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Obama commits felony on live TV * 1
    #23804478 - 11/05/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=47397

I guess he told illegals to go out and vote.

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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23804495 - 11/05/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Oh no.


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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 2
    #23804511 - 11/05/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

watched video: analysis:

he didn't encourage anyone to vote. he said "when you vote you are a citizen", ie, that when you are in the US, you are not limited in your movement, so you can freely go and vote. it was in response to the question, "if i am x, y, and undocumented, does all my information get documented ect, will someone deport us?", and Obama goes "no".

end of story. you can all watch the video. it's about Obama talking about how voting is confidential, and that the voting laws do not put burdens on people to have their information scrutinised simply for voting.

there was no incitement.


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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23804525 - 11/05/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ya the Fox News delusion persists to hear what none sense their delusion persists as.

You cannot register to vote if you are not a citizen.  Good grief


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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23804542 - 11/05/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Non citIzens can vote in many areas for local races like mayor and city councilors. Depends on the local laws.


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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: akira_akuma] * 3
    #23804547 - 11/05/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Cut the shit ...
The question was framed clearly.
Questioner : There are alot of undocumented 'dreamers' in this country who contribute blah blah blah. (Essentially an illegal immigrant). They're worried about voting because they feel if they vote they'll be scrutinized and found out.

K, pause... You're only allowed to vote for the Federal election if you're a citizen. If you're not a citizen you can't vote.
That's the law and he should have stated it clearly. However, he's a Graduate from Harvard Law and has an Agenda and knows how to state things that are against the law in contrived terms..

So..

Obama replies : Not true .. When you vote you are a citizen...
Essentially saying, no one knows whether or not you're an illegal or illegally voting.
He goes on to comment : No one checks it even scrutinizes it. So, the vote is confidential.

Illegals can acquire IDs and all sorts of credentials that allow them to vote when they are not citizens. Obama is telling them. No worries. It is assumed that you're a citizen when you vote. No one even checks to make sure you are one. So go ahead and vote if you're an illegal and managed to find a way to vote.

His Law degree affords him the ability to state something blatantly illegal in legally contrived terms and he did just that. Has for most of his time in office.

Seems you need to re-watch the video. The reporter framed it in clear terms and in his coined way he responded in unclear terms conveying in crafty ways how to circumvent or find the loophole in the law to achieve ones goals.

Harvard Law school for you.


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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: phio] * 3
    #23804551 - 11/05/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

K, pause... You're only allowed to vote if you're a citizen. If you're not a citizen you can't vote.




Not true. I really wish conservatives would take a fucking civics course. You know so little about the country you live in


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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: koods]
    #23804559 - 11/05/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

K, pause... You're only allowed to vote if you're a citizen. If you're not a citizen you can't vote.




Not true. I really wish conservatives would take a fucking civics course. You know so little about the country you live in




You know little about federal laws as that's what were speaking about not whether jim bob gets to manage the local township....

Case and point :
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/bombshell-1000-illegal-votes-cast-eight-virginia-localities/

"The problem is most certainly exponentially worse because we have no data regarding aliens on the registration rolls for the other 125 Virginia localities.”

"It’s a felony for non-citizens to vote in Virginia. But in Virginia, no proof of citizenship is required when voters register."
^this is what Obama was slyly referring too when he said 'when you vote, you're a citizen'.

But... please tell me about the Civics courses I missed.
Willful ignorance is just that and I see right through it.



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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: phio]
    #23804562 - 11/05/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hey Bill, I am legit, you have seen a taste of heaven in its terrifying and beautiful nature. You have seen it too, kind of a war, but in all honesty, I think Obama should just come to my house and shake my hand.

If that happens, good fortune upon this world will persist


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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: koods]
    #23804565 - 11/05/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Y dont yall just leave obama alone, ya big bullies


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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: Rhizohunter]
    #23804568 - 11/05/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Rhizohunter said:
Hey Bill, I am legit, you have seen a taste of heaven in its terrifying and beautiful nature. You have seen it too, kind of a war, but in all honesty, I think Obama should just come to my house and shake my hand.

