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river sand and quinosol sources/ever grown aztekiums?
    #2380460 - 02/26/04 06:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ok, i just got a big order of cactus seeds in and i'm a little nervous about germinating the aztekium seeds.


has anyone here ever grown either aztekium species before? all the articles i've read make it seem next to impossible to germinate these seeds and grow the cacti. many say the same about lophophoras, but i find those fairly simple to germinate and grow. i don't know the skill level of the people writing the articles, so who knows. what i've read hasn't made me too confident though.


this article seemed to be the most informatitive one i found, but i don't know where to find quinosol or river sand.

a 0.1% quinosol solution is the recommended antifungal soak for aztekium seeds. does anyone know of a substitute or a source for it?

river sand is specifically recommended in a few soil mixes i've seen. are there any chain stores that might carry the sand i need?

any advice will be appreciated. if i can't find the sand, i guess i'll just use my regular perlite/ceramic pebble/peat lophophora soil mix and adjust the ph if neccessary.


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Re: river sand and quinosol sources/ever grown aztekiums? [Re: eric_the_red]
    #2380809 - 02/26/04 08:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

River sand I have found at Lowes as well as Home Depot, in 1 pound bags i believe.

I've never ever used any anti-fungal soaks for any cacti, or any seed, germination. Everything i've read about loph's says you should use an anti-fungal agent but i never have and had success. I suspect the aztekium hype is more than it seems. But you are braver than I because it has kept me away.


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Re: river sand and quinosol sources/ever grown aztekiums? [Re: neuro]
    #2381647 - 02/27/04 02:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

oh, well. i guess i'll be guinea pigging this one.  :grin:


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Re: river sand and quinosol sources/ever grown aztekiums? [Re: eric_the_red]
    #2382493 - 02/27/04 11:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Keep us (me) updated.


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Re: river sand and quinosol sources/ever grown aztekiums? [Re: eric_the_red]
    #2394636 - 03/02/04 12:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

My advice would be to grow Aztekium as you have successfully grown Lophophora. I've grown a variety of cacti from seed, including Lophophora, Astrophytum, Ferocactus, Trichocereus, Melocactus, Mammillaria, and Notocactus, and haven't had any problems giving them all roughly the same treatment. After a year or two I expect to start treating them differently.


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Re: river sand and quinosol sources/ever grown aztekiums? [Re: neuro]
    #2465338 - 03/23/04 10:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ok, i have one visible seedling so far. it is smaller than a pinhead. the only reason i can see it is because it is growing on top of a piece of perlite that is sitting on top of the soil mix. there could be more seedlings growing in the crevices of the soil, but i can't see any.

i couldn't find anything labeled as river sand, so i just made a mix with what i had. i used perlite, something i got from walmart called "aqua soil" that looks like clay pieces, and some jiffy mix to put the ph in the acidic range.

i sterilized a half pint jar of the mix and sowed 10 seeds around the 5th of march. the jar is kept sealed and under a lamp, next to some baby lophs. since (as far as i can tell) only 1 out of ten seeds germinated :sad:, i don't think that was an ideal soil.

i am sowing some aztekium hintonii seeds in a new mix tonight and hope for a better results. i found something called "paving sand" and mixed it with some clay and perlite. i have unsuccessfully tried to get a ph of 5.5 with this mix.

does anyone know of a cheap source of low-grade sulphuric acid? ...or have any ideas on how to acidify this mix without the use of peat moss or something similar?


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Re: river sand and quinosol sources/ever grown aztekiums? [Re: eric_the_red]
    #2465371 - 03/23/04 11:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I try to make my mixes mostly sand or VERY sandy with some organic matter in it, hand full of peat moss or so or even some soil.

I find the sandiest soils to best germination mixtures.


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Re: river sand and quinosol sources/ever grown aztekiums? [Re: neuro]
    #2465432 - 03/23/04 11:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

this new mix is nearly all sand. the only problem is that i can barely get it on the acidic side of the ph scale.

though they are not made for potted plants, i mixed a lot of those sulphur flakes in with a batch of sand just to see what it would do. i still couldn't get an acidic mix, but maybe those flakes need to dissolve for a few weeks or something.

i'm sure this new mix will work better, hopefully a lot better. if not....back to the drawing board. :tongue:


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