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Ifishhigh
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#23802766 - 11/05/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not a liar and I'm not looking for attention. I tried tripping again and failed once Again. I've grown shrooms and ate them a bunch it times and felt nothing. I tried potent dealer shrooms and felt nothing. I prepaired a foot of fresh bridgesii and felt nothing. I've tried several alcohol extractions of powdered / potent cactus and felt nothing. I'm on no medication. I also can't get High on thc. Not even dabs. I'm positive this has all been caused by smoking synthetic cannabis. That stuff can change your brain chemistry permanently. Or at least kill receptors. Again weed or psychedelics have no effect on me. Read my previous threads or look at my pics. I have pics of cactus and shrooms to prove I'm not bull shitting. I'm not on or never have been on any medication. If you get anything out of reading this thread let it be to stay away from synthetic weed.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23802821 - 11/05/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gladly
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I agree, that shit bout killed me a few years back. Luckily, I can still trip and get high.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23802860 - 11/05/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a friend wich doesnt get effects from tryptamines too , its his brain chemistry wich doesnt work , i can prove that because he ate 5 g dried in front of me
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Try salvia bet that works on ya lol
Synthetic weed? Ewww
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My sister in law is the same way, and she did also smoke synth weed. But her brain eventually repaired and she can trip now, it took several years.
Just take it easy brotato.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: Tmethyl]
#23803017 - 11/05/16 11:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Too someone saying salvia!!! Yea I'm sure that might do the trick. Not what I'm looking for though. Yea man synthetic weed is terrible. When I smoke really good weed and can't feel it is really depressing. Doing the psychedelics and not feeling it isisnt depressing because I never Felt it,so I do t know what I'm missing. It's very surprising though.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23803069 - 11/05/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Start taking supplements. 5-htp and fish oil primarily.
I don't know if it'll do anything but it's worth a shot.
Also yes try salvia. The k-opioid action from salvia shouldn't be haltered by a fried 5hta receptor.
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I have trouble believing this. Even if you take ssris you can still trip, you just need more. If these chemicals do not work on you then neither would the endogenous ones and you would have a LOT more to complain about then "I can't get high."
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krypto2000 said: I have trouble believing this. Even if you take ssris you can still trip, you just need more. If these chemicals do not work on you then neither would the endogenous ones and you would have a LOT more to complain about then "I can't get high."
I posted pics of the foot of bridgesii I got in the mail. Prepared it properly. Posted all the steps with pics. Why would I lie ? Did I create an account years ago just to lead to this lie ? I don't sell anything or have anything to gain by telling my experience. I'm just a town worker who plows snow and fixes potholes. What are endogenous things ? I'm not sure what that is. When I tripped ( and it was only one time ) was long before I ever smoked synthetic weed. It was salvia. It ripped me apart for like 5 minutes. But again this was before synthetic abuse.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23803426 - 11/05/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: I have trouble believing this. Even if you take ssris you can still trip, you just need more. If these chemicals do not work on you then neither would the endogenous ones and you would have a LOT more to complain about then "I can't get high."
I posted pics of the foot of bridgesii I got in the mail. Prepared it properly. Posted all the steps with pics. Why would I lie ? Did I create an account years ago just to lead to this lie ? I don't sell anything or have anything to gain by telling my experience. I'm just a town worker who plows snow and fixes potholes. What are endogenous things ? I'm not sure what that is. When I tripped ( and it was only one time ) was long before I ever smoked synthetic weed. It was salvia. It ripped me apart for like 5 minutes. But again this was before synthetic abuse.
He's not saying you're lying, just that you conclusion is suspect.
See the receptors in your brain which interact with psychedelics aren't only there for the purpose of interacting with psychedelics. They perform all kinds of functions that you need to have a healthy brain.
If the receptors in your brain were somehow damaged in such a way as to make it impossible for them to interact with psychedelics in a normal way, they would also be unable to interact normally with the chemicals that you body produces naturally in order to maintain healthy brain function.
You would be all kinds of fucked up.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: healing]
#23803512 - 11/05/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Exactly, thanks healing. I don't think you're lying at all, but it just doesn't make sense to me. I've never heard of someone that not only could not trip, but could not get high on marijuana as well. It doesn't follow our understanding of how the brain works. It's like saying you have a funnel and it funnels olive oil just fine, but whenever you pour water in it nothing happens, it doesn't make sense.
