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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: musiclover420]
#23803900 - 11/05/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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His policies would have collapsed the economy
Yeah and the good old "trickle down" system we have been using has done such a wonderful job of equally distributing wealth 
well, it was never meant to help the little guy...but neither does conserving that system, help him, nor does reducing public spending, help him -- but it'll all work itself out...the free market can't help but do that. though, it was never meant to be fair...and him, as a little guy, wouldn't gain anything from all this...unless he wanted to start playing a new role, like that of the "business man". well, in that case, it's a win-win, for him...otherwise though, it's just a matter of buying the notion of a slogan to get you through your day.
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: akira_akuma]
#23803924 - 11/05/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That is what I mean though "collapsed the economy" is such a broad term and by some standards it is already pretty close to happening considering how many people live in poverty.
So a new strategy might make the economy worse in some ways (higher taxes on the rich) but then it could actually start distributing wealth more efficiently.
I like to think he would have at least been a step in the right direction spending/ tax wise. Who knows he may not have been able to do shit really 
And I don't mean he would be incapable I mean the powers that be wouldn't let him. Which seems to be the case considering how he was screwed out of the race.
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: musiclover420]
#23803930 - 11/05/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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it's ok, when Trump changes nothing, then the right will begging for the change they wanted to see, albeit tacitly, with their hands under their buttocks as they sit and spin.
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: musiclover420]
#23803932 - 11/05/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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His policies would have collapsed the economy
Yeah and the good old "trickle down" system we have been using has done such a wonderful job of equally distributing wealth 
Explain to me how shifting a massive amount more $$$ to govt and somehow it helping the lower classes ISN'T trickle down
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23803960 - 11/05/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Explain to me how shifting a massive amount more $$$ to govt and somehow it helping the lower classes ISN'T trickle down 
Are you saying Bernie would have done that? Care to give us some evidence? 
Shifting a "massive amount more $$$" to and from what? 

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akira_akuma said: it's ok, when Trump changes nothing, then the right will begging for the change they wanted to see, albeit tacitly, with their hands under their buttocks as they sit and spin.
I really hope that isn't what it takes but clearly at this point we have 2 downhill paths laid out. You are right though either way it should spark more flames of unrest.
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: musiclover420]
#23803970 - 11/05/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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by the people for the people....except if it's public spending, then it's only conservatives who have a say in anything, because doing anything differently would upset baby and he would cry.
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: musiclover420]
#23803981 - 11/05/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Explain to me how shifting a massive amount more $$$ to govt and somehow it helping the lower classes ISN'T trickle down 
Are you saying Bernie would have done that? Care to give us some evidence? 
Shifting a "massive amount more $$$" to and from what? 

How do you think he planned to pay for all his "programs"?
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23803989 - 11/05/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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to and from what, hostile, it's a simple question.
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23803993 - 11/05/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: How do you think he planned to pay for all his "programs"?
Where do you think we pay for all government programs? There is a thing called federal spending and it is possible to re allocate parts of our budget...
So say we want to spend more on education, instead of literally spending more we can just spend less elsewhere... Like on our insanely over bloated military for example.
It is not that complicated man... We waste so much money in so many places as it is, we need to start spending more in places where it matters and will help people.
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: musiclover420]
#23804006 - 11/05/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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but what about stopping Hillary's WW3? if only there was a way...to do that...*looks hard at military spending*
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: akira_akuma]
#23804050 - 11/05/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Either way WW3 seems very possible
They both are so corrupt and manipulative they are bound to screw over the wrong person eventually if they haven't already...
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: musiclover420]
#23804065 - 11/05/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: How do you think he planned to pay for all his "programs"?
Where do you think we pay for all government programs? There is a thing called federal spending and it is possible to re allocate parts of our budget...
So say we want to spend more on education, instead of literally spending more we can just spend less elsewhere... Like on our insanely over bloated military for example.
It is not that complicated man... We waste so much money in so many places as it is, we need to start spending more in places where it matters and will help people.
Right, with 20 TRILLION in debt and a 500 billion dollar a year deficit, yeah, we can increase spending by 2 TRILLION a year without massive tax increases, just keep printing it! Right?
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23804112 - 11/05/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can somebody explain to me why Trump or Hillary start WW3?
Never understand why people said that.
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23804236 - 11/05/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Right, with 20 TRILLION in debt and a 500 billion dollar a year deficit, yeah, we can increase spending by 2 TRILLION a year without massive tax increases, just keep printing it! Right?
way to avoid what he actually said, fix muh debt fix muh problems. that's as far as your swill you've shot will help you take the thought process. you know what'd fix the debt...make the rich actually pay their taxes. either that, or reform the motivations of the country.
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Patlal said: Can somebody explain to me why Trump or Hillary start WW3?
Never understand why people said that.
Hillary has said things that lead people to believe she is a chicken-hawk...and that she might bring the US into more interventionist warzones.
Trump is...likely to be pushed in that direction too.
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23804273 - 11/05/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Right, with 20 TRILLION in debt and a 500 billion dollar a year deficit, yeah, we can increase spending by 2 TRILLION a year without massive tax increases, just keep printing it! Right?
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: musiclover420]
#23804306 - 11/05/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It almost worked! Damn you Hildabeast!
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23804312 - 11/05/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why don't you try actually making some logical points backed with this thing we like to call EVIDENCE
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: musiclover420]
#23804328 - 11/05/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why don't you try actually making some logical points backed with this thing we like to call EVIDENCE

Why don't you?
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23804339 - 11/05/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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you're talking about the realm of economic policy, the realm of shadows and ghosts. you can't prove anything...and neither can he. you don't have answers without implementation. to claim you know is asinine. no one knows. it's a prediction that is being given within an economic plan.
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Re: So, Bernie Sanders was a Democratic plant. [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23804387 - 11/05/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Why don't you?
What claims have I made that need to be backed up? You are the one stating a bunch of opinion as fact...
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