350 - 11/07/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm a veggie, but I ain't to vegan, I value ice cream too much for that noise.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: whitelights]
    #23809414 - 11/07/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I shoot 70-90% of my own meat. Depending on how well I do in a hunting season. Two turkeys a year15-25 lbs. About 30 squirrels. About 10-20 lbs. Same with rabbits. Small gamebirds give me about another10-20 lbs of meat. Fish accounts for up to about 30 lbs. Again depending on season, anywhere from 50-200 lbs of deer meat. ate beef for the first time in a while the other day. I also grow 50-80% of mu own vegetables for the year, grown all organic, meat raised wild. The 30% or so off food I dont shoot or grow is either things I can't shoot or grow here, or bought from an organic food store. Or whenever I go to a returaunt.



That's the way to live. I hunt, but not enough anymore. Work, family, and the place I live nowadays keep me away from it.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Asante]
    #23809437 - 11/07/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

omnivore, though I am not big on carbs, I still eat em. can't do without meat though too tasty, though I often refrain from eating any for a little while after a trip


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #23809444 - 11/07/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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omnivore, though I am not big on carbs, I still eat em. can't do without meat though too tasty, though I often refrain from eating any for a little while after a trip



Funny that always happens to me. Meat is incredibly repulsive after tripping and all i want to eat are fruits n stuff and I'm by no means a new age hippie freak.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23809654 - 11/07/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm an accidental vegetarian.

Randomly I think about what I have eaten on any given week and there's rarely any meat in there. Beans are my go to thing. I haven't had chicken or pork in the longest time. Just had 2 tiny slices of beef today at the restaurant actually. After like 3 months without it


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    #23809689 - 11/07/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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omnivore, though I am not big on carbs, I still eat em. can't do without meat though too tasty, though I often refrain from eating any for a little while after a trip



Funny that always happens to me. Meat is incredibly repulsive after tripping and all i want to eat are fruits n stuff and I'm by no means a new age hippie freak.




it is weird, I find psychedelics temporarily turn me into a new agey hippie type, albeit with a slightly more logical picture of the workings of the cosmos, but on an aesthetic level, total hippie for like 1-2 weeks following a trip :shrug:


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Electric Wizard21]
    #23810081 - 11/07/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I eat both with a ratio of about 5:1 for vegetables : meat.

I'm find of chicken but I don't really class it as meat when compared to beef.




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    #23810088 - 11/07/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

And why is that?


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: twighead]
    #23810094 - 11/07/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Currently eating #4 & #5 goats from our farm. 

I have eaten fresh killed deer stew from road kill at a gathering in Momtana.  No problems eating a pain in the ass animal here!

Goats are a pain!

Cleaning actually tons of shot over the years makes a goat chop or steak marinated in teriyaki god damn fantastic!


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: twighead]
    #23810096 - 11/07/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I am a vegetarian meateater.


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The goats only are named by their numbers?

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    #23810125 - 11/07/16 04:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The goats only are named by their numbers?

Oh no!!

Tragic!  :frightening:




Actually I ate curly sue, a male and a female I cannot remeber their name.  They became chili, teriyaki chops and steak, cheeseburgers, tacos and lastly a turd or 20.

The two girls were sick and had to be culled.  Either put the down and send the carcass off to be fertilizer or eat them.  The first male was healthy and no body wanted to buy him.  The most recent castrated males were 4H projects born on our farm.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23810168 - 11/07/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I hope I become teriyaki chops when iiiii die :cophappy:


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    #23810177 - 11/07/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I hope I become teriyaki chops when iiiii die :cophappy:




Mm m tasty!

I wouldn't mind people I love eating me.  But it's taboo and illegal.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23810187 - 11/07/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I remember that guy making the rounds on Reddit, the stadium that he was at sells vegan dogs.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23810200 - 11/07/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Bacteria is so delicious :lol:




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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Patlal]
    #23810208 - 11/07/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm an accidental vegetarian.