You mention that the only time you've tripped before has been on salvia. Salvia is way different than classical psychedelics. Are you sure you are not tripping and it's just not what you expect or something? Likewise I can get way higher from certain rc cannabinoids than I can from weed, but I definitely get high. Are you saying you literally have no effects at all to speak of with either of these substances? What all have you tried and how many times?
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krypto2000 said: Exactly, thanks healing. I don't think you're lying at all, but it just doesn't make sense to me. I've never heard of someone that not only could not trip, but could not get high on marijuana as well. It doesn't follow our understanding of how the brain works. It's like saying you have a funnel and it funnels olive oil just fine, but whenever you pour water in it nothing happens, it doesn't make sense.
You mention that the only time you've tripped before has been on salvia. Salvia is way different than classical psychedelics. Are you sure you are not tripping and it's just not what you expect or something? Likewise I can get way higher from certain rc cannabinoids than I can from weed, but I definitely get high. Are you saying you literally have no effects at all to speak of with either of these substances? What all have you tried and how many times?
The weed thing is surreal man. I don't feel anything. I can smoke insane amounts of high quality and feel no different than smoking a cigarette. I found this out when the synthetic weed stopped working. I can smoke synthetic and not feel it anymore. Others who smoke it will be totally bugging out. As far as the psychedelics I've been trying cactus. I get the same effect each time. It's like the feeling from coke when your coming down without the anger. It's hard to describe. I always feel sensitive to temperature. Like I'm too cold or too hot. Touch feels the same. I get no nausea. I see nothing unusual. No change in sight. The same feeling from shrooms but like described shrooms last briefly and the cactus is all day. This is definitely not tripping or nobody would be wasting their time. Full disclosure. If I take a tolerance break from synthetic weed. Like 6 months or so. It will effect me again. But that will only work for a week. Than back to not feeling it. I took break for a whole year for real weed and sadly it didn't work. There's no way I can prove it but please believe me. No feeling. I've been wondering lately if I try eating mj edibles if I can have some luck. I truly miss smoking weed. I really loved it. The only reason I been trying psychedelics is because the weed won't work
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23803820 - 11/05/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: Exactly, thanks healing. I don't think you're lying at all, but it just doesn't make sense to me. I've never heard of someone that not only could not trip, but could not get high on marijuana as well. It doesn't follow our understanding of how the brain works. It's like saying you have a funnel and it funnels olive oil just fine, but whenever you pour water in it nothing happens, it doesn't make sense.
You mention that the only time you've tripped before has been on salvia. Salvia is way different than classical psychedelics. Are you sure you are not tripping and it's just not what you expect or something? Likewise I can get way higher from certain rc cannabinoids than I can from weed, but I definitely get high. Are you saying you literally have no effects at all to speak of with either of these substances? What all have you tried and how many times?
The weed thing is surreal man. I don't feel anything. I can smoke insane amounts of high quality and feel no different than smoking a cigarette. I found this out when the synthetic weed stopped working. I can smoke synthetic and not feel it anymore. Others who smoke it will be totally bugging out. As far as the psychedelics I've been trying cactus. I get the same effect each time. It's like the feeling from coke when your coming down without the anger. It's hard to describe. I always feel sensitive to temperature. Like I'm too cold or too hot. Touch feels the same. I get no nausea. I see nothing unusual. No change in sight. The same feeling from shrooms but like described shrooms last briefly and the cactus is all day. This is definitely not tripping or nobody would be wasting their time. Full disclosure. If I take a tolerance break from synthetic weed. Like 6 months or so. It will effect me again. But that will only work for a week. Than back to not feeling it. I took break for a whole year for real weed and sadly it didn't work. There's no way I can prove it but please believe me. No feeling. I've been wondering lately if I try eating mj edibles if I can have some luck. I truly miss smoking weed. I really loved it. The only reason I been trying psychedelics is because the weed won't work 
Well it sounds like you've only tried cacti and mushrooms, both of which are known to be variable in potency.
To me your experiences seem to be in line with a very low dose of each of those substances.
