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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: Take this as you will || contact with entities [Re: wolf8312]
#23817674 - 11/09/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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What does religion or hell have to do with anything im saying?
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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wolf8312
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Re: Take this as you will || contact with entities [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#23817969 - 11/09/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dont know what are you saying?
-------------------- "I'm every nightmare you ever had. I am your worst dreams come true. I am everything you ever were afraid of." Pennywise the dancing clown
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musiclover420
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Re: Take this as you will || contact with entities [Re: wolf8312] 1
#23818110 - 11/10/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is just a ridiculous semantics thing. Your definition of atheism seems flawed to me as does proclaiming new born's as atheists.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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flickedbic
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Re: Take this as you will || contact with entities [Re: musiclover420]
#23818345 - 11/10/16 04:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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disbelief [dis-bi-leef] noun 1. the inability or refusal to believe
I don't think babies can disbelieve something they have no knowldge of.
-------------------- Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order: 1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine 2)Amanita (urine drank twice) 3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose) 4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators) 5)Salvia (need to try quid)
All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental. Blessing.
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musiclover420
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Re: Take this as you will || contact with entities [Re: flickedbic]
#23818349 - 11/10/16 04:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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flickedbic said: disbelief [dis-bi-leef] noun 1. the inability or refusal to believe
I don't think babies can disbelieve something they have no knowldge of.
Exactly. But the definition also slyly fits in "or lack of belief" which is what he is basing his thoughts on I assume.
I should start a religion, one where we don't believe in this thing I just came up with that no one else knows about. That way I can claim everyone who doesn't believe in that thing I made up is part of my religion.
Genius right?
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
Edited by musiclover420 (11/10/16 04:57 AM)
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OfTheVoid46
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Re: Take this as you will || contact with entities [Re: musiclover420]
#23828379 - 11/13/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why are "demons" automatically always evil to Christians?
Have ya'll ever considered that maybe some of these demons are indeed lost souls begging for your help?
By not partaking in the DMT and helping the beings you are preventing their soul from reaching heaven which makes you .... SATAN ... O.o
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wolf8312
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Re: Take this as you will || contact with entities [Re: OfTheVoid46]
#23831319 - 11/14/16 06:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why are "demons" automatically always evil to Christians?
This is splitting hairs semantically again no? Its a bit late in the day to change the definition of the word 'demon' to mean instead 'kindly angelic entity' as demons are by definition malevolent and parasitic creatures. This is what we all understand the word to mean and why go by anything other than what the dictionary says?
If the demons you have met yourself were not evil then they were probably not demons.
I once saw a section of a huge flaming and rotating column embedded within which I glimpsed thousands up thousands of trapped evil souls. The sheer hatred I felt from the one that my mind zeroed in upon was terrifying, truly as if I was face to face with pure evil. They were not demons though as that was more of a vision but I have explained already in this thread my experiences with them on DMT.
Next thing you'll be saying that the devil is misunderstood and a good guy once you get to know him!
-------------------- "I'm every nightmare you ever had. I am your worst dreams come true. I am everything you ever were afraid of." Pennywise the dancing clown
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musiclover420
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Re: Take this as you will || contact with entities [Re: wolf8312]
#23831343 - 11/14/16 06:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its a bit late in the day to change the definition of the word 'demon' to mean instead 'kindly angelic entity' as demons are by definition malevolent and parasitic creatures.
That is actually the opposite of the case... Demon was a term coined after Daemon.
Notice Demon is just a twisted religious term for daemon:
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de·mon1 ˈdēmən/ noun noun: demon; plural noun: demons
1. an evil spirit or devil, especially one thought to possess a person or act as a tormentor in hell. synonyms: devil, fiend, evil spirit; More incubus, succubus "the demons from hell" antonyms: angel a cruel, evil, or destructive person or thing. "I was a little demon, I can tell you" synonyms: monster, ogre, fiend, devil, brute, savage, beast, barbarian, animal "the man was a demon" antonyms: saint a forceful, fierce, or skillful performer of a specified activity. "a friend of mine is a demon cook" synonyms: pro, ace, expert, genius, master, virtuoso, maestro, past master, marvel; More star; informalhotshot, whiz, buff "she's a demon on the tennis court" reckless mischief; devilry. "his eyes are bursting with pure demon" 2. another term for daemon1 (sense 1).
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dae·mon1 ˈdēmən/ noun noun: daemon; plural noun: daemons; noun: daimon; plural noun: daimons
1. (in ancient Greek belief) a divinity or supernatural being of a nature between gods and humans. an inner or attendant spirit or inspiring force. synonyms: numen, genius, genius loci, inspiring force, attendant spirit, tutelary spirit, demon "it must have been a magnificent daemon that inhabited the heart and soul of this artist" 2. archaic spelling of demon1.

So demon could just mean a supernatural entity or it could mean an evil spirit depending on how you look at it. The latter seems like religious fear mongering though.
Daemon almost certainly came first though so if anything demon would be the change in definition.

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Next thing you'll be saying that the devil is misunderstood and a good guy once you get to know him!
Funny thing is this is actually probably true The "devil" is just one side of the coin and is a part of "god" as we all are Good could not exist without evil, there could be no positive without negative
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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wolf8312
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Re: Take this as you will || contact with entities [Re: musiclover420]
#23831443 - 11/14/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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-------------------- "I'm every nightmare you ever had. I am your worst dreams come true. I am everything you ever were afraid of." Pennywise the dancing clown
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musiclover420
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Re: Take this as you will || contact with entities [Re: wolf8312]
#23832648 - 11/14/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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wolf8312 said:
  
You have to remember religion, especially Christianity, is notorious for stealing other cultures beliefs and twisting them into a fear mongering mental prison.
You can see it with so many of their beliefs. They are just refined ideas from older religions/ ways of thinking. People fear the unknown sadly.
Look at what happened with the spanish and the aztects. They saw them using psychedelics and talking to spirits and assumed they were worshiping demons/ devils becouse that is how they had been twisted to think. So they brutalized the natives in the name of their religion and all but destroyed their culture/ traditions simply becouse of the fear of the unknown.
I have religious family and I respect their beliefs but it's easy to see how it is a mental prison for them even if they don't realize.
My great grandma was a christian scientist or some shit and didn't believe in modern medicine. She was a "elder athlete" who competed in marathons and swimming competitions for old people. She was very healthy and lived to be 95+ but in her old age she wouldn't accept any medicine... Nothing at all, all she believed in was the power of prayer. She might have lived longer or at least more comfortably if not for her beliefs, clearly that was her decision ultimately though I am sure her religious upbringing was the real reason.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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