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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
#23804933 - 11/05/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jesus fuck how dare anyone have a strong opinion on a polarizing issue! Animals, Puppets!
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23804935 - 11/05/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Zzzz is just making a differentiation between those whom can abide by political necessity, and those who get involved for the sake of getting involved.
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: zZZz]
#23804938 - 11/05/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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zZZz said: Nah bro he definitely sold out on this one, he was never one to keep his mouth shut alright, but usually what he talked about was some real shit, shit that was happening in the ghettos, racism, etc.,
Real shit changes with time. Unless you grew up in a ghetto and encountered racism, please don't over-extend its reach. The 90's and early 2000's were a period when the nation was coming together and being unified from an ugly history of racism, slavery, sexism, and division. Artists like Dave Chapelle helped lead that charge in providing a conversational platform for people to come together. Every airing was an opportunity for differences and truths to be exposed so as to allow them to be discussed between people after the fact.
Saw the last Dave Chapelle? Yeah man, fucking hilarious skit. Black guy to co-worker (why do white people love rock?) white co-worker : why do black people like bass/the drums.. Conversation commenced..
People began saying wtf they wanted to say.. The internet provided a medium to connect people of varying opinions. People developed a thick skin given all the shit that was said online..Differences were exampled... Healing occurred.
This was occurring all over the nation and we were getting somewhere. So, racism was being addressed and on a path to healing. There was no reason for Dave Chapelle to keep beating that drum. The hood? Opportunities were being granted to minorities in the hood. The internet provided endless ways for people to educate themselves for free.
Then wtf happened? People went to liberal excess with the healing.. Suddenly every dumbass wanted to proclaim how they were being marginalized. Then came the oversensitivity. This shut down open communication. Suddenly you could lose your job for the slightest offending comment you made. Then came the 3rd wave feminism. Then came the SJW. Then came LGBTQ movement. Then came the safe spaces.
And yeah.. wtf happened to the real shit? The racism healing took a back seat. Then it festered and grew .. Then the SJW warriors hijacked the healed state it was locked in and re-earthed the ugly shit we already got over as a nation. In an even worse context in which no one is able to say any real shit about it. So, what about the really important shit? society moved on from it and became fixated on dumb shit which is right around the time that Dave Chapelle disappeared. The internet and free educational resources should have been the saving grace to impoverished individuals but niggas went and spent their time on instagram and worldstar ... People got lost in the liberal excess and forgot wtf were the real issues. So, anyone discussing them (Like Dave Chapelle) became irrelevant.
Dave Chapelle wasn't around for the SJW PC pussy 2nd half of the millennial generation. They shunned anybody of his type.
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zZZz said: u know real important shit, but now he's talking about Hilary this and trump that, and not that that isn't an important issue, but the way he Is doing it is all wrong, he's choosing sides, something comedians usually don't do, when good comedians talk politics they talk about them as a whole, as in the absurdity of it all. Like when Dave would mention shit that was going on in the ghetto he'd be like crackhead this, or cops be beating peeps n shit that, but he wouldn't be like yea I support the crips but not bloods, know what im saying?, he's a fucking puppet now..
It isn't important shit? Its the most divisive shit happening in this country. He's not doing it all wrong nor has he taken sides. He called out the bullshit. What did he state that was wrong?
You're calling him a puppet because he is calling it like it is.. You seemingly enjoyed it when it was about the hood/racism but now that its about sacred politics.. Now he's a puppet?
Edited by phio (11/05/16 09:57 PM)
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: phio]
#23804947 - 11/05/16 09:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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LOL holy shmoly, that post is liberal excess.
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: akira_akuma]
#23804948 - 11/05/16 09:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: Zzzz is just making a differentiation between those whom can abide by political necessity, and those who get involved for the sake of getting involved.
Yes and he obviously has some strong opinions and believes. He sounds like a man who just said fuck it, this is what i really believe.
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#23804953 - 11/05/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah, and that's laudable. i'm sure ZzzZ has his reasons for his wonderment, however. i kind of agree that people who get politically involved in sides tend to have less of a scope of truthiness and more a scope of accuracy to their manifest predictions and/or opinions on an election -- ie those who don't have a vested interest in either/or side winning, or don't have a favorite either way, they tend to see things more objectively. just in my experience.