Randomly I think about what I have eaten on any given week and there's rarely any meat in there. Beans are my go to thing. I haven't had chicken or pork in the longest time. Just had 2 tiny slices of beef today at the restaurant actually. After like 3 months without it




"accidental vegetarian" :lol:

Oh man, thats rich.

In that case, u can call me an accidental meat eater :wink:

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    #23810244 - 11/07/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm an accidental vegetarian.

Randomly I think about what I have eaten on any given week and there's rarely any meat in there. Beans are my go to thing. I haven't had chicken or pork in the longest time. Just had 2 tiny slices of beef today at the restaurant actually. After like 3 months without it




"accidental vegetarian" :lol:

Oh man, thats rich.

In that case, u can call me an accidental meat eater :wink:

I know, just saying "bacteria" sounds weird.




Seriously. I can just go on for days and days without craving meat so I just eat veggies, beans pasta, rice, etc. It don't try, it just happens. I don't even think about it.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Patlal]
    #23810250 - 11/07/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yah, i could see that.

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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Patlal]
    #23810575 - 11/07/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Seriously. I can just go on for days and days without craving meat so I just eat veggies, beans pasta, rice, etc. It don't try, it just happens. I don't even think about it.





I can be like that sometimes, but if I start to crave something, I figure that's my body telling me I need something which is in that food.  So I often eat non-meat sources of protein, and then every so often I eat meat/eggs when I crave them.  I am not much for supplements though, would rather get what I can from food sources. 

I found a grain called Chenopodium pallidicaule (Kaniwa), which is really good for you for a number of reasons, and if you haven't had a lot of red meat in your diet, provides a good source of iron to fill the void.


My recent problem is when it gets cold here, having to switch from a high carb diet, to a low carb diet, and getting constipated, shits hell man, every year this happens to me.  I know you can take fiber supplements, and eat proper veggies which are higher in the proper type of fiber (soluble vs. insoluble), but shit gets me every year, no pun intended.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23810781 - 11/07/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I used to do low carb, high protein for a couple years. It is one of the best diets in terms of losing weight and keeping mental acuity I believe.

Now I'm an omnivore. But due to a change in my hormones, I prefer carbohydrates like pasta and bread over animal flesh. I abhor sweets even more than I used to though.

I still eat meat and fish, but I don't like it nearly as much as I used to. Which is funny, because protein used to be the number 1 part of my meal that I looked forward to the most.



see I just don't get this. I tried low carb high protein at differnet points in my life. It just makes me feel so clogged up and constipated. maybe its just genetics


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Lucis]
    #23810787 - 11/07/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Seriously. I can just go on for days and days without craving meat so I just eat veggies, beans pasta, rice, etc. It don't try, it just happens. I don't even think about it.





I can be like that sometimes, but if I start to crave something, I figure that's my body telling me I need something which is in that food.  So I often eat non-meat sources of protein, and then every so often I eat meat/eggs when I crave them.  I am not much for supplements though, would rather get what I can from food sources. 

I found a grain called Chenopodium pallidicaule (Kaniwa), which is really good for you for a number of reasons, and if you haven't had a lot of red meat in your diet, provides a good source of iron to fill the void.


My recent problem is when it gets cold here, having to switch from a high carb diet, to a low carb diet, and getting constipated, shits hell man, every year this happens to me.  I know you can take fiber supplements, and eat proper veggies which are higher in the proper type of fiber (soluble vs. insoluble), but shit gets me every year, no pun intended.



this is all me. I feel cravings are your bodies way of telling you what you need. so when I eat meat its due to cravings. but thats pretty rare. Mostly vegan now and thats working


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: topdog82]
    #23810831 - 11/07/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I prefer meat and grains and very little veggies.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23810942 - 11/07/16 08:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I could happily live on pure animal flesh and eggs for the rest of my days. I only eat carbs if my activity level calls for them.

I'll probably get bowel cancer with that methodology, considering the shit they pump into the meat we get sold, but fuck it, I'd rather live the way I want to live than to be sensible about it. I've seen too many sensible people die to consider that path worth following.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23810969 - 11/07/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I remember that guy making the rounds on Reddit, the stadium that he was at sells vegan dogs.