How many times have you tried each one? Can you tell me about the source of your cacti and mushrooms, and how much you ate each time?
It could be that you're experiencing two different problems, which would make much more sense.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: healing]
#23803835 - 11/05/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Have you ever tried lsd?
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Never tried lsd. Shrooms I grew myself using pftek. Multispre needle of golden teachers. The cactus I tried was using everclear extractions from dried chips from a vendor in Peru. Once I tried a foot of fresh bridgesii and boiled to make tea. I thought the bridgesii tea was a guarantee. With the everclear extractions I was powdering 5o grams of chips into powder.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23804031 - 11/05/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You need to try lsd its the only classic left! Lol i wish you great luck with your endeavors !
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connectedcosmos said: You need to try lsd its the only classic left! Lol i wish you great luck with your endeavors !
I can't find lady Lucy. Hopefully it finds me lol
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: Ifishhigh]
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Ifishhigh said: Never tried lsd. Shrooms I grew myself using pftek. Multispre needle of golden teachers. The cactus I tried was using everclear extractions from dried chips from a vendor in Peru. Once I tried a foot of fresh bridgesii and boiled to make tea. I thought the bridgesii tea was a guarantee. With the everclear extractions I was powdering 5o grams of chips into powder.
Yeah dude. None of those situations are a guarantee of a solid trip. I wouldn't give up just yet, but I also wouldn't just take massive doses in response to your previous experiences, just in case it turns out you can trip and you take way too much.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23804149 - 11/05/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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connectedcosmos said: You need to try lsd its the only classic left! Lol i wish you great luck with your endeavors !
I can't find lady Lucy. Hopefully it finds me lol
try 1p lsd.
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connectedcosmos said: You need to try lsd its the only classic left! Lol i wish you great luck with your endeavors !
I can't find lady Lucy. Hopefully it finds me lol
try 1p lsd.
Sound advice this can be ordered off clearnet and is damnn near identical identical to lsd
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I have never smoked synthetic weed, but it seems to me no matter how many mushrooms I eat, I can't get anything out of it. I made like 6 harvests, and nothing! My husband got something out of them, though. Maybe it is just your natural brain chemistry?
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: Jenjens]
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Jenjens said: I have never smoked synthetic weed, but it seems to me no matter how many mushrooms I eat, I can't get anything out of it. I made like 6 harvests, and nothing! My husband got something out of them, though. Maybe it is just your natural brain chemistry?
Are you on any medication? How much were you eating? Assuming you're not taking anything to block or dampen the effects psychedelics work on everyone, period, it just makes no sense that they would not. As was already discussed if they do not work on you you would have some serious problems going on besides the inability to trip. It sounds to me like OP is taking weak/bunk psychedelics and simply has a big tolerance to marijuana.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: Ifishhigh]
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Ifishhigh said: I'm not a liar and I'm not looking for attention. I tried tripping again and failed once Again. I've grown shrooms and ate them a bunch it times and felt nothing. I tried potent dealer shrooms and felt nothing. I prepaired a foot of fresh bridgesii and felt nothing. I've tried several alcohol extractions of powdered / potent cactus and felt nothing. I'm on no medication. I also can't get High on thc. Not even dabs. I'm positive this has all been caused by smoking synthetic cannabis. That stuff can change your brain chemistry permanently. Or at least kill receptors. Again weed or psychedelics have no effect on me. Read my previous threads or look at my pics. I have pics of cactus and shrooms to prove I'm not bull shitting. I'm not on or never have been on any medication. If you get anything out of reading this thread let it be to stay away from synthetic weed.
if this is true, come back in a couple years of NOT smoking synth THC and u should be "healed" hopefuly.
Very bizarre but that synth THC is bad shit.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: healing]
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That's the best answer I've seen on the previous page Healing. I've made cactus tea many times and failed all but once. I'm doing a d.limo extraction right now. I've failed to trip on mushrooms I've grown myself and my conclusion is that I picked so many off cakes that I got threshold effects through my fingertips and thus couldn't "redose" to much effect later.. 300g wet scopulicola + 26g lumberjack dried chips.. Tea'd up, miniscule effect.. 30g wet cubes in blender that fateful evening. Effects are, in fact as stated above. Don't give up man! Don't tell anybody but I got kicked out of the military for synthetic smoke. I was smoking hardcore every day for years. At least a bag a day. This is after I got booted. Anyways I finally wised up and did what you know you need to do. Same scenario as u bro. Top shelf wouldn't touch me. Its tough the first few days.. Waking up at night and no appetite or stamina.. Literal withdrawals but it's your own choice.