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: akira_akuma]
#23804964 - 11/05/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fair enough but its all speculation, cant prove his sincerity or motives. Like was he paid, does he stand to practically gain something from supporting trump? I dont believe so, sounds like its from the heart to me
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: Mush 4 Brains] 1
#23804986 - 11/05/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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he also said the election was "ugly", and that the tape he heard of Trump was also "gross".
i think this was a case of him simply not liking Hillary and finding her utterly trash (like most do), and his comments, seemed to me, to be leaning in more towards that line of thinking. interviewers frame questions to get certain responses, also, that could be something in play...and i'm just saying, as a fact, that i'm almost 100% that that is what ZZZZ was pointing out...that he isn't just saying "I'm for Trump." but instead, what he is saying is, "i don't like Hillary Clinton." -- like ZZZZ said, he's taking sides...only not really taking sides. just mud flinging cause he doesn't like Hillary (who can really blame him...*waits for ZZZZ to chime in on that note of mystery*)
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: phio] 2
#23804988 - 11/05/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If he we're calling like it is he'd mention how crazy people be acting over this election, but instead he sided with the politicians.. All he did was fan the flames instead of trying to extinguish them..
Also, why didn't he wait till after the election?.. What's he trying to do, get peeps to vote?..
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: zZZz]
#23805081 - 11/05/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think the reason it comes across as a puppet move is the things he is defending trump for. It would be one thing to say "they both are shit but he stinks a bit less" but trying to defend trumps comments is near impossible. Saying there is "implied consent" becouse "they let him do it becouse he is rich" is a dangerous line to walk. As a comedian he shouldn't be taking sides like.
I won't let it effect my opinion of him too much until things play out and even then I still love much of his comedy and he seems like a chill dude probably.
Wouldn't be surprising if he was paid to put that opinion forth though and that is what makes him a puppet. He isn't furthering any cause except politicians agendas.
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: zZZz]
#23805095 - 11/05/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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zZZz said: If he we're calling like it is he'd mention how crazy people be acting over this election, but instead he sided with the politicians.. All he did was fan the flames instead of trying to extinguish them..
Also, why didn't he wait till after the election?.. What's he trying to do, get peeps to vote?..
I don't recall he did an official standup on the topic. How many episodes of Chapelle show would it take to give this monkey show equal commentary?
I think more importantly that people dislike that he wasn't hugging Hillary's vagina. A bigger surprise that he is black, outspoken, and made commentary that is 100% grounded in defense of trump who the media and every jackass in this country has seemingly railed against for saying the same shit all men say in a locker room and for highlighting that the system is corrupt.
Maybe he should just come out and say it :
 it would after-all be fair and correct. Not sure if this soft ass country would currently be able to tolerate it though without going into meltdown.
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: phio]
#23805198 - 11/06/16 12:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well he said he had already voted, which was for Hilary, yet he went ahead and protested against her and even defend her rival, so my guess is he was asked, or made, to vote for hilary probably by Obama or Hilary herself, even though he didn't want to vote for her he did it anyway as a favor, but ofcourse not without a fight.. Not without throwing a tantrum..
Check out this stand up by Dave from a while back, talks about being contacted by Obama..
Politicians always be contacting celebs to get them to publicly support them cuz they get a lot of media attention, even tho many peeps may not be fans of theirs they still seem to get their messages across to millions of people just like what happened with this most recent fluke in the op..
Whenever presidents are seen in public with big time celebrities and what not it's as a display to show peeps that those celebs are on their team.. Cuz they shook on it.. They get a seat in their private meetings or wutever, or at the very least a favor.. Like their jobs back in case they ever get fired..
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: musiclover420]
#23805381 - 11/06/16 04:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The sensationalism wouldn't lie in the fact that he's black and voicing support for a Republican, would it? Because that would be racist.
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: musiclover420]
#23805403 - 11/06/16 05:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: ‘She’s Not Right and We All Know It’
http://observer.com/2016/11/dave-chappelle-defends-trump-rips-clinton-shes-not-right-and-we-all-know-it/
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Comedian Dave Chappelle has been prepping for his November 12 hosting slot on Saturday Night Live with a series of surprise shows at The Cutting Room in New York. On Friday night, he shocked the crowd with a 60-minute set largely devoted to slamming Hillary Clinton.
He was particularly agitated about what he believes was Clinton’s role in leaking a surreptitiously recorded conversation between Republican nominee Donald J. Trump and TV personality Billy Bush. “What I heard on that tape was gross,” Chappelle said. “But the way I got to hear it was even more gross. You know that came directly from Hillary.” He stated this had put him off a candidate he had already known was “not right.” He likened voting for her to a hypothetical situation of actress Halle Berry breaking wind in his face during sexual relations. “I’m still going to go for it,” he said. “But I wish she hadn’t done that thing.”
Chappelle further shocked the New York crowd by defending Trump. He took issue with the media stating as fact that Trump had admitted committing sexual assault in the recorded conversation. “Sexual assault? It wasn’t. He said, ‘And when you’re a star, they let you do it.’ That phrase implies consent. I just don’t like the way the media twisted that whole thing. Nobody questioned it.”