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    #23811037 - 11/07/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

meateater but lately I've been enjoying radishes they have quite the peppery taste to them


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: topdog82]
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I used to do low carb, high protein for a couple years. It is one of the best diets in terms of losing weight and keeping mental acuity I believe.

Now I'm an omnivore. But due to a change in my hormones, I prefer carbohydrates like pasta and bread over animal flesh. I abhor sweets even more than I used to though.

I still eat meat and fish, but I don't like it nearly as much as I used to. Which is funny, because protein used to be the number 1 part of my meal that I looked forward to the most.



see I just don't get this. I tried low carb high protein at differnet points in my life. It just makes me feel so clogged up and constipated. maybe its just genetics




Constipated? How? Low carb high protein usually means you're eating lots of salads and vegetables.


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    #23813551 - 11/08/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I ate a quarter sheet of LSD once and went vegan right after.




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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23814138 - 11/08/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I used to do low carb, high protein for a couple years. It is one of the best diets in terms of losing weight and keeping mental acuity I believe.

Now I'm an omnivore. But due to a change in my hormones, I prefer carbohydrates like pasta and bread over animal flesh. I abhor sweets even more than I used to though.

I still eat meat and fish, but I don't like it nearly as much as I used to. Which is funny, because protein used to be the number 1 part of my meal that I looked forward to the most.



see I just don't get this. I tried low carb high protein at differnet points in my life. It just makes me feel so clogged up and constipated. maybe its just genetics




Constipated? How? Low carb high protein usually means you're eating lots of salads and vegetables.



ya but even then. Getting most of my calories from protein my body doesn't like it. Like I said. Its prolly genetics. My buddy pretty much exclusively eats steak, butter, and coconut oil/cream. tons of green veggies. But if it works, it works


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: topdog82]
    #23814534 - 11/08/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It probably is genetic. I have hypoglycemia and hypothyroidism and low blood pressure. So I'm constantly craving salty foods, and I'm not supposed to be even simplex carbs even. There's probably a physical reason I constantly crave meat and protein as my main meal.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Crystal G]
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It probably is genetic. I have hypoglycemia and hypothyroidism and low blood pressure. So I'm constantly craving salty foods, and I'm not supposed to be even simplex carbs even. There's probably a physical reason I constantly crave meat and protein as my main meal.



As i said earlier in the thread, I am a firm believer that the whole foods that your body craves are a sign of what your body needs. I strongly am against a vegatarian diet from an ethics standpoint and support it from a "what works for your body" standpoint
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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: topdog82] * 1
    #23814563 - 11/08/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Why against vegetarianism for ethics? I always thought of vegetarianism as the more ethical choice.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23814574 - 11/08/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I love meat, but I usually try to save it for my dinner/evening meal.


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    #23814589 - 11/08/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why against vegetarianism for ethics? I always thought of vegetarianism as the more ethical choice.



Likewise. That seems a baffling perspective to me. Some very convincing arguments for vegetarianism below, that have caused me to really look to try it, but my body doesn't respond well to the diet.

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Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages.
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By eating meat we share the responsibility of climate change, the destruction of our forests, and the poisoning of our air and water. The simple act of becoming a vegetarian will make a difference in the health of our planet.

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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23814708 - 11/08/16 11:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think much of health is mind, body, soul type thing, meaning don't get into fads you see on TV or in magazines, your body will tell you if what you're consuming is proper or not.  I think fads just increase your chances of being fearful of things, you think if you eat to much red meat you're going to die of colon cancer, so then you fret about eating red meat, and this creates anxiety and stress, which is even worse for you, it's a vicious cycle.

We're just consumers in the eyes of the people creating these fads, so really all we represent is money to them, they don't care about us, but it's up to us to feel ourselves out, and understand that each persons body is different (alkaline/acidic) and each person needs different things to make it work properly.  Know thyself.