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thetechnician said: I'm interested to hear about the decline of effect when you were smoking the synthetic stuff. How much were you taking, and how often? Do you know what it contained? Did you notice any other symptoms - depression, paranoia, memory loss, etc?
I have seen some people react differently with substances due to their brain chemistry. It's possible that they altered this with obscure legal pharmaceutical and illegal drug use. I have a friend that doesn't react the traditional way with MDMA. She becomes antisocial, and has never experienced the euphoria that it is normally associated with. I also had a friend that was schizophrenic, and mushrooms/LSD had minimal effect on him.
It is hard to believe, but I believe you. Maybe you should just take a break from all substances. Don't chase psychedelics to replace what weed gives you. Two totally different paths.
Your reply made my day. Thanks for believing me. I'm just here to spread truth. I have no hidden agenda. It was a slow decline. The stuff I was smoking towards the end was from an online vendor. It would totally rip my reality apart at first. Example would be brief but strong sensations of not knowing who people were. Not knowing what day of week it is. Just total brain melting feeling. After 20 minutes it would be followed by relaxation. I couldn't share with friends because they would think their going to die and have extreme paranoia. Maybe I'm not suppose to mention but it was called mrkosh. Anyhow the effects started wearing off over the 2 years. The weird thing is I would smoke and not feel anything but I would look ripped for hours. It got to the point to quit because kosh or any other brand wouldn't effect me anymore. I would look really high that's it. So I quit. I quit long enough to purchase a grow tent and have seeds shipped to me. I grew my own weed plants from seed to buds. This whole time I didn't smoke synthetic or real weed. I had a friend come over to help me harvest the weed. It wasn't totally dry yet so I microwaved a bud . We put in a bowl and smoked. To my surprise my friend was baked off 2 pulls. I felt 0 effects. I thought maybe it's me weed isisnt strong enough. The following few days I bought dealers weed and n0 effects. I even found someone selling extracted oil/ dabs and it didn't work. People on these boards say I'm lying. Again . Why would I lie . Not even shrooms are effecting me. I have no doubt in my mind this happened from the sumo weed . I'm on no medication. Other things that synthetic causes is
1. Abnormal sleep pattern. I can't stay asleep anymore through the night. It's sad. 2. I seem not to care about things as much ( this is a good thing ) 3. My red blood cell count was abnormally high. They didn't know why and wanted to test me for polycythemia Vera. Since quitting my count is back in the normal range. ( they don't know how it went back to normal ) . I do though. It was from quitting synthetic
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: Ifishhigh]
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You smoked that shit for 2 years?! Yea, no wonder. It will take you years to get back to baseline. I'd say stop fucking with drugs until you feel normal again.
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I wonder if my previous post got ignored..? Bru, I smoked that shit every day, all day for at least 4 years. I started when I was in Iraq and couldn't get pot if my life depended on it. Literally a bag a day, at least. There is light at the end of this man, be patient. You will be fine bru!! Its time for a hiatus
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: Ifishhigh]
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Ifishhigh said: I'm not a liar and I'm not looking for attention. I tried tripping again and failed once Again. I've grown shrooms and ate them a bunch it times and felt nothing. I tried potent dealer shrooms and felt nothing. I prepaired a foot of fresh bridgesii and felt nothing. I've tried several alcohol extractions of powdered / potent cactus and felt nothing. I'm on no medication. I also can't get High on thc. Not even dabs. I'm positive this has all been caused by smoking synthetic cannabis. That stuff can change your brain chemistry permanently. Or at least kill receptors. Again weed or psychedelics have no effect on me. Read my previous threads or look at my pics. I have pics of cactus and shrooms to prove I'm not bull shitting. I'm not on or never have been on any medication. If you get anything out of reading this thread let it be to stay away from synthetic weed.