The comedian stated that Trump’s resilience in the face of the leak had impressed him. Comparing Trump to The Terminator, Chappelle said, “That would have devastated anybody else.” Chappelle added that Trump’s handling of the debate immediately following the controversy had won him over. Referring to Anderson Cooper and Martha Raddatz’s hostile questioning, he said, “Something about this was backward. A gay white man and a white woman asking a multi-billionaire how he knows the system is rigged and insisting it’s not. Does that sound right to you? It didn’t seem right to me. And here’s how you know Trump is the most gangsta candidate ever. They asked him how he knows the system is rigged and he said, ‘Because I take advantage of it.’ He may as well have flashed his membership card for the Illuminati right then.”
Noting that he voted early in rural Yellow Springs, Ohio before heading to New York, Chappelle said he “didn’t feel good” about voting for Clinton. “She’s going to be on a coin someday. And her behavior has not been coin-worthy,” he said. “She’s not right and we all know she’s not right.”
Chappelle noted that he’d been present at a late October going-away party at the White House, sponsored by BET. “Everyone there was black – everyone except Bradley Cooper,” he said. Chappelle listed attendees including Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayer, singer Usher, DNC chairwoman Donna Brazile, and DJ D-Nice, who performed at the hush-hush soiree. He claimed that, at the end of the night, he grabbed the mic and waxed lyrical about Frederick Douglass, concluding that even though the current election has been “gross,” he still loves the United States of America.
The comedian wasn’t feeling so much love for women’s rights, gay rights, and transgender rights activists, saying, “They should not be having that conversation in front of black people. You go ahead and feel something about your rights. But if you’re putting sexism and homophobia and transphobia in front of racism, you should be ashamed of yourself.” Chappelle still slammed North Carolina legislation stating that transgender people must use the public restroom that aligns with the sex stated on their respective birth certificates. “If you need to show your birth certificate to take a dump at a Wal-Mart in North Carolina, that’s insane.” Chappelle noted he would rather not have “a woman with a dick” stand next to him at a urinal. He also said he wasn’t happy about rumors that Caitlyn Jenner would pose nude for Sports Illustrated. “Sometimes I just want to read some stats."
Disclosure: Donald Trump is the father-in-law of Jared Kushner, the publisher of Observer Media.
Chappelle is slated to host SNL on November 12, but said, “You know there’s a pool going on whether or not I show up. I got $100,000 that says I won’t.”

Wheres the chappelle we knew and loved? He seems to be a shell of himself ever since he came back from africa
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#23805494 - 11/06/16 07:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've liked his recent stuff, someone uploaded a recent live show to youtube and it's not bad at all.
Did I miss something? Dave Chappelle implied he is still voting for Hillary with the Halle Barry joke I thought, he was just defending Trumps character.
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: Bozko]
#23805507 - 11/06/16 07:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bozko said: I've liked his recent stuff, someone uploaded a recent live show to youtube and it's not bad at all.
Did I miss something? Dave Chappelle implied he is still voting for Hillary with the Halle Barry joke I thought, he was just defending Trumps character.
Its not his material its his perception. Before going to africa he was all like "fuck the system fuck the powers that be" but since he came back it seems like hes sucking up to all the people he despised
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: Bozko] 1
#23805508 - 11/06/16 07:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why is it that we live in a world where the truth only comes out of stand up comedians?
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: Patlal]
#23805513 - 11/06/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's why I was pretty psyched when Rosanne Barre was running a while back. I would have voted for her in any party.
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#23805519 - 11/06/16 07:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said:
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Bozko said: I've liked his recent stuff, someone uploaded a recent live show to youtube and it's not bad at all.
Did I miss something? Dave Chappelle implied he is still voting for Hillary with the Halle Barry joke I thought, he was just defending Trumps character.
Its not his material its his perception. Before going to africa he was all like "fuck the system fuck the powers that be" but since he came back it seems like hes sucking up to all the people he despised
Maybe he found out what real oppression looks like
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Re: Dave Chappelle Defends Trump, Rips Clinton: [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#23805546 - 11/06/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said:
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Bozko said: I've liked his recent stuff, someone uploaded a recent live show to youtube and it's not bad at all.
Did I miss something? Dave Chappelle implied he is still voting for Hillary with the Halle Barry joke I thought, he was just defending Trumps character.
Its not his material its his perception. Before going to africa he was all like "fuck the system fuck the powers that be" but since he came back it seems like hes sucking up to all the people he despised
Eh, I don't see it. Any view point in particular that doesn't jive with you? I personally agree with his opinion that Trump has been unfairly vilified by the media for sexual assault, he went from zero to rapist in a matter of days over some pretty bad evidence. That doesn't mean I support the guy, and I think it's good to see situations for what they are, not what you are told they are.
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