I went vegan a couple years ago, and literally wasted away, I was consuming massive amounts of calories daily, lots of fats from raw seeds/nuts, hemp/pea protein, had a ton of energy, but I felt like it was screwing my hormones up.  I read that having healthy fats in my diet was supposed to help regulate such things, but I guess not, my sex drive was super low, but it's never been through the roof to begin with.

When I eat meat/eggs or use butter 3-4 times a week, usually at night, I feel a huge rush in my head, which feels like I am being tickled there, which is strange, my facial hair will grow much faster too, so do my nails, and my muscles appear larger, and my sex drive goes up, so am thinking there something I need from those sources of food which I wasn't getting from a vegan diet, and trust me I tried a ton of different things which were vegan to see if I got the same feeling those animal sources gave me.

If one looks at our teeth, we're evolved to eat plants and animals, at least I read something about that years ago.  So I think one should consume animal products sparingly, and eat lots of nuts, seeds, healthy grains, veggies, and fruits.

Another thing, there are so many animal products I want to try, I remember eating ox tail with a Rasta when I lived in Miami, it was really good, I wonder what other interesting meats from other cultures are out there to try.

I want to experience new things in all ways of life, new music, new foods, new wines, new people, new beliefs, I am an explorer, and never want to stop exploring this reality and what it has to offer.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Lucis] * 1
    #23814743 - 11/09/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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When I eat meat/eggs or use butter 3-4 times a week, usually at night, I feel a huge rush in my head, which feels like I am being tickled there, which is strange, my facial hair will grow much faster too, so do my nails, and my muscles appear larger, and my sex drive goes up



I get this too, apart from the head rush bit. When I eat a lot of salmon, as I usually always do (2-3 times a day) I can even feel a boost in my memory and cognitive functioning.

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I want to experience new things in all ways of life, new music, new foods, new wines, new people, new beliefs, I am an explorer, and never want to stop exploring this reality and what it has to offer.



You and me both brother. That paradigm is basically what I've spent half my life living, and I've no intention of stopping. Everything is just so fucking good!!

It can be pretty easy to get stuck in a rut sometimes though; I guess we all get that from time to time, and it can wear you down. I can't see a life of adventure ever wearing me down though. Nor have I ever heard anyone say that it does. So few seem to really live it though.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23814788 - 11/09/16 12:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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When I eat a lot of salmon, as I usually always do (2-3 times a day) I can even feel a boost in my memory and cognitive functioning.







Do you take omegas?  Fish oil, krill oil, they're good for your memory and cognitive functioning.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Lucis]
    #23814828 - 11/09/16 12:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No, no need when I'm eating this much salmon. I take pretty hardcore multivitamins though, cause I eat near fuck all vegetables. Not that they're a great substitute, but as has been said a few times in this thread, I've spent years trying and testing what works best for my body, and it's definitely this. Oats, fruit and eggs in the morning, and then pure fat and protein for the next 4-5 meals.

Unless I need tons of strength and endurance, then I hit the starchy carbs like sweet potato and wholewheat pasta pretty hard. I gain a lot of size due to muscle memory (I once weighed 1/4 again of what I do now) eating that way, but I'm way past working out for the sake of muscle growth. Carrying the extra bulk just makes me feel like I'm putting strain on my my heart and leaves me slow, if strong...


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Lucis]
    #23814830 - 11/09/16 01:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I eat fish and seafood more than any other type of meat, so I don't need omegas. It's better for you to get your nutrients straight from the food source instead of swallowing pills.


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23815859 - 11/09/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Why against vegetarianism for ethics? I always thought of vegetarianism as the more ethical choice.



I mean I feel that (assuming you accept reincarnation as a concept) then you should eat the best quality food you can as a human life is a rare one. If you believe that when we die, we have no soul and it just ends there, then this human life is still very valuable.