I know. I'm sorry this happened to you. Research Chemicals are dangerous for this very reason. We still dont know nearly enough. Atleast your still in good health, regardless of psychedelics not being effective on you. Some people react differently because of certain genetic/anotomical/biochemical differences in the body of each individual and combined with drugs its a crapshoot for the ones who are slightly more different.
But remember this in 1 years time all nature goes through its seasonal changes - and that includes you. Stay sober for a year and healthy and you may have a chance at healing. Best to you.
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Wow that's fucked. Stay of the synths. You might have caused permanent damage but the brain is pretty resilient. Stay clean and sober, eat well, exercise and keep your brain active. In a few years you will probably be back and ready to party. Stick with the naturals though, real weed, mushrooms etc.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: Ifishhigh]
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Ifishhigh said: I'm not a liar and I'm not looking for attention. I tried tripping again and failed once Again. I've grown shrooms and ate them a bunch it times and felt nothing. I tried potent dealer shrooms and felt nothing. I prepaired a foot of fresh bridgesii and felt nothing. I've tried several alcohol extractions of powdered / potent cactus and felt nothing. I'm on no medication. I also can't get High on thc. Not even dabs. I'm positive this has all been caused by smoking synthetic cannabis. That stuff can change your brain chemistry permanently. Or at least kill receptors. Again weed or psychedelics have no effect on me. Read my previous threads or look at my pics. I have pics of cactus and shrooms to prove I'm not bull shitting. I'm not on or never have been on any medication. If you get anything out of reading this thread let it be to stay away from synthetic weed.
Sorry dude. Hopefully you're done smoking that shit!
Just curious but have you had any luck with LSD? I haven't been able to get a good trip from shrooms in over a year and the last two mescaline batches I made didn't deliver. But L does every single time. I'm wondering though if I've over done it because I have no other theory on why I can't trip on anything else.
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If Mushrooms doesn't work then LSD probably won't work either. DMT is different, however, and is probably your best shot at a tryptamine, it is actively transported rather than by diffusion, works a bit differently.
Other than that salvia might work.
As for brain repair, you should be taking either piracetam or noopept daily, and agmatine a few days a week. They are the best science can give for neuroprotection and normalizing everything after brain damage.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: Jiemba]
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That would mean you can't dream if you can't trip. Every animal dreams. You've got some type of mental block broski.
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Tripping and dreaming are not the same thing. They do not follow the same set of neurochemical processes.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: healing]
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Have other people reported this sort of thing happening with sythentic cannabis?
They do sound like seriously nasty chemicals and I'm glad I never came across them weed alone can be scary enough if I go one toke over, God only knows what some kind of demented super weed would do to someone like me!
What is the actual feeling when you take synthetic weed? Does it get one stoned in the same way as cannabis or much more stoned with simply more side effects?
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: healing]
#23896141 - 12/05/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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healing said: Tripping and dreaming are not the same thing. They do not follow the same set of neurochemical processes.
Serotonin makes you dream, psilocin binds to the serotonin receptor, therefore if psilocin does not work, neither does serotonin.
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It's a little bit more complicated than that. Psilocin only binds to a few types of serotonin receptors, and there are many different types of serotonin receptors.
Although you are correct in thinking that the type of brain damage that OP is speculating has happened would have some effect on brain function, it just wouldn't necessarily mean that he couldn't dream.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: healing]
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There's different types of serotonin receptors? I didn't know that. How though? It's the same transmitter fitting into the same chemical. Are they just around different parts of the brain?
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Yeah, they're located in different parts of the brain and throughout the rest of the body. They are all activated by serotonin, but they are activated in different ways, they have different mechanisms by which they operate, they interact differently with different chemicals, and they're responsible for different functions within the brain and nervous system.
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Re: Last post I'll make [Re: healing]
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Interesting. Still, i don't see how he could dream if another chemical that looks exactly like it to the receptor, won't bind to that recptor.
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Because not all of the different types of serotonin receptors function as part of the process of sleeping and dreaming. Most of the different types of serotonin receptors have nothing to do with dreaming. We don't know which receptors have been damaged, because we don't even know that any receptors have been damaged, it's just speculation on the part of OP so we can't say exactly what kind of effects the speculated damage would have.
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Edited by healing (12/07/16 01:57 AM)
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