|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
WhyDidiDoThis
Bay Area Mushroom Collector


Registered: 11/26/14
Posts: 3,338
Last seen: 6 years, 1 month
|
Hunting Psilocybes.. too much?
#23808509 - 11/07/16 02:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
How much is too much? Why do you want so much or why leave so much? How do you guys feel about a really large harvest?
There is a sense of greed in the act.
|
RiverDweller1



Registered: 03/05/12
Posts: 4,347
|
Re: Hunting Psilocybes.. too much? [Re: WhyDidiDoThis] 2
#23808707 - 11/07/16 06:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
I'm curious what brings you here with these questions?
I'm also curious about your choice of wording, mainly the word "greed". If all the apples fall off a tree and you pick up every one, is it greed or is it making the most of what is available?
|
Anglerfish
hearing things



Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 18,646
Loc: Norvegr
Last seen: 7 hours, 27 minutes
|
|
Quote:
RiverDweller1 said: making the most of what is available
--------------------
★★★★★
|
DavidReishi
Mediocrity Extraordinaire


Registered: 10/07/15
Posts: 1,333
|
|
Losing sleep over other people's finds is definitely not the way to go.
-------------------- Species found in the Bay area: P. allenii, P. cyanescens, P. ovoideocystidiata, P. stuntzii, P. azurescens
|
WhyDidiDoThis
Bay Area Mushroom Collector


Registered: 11/26/14
Posts: 3,338
Last seen: 6 years, 1 month
|
Re: Hunting Psilocybes.. too much? [Re: DavidReishi]
#23810326 - 11/07/16 05:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Relax David pal.
I'm way outta the bay and seem to be the only one hunting the foothills.
Anyways Riverdavid I ask for a few reasons.
It's mainly probably all delusion.. But I can't escape the fact of exterior forces.
Anyways long before consuming mushrooms I was reading an old guide from the 70's on mushrooms. The author goes on to voice his opinion and experience from the people he has met in Mexico. That, a true medicine man would not take more than is needed.
In the western world we are all so consumed with obtaining and possessing properties even people. How many mushrooms do I need? I'm literally nearing a thousand between Allenii and Cyans.
Way more than I could ever use.
Which leads me to the next bit of my expression.
In science mushrooms are currently debated on being a conscious entity.unlike a tree or Bush. For 1- the cells are those of an animal. 2- consciousness is defined as anything that can make a decision. Mushrooms *choose* the most ideal spot to fruit within their complex myclieum system.
So with that all said...
I feed a house full of people my finds. I did not indulge the whole day of harvesting. But I ended up tripping. Pretty hard too considering I was sober. The night comes to an end.
I lay down in the downstairs room with my gf and the dehydrator running.
Within verge of falling asleep I hear whispering voices. No more running dehydrator. There was a mocking laugh. Then followed "more,more,more"
Not nice at all.
Few days later I microdose before my hunt. I like where I was. Not intoxicated.
But ended up getting sad.
Long story not any longer, the mushrooms are mad at me. Call me crazy but I have enough evidence to suggest that the mushrooms have a malevolent connection to some weird DMT plain of existence for hoarding.
I know It's all in my head. Bullshit.
But it doesn't explain why Not 1 of the 6 people who have had these pickings have enjoyed them.
It wasn't that they weren't potent. It just wasn't "nice" per se.
|
Sirtalis



Registered: 10/05/16
Posts: 409
|
|
There's a good point to this thread. Taking what is only needed.
After finding multiple patches I have come to the conclusion that if no one else picks them, they will rot and no one will be able to enjoy the gifts mushrooms give.
To counteract from a biological standpoint, why not spread the species around more? Grow out some mycelium and spread it to woodchips. Give back to the mushrooms and you will feel better about taking. A symbiotic relationship.
|
tnj8228
pick,smoke,pick,smoke


Registered: 11/08/13
Posts: 153
Loc: pnw fungi land
Last seen: 3 months, 2 days
|
Re: Hunting Psilocybes.. too much? [Re: Sirtalis]
#23813866 - 11/08/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
that got weird quick lol
-------------------- Hunt, photo, spore print, keep on keeping on.
|
SmilingPolitely
Driftwood


Registered: 12/13/15
Posts: 89
Loc: Tromaville
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
|
Re: Hunting Psilocybes.. too much? [Re: Sirtalis]
#23813897 - 11/08/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sirtalis said: There's a good point to this thread. Taking what is only needed.
After finding multiple patches I have come to the conclusion that if no one else picks them, they will rot and no one will be able to enjoy the gifts mushrooms give.
To counteract from a biological standpoint, why not spread the species around more? Grow out some mycelium and spread it to woodchips. Give back to the mushrooms and you will feel better about taking. A symbiotic relationship.
all of this and more so.
|
Anglerfish
hearing things



Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 18,646
Loc: Norvegr
Last seen: 7 hours, 27 minutes
|
|
Quote:
WhyDidiDoThis said: not take more than is needed.
Being left with dried liberty caps from years back, I have a feeling what is too much.
But then again, coming over a monster patch makes it really hard not to pick a more than decent amount of fruits. I'm not sure if I would amount it all to greed, though. The thrill of the hunt is very strong upon me, and I sort of feel I'm not only speaking for myself here, this being the mushroom hunting forum and all...
But I never clean out a patch. As a basic rule, I always leave the young immature ones and the old saggy soggy ones behind to do their job.
--------------------
★★★★★
|
WhyDidiDoThis
Bay Area Mushroom Collector


Registered: 11/26/14
Posts: 3,338
Last seen: 6 years, 1 month
|
Re: Hunting Psilocybes.. too much? [Re: Anglerfish]
#23816276 - 11/09/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
So through further pondering, I've come to conclusion i have to spread as much as i take.
These arent apples falling from a tree too rot. These are advanced organisms in terms of survival. hundreds of thousands maybe millions years old.
The fruit bodies of mushrooms are connected to myceilum which is essentially nerve tissue. electrical synapses.
Now no mushroom can communicate, run, or even get up and go... but that doesn't mean they cant feel. Or have their own ways and systems of thinking. Consciousness. My dog has one. So do i. Very different yet the same consciousness. Now fungi arent very different in that aspect.
Some of the thoughts running through my mind durng harvest consist of "Woah there is alot" "Is there any more?" Better check here here and here." "Leave all the growing ones. take the matures." "get them all when they are mature." "Damn i got alot"
So on. The thril of the hunt. I think ive been hunting for the wrong reason.
Now i have to learn to make spawn nd start planting chunks of Myc. Cause. I been killing a survivor.
Hah
Idk .
Not losing sleep over it.
Just cant eat mushrooms for now.
They are "mad". haha
|
Anglerfish
hearing things



Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 18,646
Loc: Norvegr
Last seen: 7 hours, 27 minutes
|
Re: Hunting Psilocybes.. too much? [Re: WhyDidiDoThis] 1
#23816328 - 11/09/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
WhyDidiDoThis said: Now no mushroom can communicate
Well, in a sense some do in the form of mycorrhizal relationships. Although they send and receive nutrients, not questions or commands.
--------------------
★★★★★
|
openmind
curious


Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 13,866
|
|
Quote:
WhyDidiDoThis said: How much is too much? Why do you want so much or why leave so much? How do you guys feel about a really large harvest?
There is a sense of greed in the act.
Hmm, not sure I feel that there's greed when harvesting a massive patch, but I can understand where you're coming from.
Last year I harvested no more than 2/3rds of what my patches were producing. Part of the reason I didn't take it all is because my bags were already full to the brim each time before I could finish , and/or I start to feel a bit anxious & paranoid when sitting around harvesting one spot for too long. I do usually leave a portion of the fruits behind to do their thing though. When I go to harvest one of my patches I don't go in with intentions of clearing out the patch of every fruit, I basically get my bag filled and dip out.
But part of me does hate knowing there's a bunch of gorgeous fat immaculate fruits that are going to rot back into the earth if they're not picked, but I let this happen a few times towards the end of last season when I already had a sufficient amount to last me the year.
I also hand out & gift a portion of my harvest of cyans & allenii to people....I gifted at least a couple ounces or more this summer alone to random folks I cross paths with at festivals, that's not counting all the mushrooms I've shared with friends over the past year. I've also started to spread and plant the mycellium in different natural habitats around my area, basically introducing them into areas/habitats where they were never found before (I don't live on the coast, I'm in central california and cyans/allenii aren't common out here).
I just want enough to last me through the year, enough to share with friends, enough to gift to people at festivals/gatherings, and a little extra in case next years harvest isn't as great. Around 1/2 pound harvest is what I'd be happy with for the year. I like to be able to give away and hand out handfuls of the things, and brew up large batches of tea, with out ever worrying about running out of fungus before next years harvest.
I certainly do feel a bit of a "fever", like gold fever, when it comes to harvesting & finding actives though .
-OM
.
--------------------
|
LiberT
NaN


Registered: 07/10/15
Posts: 87
Loc: Northumberland, UK
|
Re: Hunting Psilocybes.. too much? [Re: Anglerfish]
#23816670 - 11/09/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Interesting thread.
I think the apples from a tree analogy is a good fit. As in apples, the fruit body is the means of dissemination, and as long as you carry your harvest in a suitably ventilated container could it not be that you are actually performing a service?
And, if you look at it from a natural order point of view, would you judge a lion for gorging itself on impala before the change of season when a meal may become hard to come by?
If you felt really bad about gorging yourself, you could always head out to the moors over the next couple of days for your morning evacuaiton
|
|