To me, one should eat the diet that suits them. THEN gear that towards making it ethical as possible. You eat ketogenic? cool just go for grass fed butter and beef. vegan works for you? cool

My gripe with vegetarianism and how it is presented in the spiritual community is that they often make you feel guilty etc if it doesn't work for you. vegan/vegatarian/pescatarian works amazing for me. but it has made a few people sick. And yes, I mean a well supplemented and well rounded vegan diet. with b12, good fats, and vitamin d3. And the irony is I am pretty much a pescatarian. so I am not one of those anti-vegatarian meatheads

https://www.amazon.com/Meat-Fix-Lifetime-Healthy-Living/dp/1849541396

but books like that are one anecdote in an ocean of anecdotes that show that vegan diets don't work for everyone. I think the user shroomism said he felt sick on a vegatarian diet. Moonshoe said he couldn't build muscle mass. the list goes on. Heme iron and protein, b vitamins and a few others are better obtained from meat


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Re: Are you a meateater or vegetarian? [Re: topdog82]
    #23815874 - 11/09/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't eat meat products.  I don't care what others eat, I'm just happy when there's a good vegetarian option at a restaurant.


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    #23816065 - 11/09/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I like veggie burgers.  But there is no way vegetarians are getting 50 grams of protein everyday and remaining under 2500 calories for males, 2000 calories for females.

I have a family member trying a vegan diet to lose weight.  Not so sure that's gonna work for him.  It's just as easy to over eat vegetarian or vegan.  In fact I find it easier to over eat because we crave protein.  I lost 90 pounds eating goat!  Almost 24 grams protein for 122 calories.  Only thing as good or better is a sea food diet and not fried.


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    #23816326 - 11/09/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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But there is no way vegetarians are getting 50 grams of protein everyday and remaining under 2500 calories for males, 2000 calories for females.





I buy these in single serve packets because I am lazy, one packet contains 20grms of protein and 100 or 120 calories per packet, I think the chocolate has 120 calories per packet, and the vanilla 100, mix with vanilla rice milk.  They don't taste like butthole, the vanilla taste smoother than the chocolate.  I am usually a chocolate fan, but for these the vanilla is better tasting. 

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    #23816489 - 11/09/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.apredatorymind.com/Health_advice_from_Tesla.html

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    Nikola Tesla maintained an exacting regimen of specific foods and very little sleep. Tea and coffee were evils while alcohol was the elixir of life.

    Meat is another food which he never touches, Dr. Tesla explained. Two quarts of milk a day provide him with all the proteins and calories he needs to remain alive, he said. Although as a rule he does not retire until 5:30 o'clock every morning, he gets up about 10 A. M. and feels full of energy.

    Between sips of the warm milk, he eyed the newspaper folk with their Scotch and sodas and confided that if he had not given up drinking alcohol with the enactment of Prohibition he would live to be 150 years old.

    "As it is, I believe my abstinence from alcohol during the latter part of my life has lopped off fifteen years from my life, and now I expect to live only 135 years," he remarked, "Alcohol is the elixir of life, but when this country passed the Prohibition Law I felt that as a patriotic American I should stop drinking whisky. I have not touched it since."
    —Tesla, 80, Reveals New Power Device. Says His Wireless Invention Will Gird the Earth With Energy for Industry. New York Times. July 11, 1936.

    In another interview, Tesla expanded on his vegetarian diet, described even more stringent sleep requirements and praised the virtues of taking an electrical bath.
 
    His diet is simple. He lives chiefly on vegetables, cereals and milk. The menu includes onions, spinach, celery, carrots, lettuce, with potatoes occasionally. Whites of eggs and milk complete the diet. There is no meat on his vegetable plate. He never smokes or tastes tea, coffee, alcoholic beverages or any other stimulant.
 
    "I sleep about one and one-half hours a night," the inventor says. "I think that is enough for any man. When I was young I needed more sleep. But age doesn't require so much. There are so many things to do I do not want to spend time sleeping needlessly. In my family all were poor sleepers. Time spent in sleep is lost time, we always felt."
 
    "But what is giving me more fun than anything I have done for a long, long time," Dr. Tesla explains, "is an electric bath which I hope to have ready for general use very soon.
 
