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TranceInTheForest
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My only beef is the stuff with Logan, but there are explanations, kind of.
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yogabunny
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Yeah I didn't get that last bit (with Logan).
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Repertoire89
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Logan
Someone said in an earlier episode that they have explosives built into the hosts which detonate if they leave, he was sent over the border strapped to a host, so...
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finalexplosion
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yogabunny said: Welp, they pullled a Game of Thrones & I'm not surprised in the slightest!!!
That they did.
So Season3 GoT IMHO...
Curious is curious... which of the cast will be back?
Season 3?
I've watched all the episodes and read all the books twice, so you're asking the wrong person if you're looking for speculation about anything other than the upcoming season. 
There's a GoT thread as well. 
I meant
WW finale and GoT S3 finale comparison.[/Spoiler]
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Repertoire89 said: Logan
Someone said in an earlier episode that they have explosives built into the hosts which detonate if they leave, he was sent over the border strapped to a host, so...
Yeah but it doesn't make sense to put guests in jeopardy like that. Seems more likely the explosive would've only been big enough to kill the host and not harm any guest who might happen to be nearby.
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I thought he sent the horse back the way they came once they got to the border.
Off topic, but I almost feel like Hector's design is based on Logan.
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Repertoire89
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idk, just speculating, been wondering myself
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Ahhhh, I gotcha now.
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TranceInTheForest
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I get the explosives thing, but then wouldnt there be ANY kind of investigation into Logan's disappearance? Or does Will somehow get into contact with Ford and have it covered up (since he is a potential client and hadnt actually invested in the company.
Don't get me wrong, I get that there can be "accidents" in the park, but Logan was suppose to be there on business. It's also a question of ethics if you got people running around the park killing each other. It just seemed like lazy writing unless they show a flashback in the upcoming season of how Will ACTUALLY came to be head of Delos.
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i think theyll explain, the plot was so meticulous everywhere else
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Marty Mycfly
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If Logans not dead he's going to be nuts, and William also said his father will want someone more stable to run the company. I could see Logan being alive going back home and telling everybody what an animal William is and no one will believe it and William will convince everyone that Logan has lost it and is unstable.
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So Logan aside, who cares about Logan anyway?
Did Robert program Maeve to get off the train, or was that her consciousness? If it was Robert, why wouldn't he have the droids leave the park, I mean if he really wanted this to be a new beginning for them?
And what is the power source for the droids? I feel like the idea is that they are basically built like humans, at least the latest one. But do they ever show them eating?
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That whole thing I think was more of a way to distract security, but I really couldn't tell if it was her own decision to get off. Bernard knew her itinerary and said something about after she got to the "mainland". By the way sounds like they are on an island.
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I think it was a choice just like Dolores had to make a choice of her own free will at the end too.
Also Anthony Hopkins is signed on for season 2 so it will be interesting to see in what ways he'll be back. Considering that the hosts can 'relive' memories and there is plenty of time in the past to explore it doesn't necessarily mean he'll be playing a part in the present/future. Although my money is on him either having a host in his place at the dinner or he uploaded his consciousness to a host somehow/he has a host replacement. We did see him building a host in that one basement that no one knew about
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Bravo I just binge watched it in 2 days. Ep 9-10 were true mind fucks. Just incredibly unexpected but what do you expect in a show dealing with creating human concuisness.
Well played. I had a feeling that was what the maze truly was. As the man in black was searching and the ones who know tell him it isn't meant for him. It's meant for these created consciousness. Very intriguing. Wp.
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My speculations. It's pretty obvious that hosts can be built in a creators image. Meave clearly can not be controlled or shut down by anyone. Can control hosts etc. By just adapting her code.
Essentially they are still controlled. Yet at the end of the episode they absolutely can harm hosts and kill them. This is the beginning of the maze. Now these sentient beings will probably end up taking the world over.
With an army of easily fixable and immortal beings. They've all died for 30+ years and the next day they clean rebuild and have them out for guests.
Maeve is obviously the easiestly seen part of that. She knew the layout of a huge building the 2 humans that have worked there for who knows how long in a couple minutes of dicking around on there tablet.
It's terminator 101. Don't build a robot that can build a better robot. Ie Bernard. Don't give them human consciousness and ridiculous rebuild able parts.
My thoughts.
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I for one, welcome our new androidic overlords
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Enjoywho said: Meave clearly can not be controlled or shut down by anyone. Can control hosts etc. By just adapting her code.
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But she was never in control? Ford was making her do all of those things
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TranceInTheForest said: I get the explosives thing, but then wouldnt there be ANY kind of investigation into Logan's disappearance? Or does Will somehow get into contact with Ford and have it covered up (since he is a potential client and hadnt actually invested in the company.
Don't get me wrong, I get that there can be "accidents" in the park, but Logan was suppose to be there on business. It's also a question of ethics if you got people running around the park killing each other. It just seemed like lazy writing unless they show a flashback in the upcoming season of how Will ACTUALLY came to be head of Delos.
Will seemed like such a weasel throughout. Don't know how he landed the roll. I remember him in House of Cards. Was a dweeb then too. Ed Harris seems a bit nuts on the show. Like, he is all for D (likely wants to give her the D) then starts slapping her around cause he wants to play board games and puzzles? It just seems sloppy.
I hope we see Hannibal Lector next season.
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Enjoywho said: Meave clearly can not be controlled or shut down by anyone. Can control hosts etc. By just adapting her code.
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But she was never in control? Ford was making her do all of those things
Ford is the overlord. So to that end when he brings Theresa to that place she came to as a kid. Maeva is out. Dor blows his brains out and kills 5 other people. The man in black is dead..
They can kill guests now. That's what the show is going to be about. The maze with human consciousness the choice is theres. Ford was continuing his partners dream that I have no doubt of.
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