If that happens, good fortune upon this world will persist



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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: phio]
    #23804570 - 11/05/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

phio said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

K, pause... You're only allowed to vote if you're a citizen. If you're not a citizen you can't vote.




Not true. I really wish conservatives would take a fucking civics course. You know so little about the country you live in




You know little about federal laws as that's what were speaking about not whether jim bob gets to manage the local township....



Quote:

phio said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

K, pause... You're only allowed to vote if you're a citizen. If you're not a citizen you can't vote.




Not true. I really wish conservatives would take a fucking civics course. You know so little about the country you live in




You know little about federal laws as that's what were speaking about not whether jim bob gets to manage the local township....



Is that what were taking about? I heard nothing about federal elections.


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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: phio]
    #23804575 - 11/05/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

phio said:

Seems you need to re-watch the video.



nah, i pretty much had said everything you just said.


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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: koods]
    #23804577 - 11/05/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

phio said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

K, pause... You're only allowed to vote if you're a citizen. If you're not a citizen you can't vote.




Not true. I really wish conservatives would take a fucking civics course. You know so little about the country you live in




You know little about federal laws as that's what were speaking about not whether jim bob gets to manage the local township....



Quote:

phio said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

K, pause... You're only allowed to vote if you're a citizen. If you're not a citizen you can't vote.




Not true. I really wish conservatives would take a fucking civics course. You know so little about the country you live in




You know little about federal laws as that's what were speaking about not whether jim bob gets to manage the local township....



Is that what were taking about? I heard nothing about federal elections.





Willful ignorance. I hope you don't think you're fooling anyone.


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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: phio] * 1
    #23804584 - 11/05/16 07:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

fooling anyone about what? Obama said "you won't get scrutinised" ie, you can go and vote and worry not about people scrutinising you. that is note a call or incitement to vote.


:shrug:


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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23804588 - 11/05/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

akira_akuma said:
Quote:

phio said:

Seems you need to re-watch the video.



nah, i pretty much had said everything you just said. save the mistakes.




You didn't which is why I spoke clearly and directly about what was being suggested in the clip and the totality of the framing of the question. The framing and context was capture in the clip. The questioner outlined an illegal immigrant voting.

He spoke outside of the spirit of federal laws and outlined a way for an illegal to, with a high success rate, vote illegally. Thus the ordering of the words :
"When you vote, you're a citizen"
vs
"You can only vote in federal election procedures If you're a citizen"

I don't expect someone who is unfamiliar w/ the idiosyncrasies of language in a lawful context to understand this slight of hand which is why I defined it for you.


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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23804589 - 11/05/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

akira_akuma said:
watched video: analysis:

he didn't encourage anyone to vote. he said "when you vote you are a citizen", ie, that when you are in the US, you are not limited in your movement, so you can freely go and vote. it was in response to the question, "if i am x, y, and undocumented, does all my information get documented ect, will someone deport us?", and Obama goes "no".

end of story. you can all watch the video. it's about Obama talking about how voting is confidential, and that the voting laws do not put burdens on people to have their information scrutinised simply for voting.

there was no incitement.





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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: akira_akuma] * 2
    #23804594 - 11/05/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Good to see Obambam having some fun on his way out but I wish he would just spark a doob during a press conference or call Trump a nigga or do something funny.  Don't let me down Jim Crowbama.


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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: koods]
    #23804595 - 11/05/16 07:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:



Case and point :
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/bombshell-1000-illegal-votes-cast-eight-virginia-localities/

"The problem is most certainly exponentially worse because we have no data regarding aliens on the registration rolls for the other 125 Virginia localities.”

"It’s a felony for non-citizens to vote in Virginia. But in Virginia, no proof of citizenship is required when voters register."
^this is what Obama was slyly referring too when he said 'when you vote, you're a citizen'.

But... please tell me about the Civics courses I missed.
Willful ignorance is just that and I see right through it.





Nothing in that article about illegal voting. Were there actual votes cast by non citizens? Article doesn't say anything about that, so I'm thinking no.


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Re: Obama commits felony on live TV [Re: koods]
    #23804601 - 11/05/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Is there an illegal running for president I can vote for?  Should I just vote Obama again?


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