    "It doesn't require much room. There is a platform on which the person stands. He turns on the current. Instantly all foreign material such as dust, dandruff, scales on the skin and microbes is thrown off from the body. The nerves, too, are exhilarated and strengthened. The 'bath' is excellent for medical as well as for cleaning purposes.
    —Dr. Tesla Visions the End of Aircraft in War. Every Week Magazine, Oct. 21, 1934.

    Chewing gum and tea were by far the greatest villains.

    It is in striking contrast in its medicinal and dietetic value to all other stimulants which, without exception, are injurious. Even smoking, snuffing or chewing tobacco will eventually impair the health, though not quite so much as chewing gum, which, by exhaustion of the salivary glands, puts many a foolish victim into an early grave.
 
    But by far the greatest number of victims are claimed by tea and coffee. Dr. Alexander Haig, foremost authority on uric acid and founder of his famous diet, says of the former: "Tea drinking is just like drug taking, in fact, and has just as terrible and fatal results."
 
    The truth about alcohol is that it acts as a caustic and a solvent. In small quantities it cleans and sterilizes the alimentary channels; thereby preventing infections, and proves a beneficial stimulant to thought, speech and physical exertion.
    — Chewing Gum More Fatal Than Rum, Says Tesla. New York World Telegram, Aug. 10, 1932

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    I'll leave the last words to those in Tesla's autobiography. In it, he speaks of the physiological effects of these demons.

    [Coffee and tea] These delicious beverages superexcite and gradually exhaust the fine fibers of the brain. They also interfere seriously with arterial circulation and should be enjoyed all the more sparingly as their deleterious effects are slow and imperceptible. Tobacco, on the other hand, is conducive to easy and pleasant thinking and detracts from the intensity and concentration necessary to all original and vigorous effort of the intellect.
 
    Chewing gum is helpful for a short while but soon drains the glandular system and inflicts irreparable damage, not to speak of the revulsion it creates.
    —My Inventions, The Autobiography of Nikola Tesla, compiled by Ben Johnston, Experimenter Publishing Company, Inc., copyright 1919




I have a lot of respect for Mr Tesla, but, reading what he had to say on the matters of health, I realise it's a subject no one really knows much about. Some are blessed with it, others are not.

And people like to do all sorts of things to feel righteous, and that's fine to, it's a good, exhilarating feeling. But so easily they can get arrogant about it.

There's times I'm eating one one ingredient on it's own to truely appreciate it. I've had the same pleasure from say, eating a grape, as I have minced beef, fried and on its own. I have had fond thoughts of that cow, and how it now lives on in me, just as those grapes do, and the bacteria that exists upon every surface, and not to mention yeast and other microbes that lead to natural fermentation, such as the ancient sourbeers, popular in Belgium, or pungent cheese.

Or today, eating brocoli in a sweet-ish mustard gravy that had been steamed, and just how very nice it was. Especially with some local pork.

A few years ago now, I conducted a private ceremony to mark what I felt was a significant period of time for myself. I went to a very special place, smoked salvia (which I have always felt was best on my own) and settled in for what turned out to be a very plesant ride, despite the biting cold wind at the time. As I drove back I wasn't fully with it, but fortunatly it was the dead of night, and I didn't meet a soul on the journey back home. When I got back, and as I drank a glass of water. I looked at the water, staring for a good long while, and I asked myself "At what point does this water become part of me, and when does it stop being part of me?" And I have had difficulty in finding a succinct answer not just to that, but to all the food, all the life, that has gone into me, and come out of me.



This image sums up a lot of how I felt about life, not just in the chemical process where food is ingested, excreted, and the soil used to grow new life, but in how thoughts, ideas, a smile, a feeling, money, are exchanged and flip from one toroid to another. Maybe some of thoise toroids merge as their bond becomes strong, not just with two humans loving one another, but an animal that is a pet, or a creature that is eaten. Likewise, there's bonds like that, strong ones, so say, fruit trees or bushes, if, like me, you really dig apples and melons.

It's something I don't think I'll ever have a definitive answer on, and that would be rather boring. Because when I have definite answers I feel no more curiosity on that subject.


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