|
JustForToday
New Life, New Beginnings


Registered: 09/08/14
Posts: 3,186
Last seen: 6 years, 5 months
|
Donald Trump was right about one thing 6
#23801500 - 11/04/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Obamacare is a fucking disaster. I pay almost 190 a month for my insurance. Its top notch shit and even that's expensive for me.. So anyways I thought it would be cheaper through them.. the most sorry least expensive plan is going to run me 250 a month.. high as fuck deductables. High copays and these plans don't even cover some of my meds. What in the mother fuck is this bullshit? I had obama care before paying 112 a month for a cigna where I paid little to nothing on copays.. It completely made all the good insurance companies pull out.. now we're left for nothing.. all Obama did was a put a fucking band aid on a fucking leg that got cut off.. Good job.
YOU NEED TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF OFFICE YOU LIBERAL MOOSLIM FUCKTARD.
Sincerely, Merica.
-------------------- Hey Shae, Are you still doing that hand thing? I heard you was doing that hand thing today. Oh God what is that?!
|
sh4d0ws
LSx


Registered: 02/26/08
Posts: 12,086
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: JustForToday]
#23801514 - 11/04/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
|
hostileuniverse
Stranger



Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 7 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: sh4d0ws]
#23801543 - 11/04/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Here come the liberal apologists to claim how awesome it is...
|
shadyy
aHhahhHA


Registered: 09/08/08
Posts: 21,330
Loc: winchestertonfieldville i...
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: JustForToday] 1
#23801553 - 11/04/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Hey JFT, Are you still doing that hand thing?
--------------------
ga ga ga eets eets how you gone be mad on vacation? MONICA COULDN'T TELL TIME UNTIL SHE WAS 13
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: JustForToday] 2
#23801561 - 11/04/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Just heard that Trump converted to Islam, he was seen fervently ministering to a mosque in Missouri about the need for a Jihad against the west. He even pulled out an AK and started firing into the air while yelling "Death to America, Long live the Caliphate"
Looks like you guys bet on the wrong horse, terrorist sympathizers
|
beforethedawn
Registered: 06/19/16
Posts: 1,859
Last seen: 4 years, 5 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Repertoire89]
#23801566 - 11/04/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Repertoire89 said: Just heard that Trump converted to Islam, he was seen fervently ministering to a mosque in Missouri about the need for a Jihad against the west. He even pulled out an AK and started firing into the air while yelling "Death to America, Long live the Caliphate"
Looks like you guys bet on the wrong horse, terrorist sympathizers
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
-------------------- Hostile humankind Can't you see you're fucking blind?
|
hostileuniverse
Stranger



Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 7 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Repertoire89]
#23801576 - 11/04/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Repertoire89 said: Just heard that Trump converted to Islam, he was seen fervently ministering to a mosque in Missouri about the need for a Jihad against the west. He even pulled out an AK and started firing into the air while yelling "Death to America, Long live the Caliphate"
Looks like you guys bet on the wrong horse, terrorist sympathizers
Did you get that from MSNBC? Sounds like the shit they been putting out lately
|
tyrannicalrex
Strange R



Registered: 04/24/03
Posts: 38,323
Loc: subtropics
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: JustForToday]
#23802373 - 11/05/16 02:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Mine was like 50 and some change a month for a long time (med coverage,gold, 500 deduct, killer coverage to me), never had a prob with it at all. My mate works for an insurance company so I don't worry about it all now.
|
deadwk
00101011


Registered: 06/17/09
Posts: 8,890
Loc: Canada, eh?
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: tyrannicalrex] 8
#23802388 - 11/05/16 02:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
What's Donald Trumps plan for medical care after he removes Obamacare? Oh right nothing
|
abltsandwich
JFK = Jelly Donut




Registered: 06/16/09
Posts: 11,537
Loc: Dildoville
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: deadwk]
#23802415 - 11/05/16 03:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Worse than the Obamacare fiasco is how he sidestepped congress and the senate with an executive order, undermining the checks and balances system completely. I know he's not the first president to issue an executive order, but the manner in which he did it sets a dangerous precedent.
|
Adden

Registered: 06/04/03
Posts: 39,201
Loc:
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: JustForToday]
#23802478 - 11/05/16 04:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Hey JFT, did you ever end up getting back together with that married woman?
|
moonrockmushy
High on Spite



Registered: 07/01/05
Posts: 19,067
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: JustForToday]
#23802552 - 11/05/16 06:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
You need to get a job and stop sucking at the government's teat you lazy ingrate. Obamacare was great. I payed for nothing. Private insurance sucks.
|
Prisoner#1
Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!


Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 193,665
Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutSuck
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: deadwk] 1
#23802967 - 11/05/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
thedeadwalkk said: What's Donald Trumps plan for medical care after he removes Obamacare? Oh right nothing
obamacare doesnt provide medical care, it's a mandatory insurance law in which the feds take money from you if you dont have insurance that you cannot afford
of course you're welcome to try and prove me wrong if you think obamacare is something other than a scheme to force people to buy insurance
|
Prisoner#1
Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!


Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 193,665
Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutSuck
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: abltsandwich]
#23802972 - 11/05/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
abltsandwich said: Worse than the Obamacare fiasco is how he sidestepped congress and the senate with an executive order, undermining the checks and balances system completely. I know he's not the first president to issue an executive order, but the manner in which he did it sets a dangerous precedent.
what the hell are you even talking about?
|
hostileuniverse
Stranger



Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 7 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23803060 - 11/05/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Trump has been right about a lot,

But dems will still insist he is wrong about everything else
|
akira_akuma
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι ὕψιστος φιλεῖ


Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 82,455
Loc: Onypeirophóros
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23803201 - 11/05/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
hostileuniverse said: Here come the liberal apologists to claim how awesome it is...
no. here comes the "look how JFT parasitically attaches himself to a cause because his life is now empty because he lost his faith and needs to make curses at something to make himself feel important" people.
Quote:
hostileuniverse said: Trump has been right about a lot,

his insights were obvious to everyone, though. people just needed confirmation with evidence...no surprise there.
everyone knew there'd be collusion against Sanders, merely on the precedent of how much opposition he had to fight against concerning the PAC contributions.
|
moonrockmushy
High on Spite



Registered: 07/01/05
Posts: 19,067
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: akira_akuma]
#23803203 - 11/05/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
nailed it
|
Patlal
You ask too many questions



Registered: 10/09/10
Posts: 44,797
Loc: Ottawa
Last seen: 16 hours, 37 minutes
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23803207 - 11/05/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Can someone give me another example of how Obamacare is becoming more expensive (other than OP)?
How high is your deductibles?
--------------------
|
akira_akuma
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι ὕψιστος φιλεῖ


Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 82,455
Loc: Onypeirophóros
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Patlal]
#23803220 - 11/05/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
insurance is more akin to the devil than anything any christian ever waved a stick at.
|
hostileuniverse
Stranger



Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 7 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: akira_akuma]
#23803225 - 11/05/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
hostileuniverse said: Trump has been right about a lot,

But dems will still insist he is wrong about everything else 
Quote:
akira_akuma said:
Quote:
hostileuniverse said: Here come the liberal apologists to claim how awesome it is...
no. here comes the "look how JFT parasitically attaches himself to a cause because his life is now empty because he lost his faith and needs to make curses at something to make himself feel important" people.
Quote:
hostileuniverse said: Trump has been right about a lot,

his insights were obvious to everyone, though. people just needed confirmation with evidence...no surprise there.
everyone knew there'd be collusion against Sanders, merely on the precedent of how much opposition he had to fight against concerning the PAC contributions.
Thanks for proving me right little fella
|
hostileuniverse
Stranger



Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 7 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: akira_akuma]
#23803229 - 11/05/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
akira_akuma said: insurance is more akin to the devil than anything any christian ever waved a stick at.
Yes, how horrible it is to offer a service that actually benefits people
|
moonrockmushy
High on Spite



Registered: 07/01/05
Posts: 19,067
|
|
Including the Vatican?
|
akira_akuma
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι ὕψιστος φιλεῖ


Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 82,455
Loc: Onypeirophóros
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23803273 - 11/05/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Thanks for proving me right little fella
about what? nothing? nothing isn't a thing you can grasp, hostile.
Quote:
hostileuniverse said:
Quote:
akira_akuma said: insurance is more akin to the devil than anything any christian ever waved a stick at.
Yes, how horrible it is to offer a service that actually benefits people 
i never said it was horrible, nor that it doesn't benefit people. if something drastic happens in your life, it's good to have support, and given that there is such support, why not take it.
but it is like the devil though...you get scammed into paying more for the premiums than is necessary to benefit, and you get forced into paying for insurance even if you don't require or wish it (ie, to drive, for example), and it's got tons of bureaucratic red-tape making it hard to make one's insurance a feasible cost-benefit for the buyer (where the insurance companies just make their income from your necessitous decision)
it's treated as if it's there to gyp you, when it should be there to provide assistance to those, once bereaved, that need financial help to cover funeral costs, and survive, say if someone loses a dear family member, or breadwinner.
easy way to make more money off of suffering is to make insurance premiums an objective over providing healthcare. 
but you can't comprehend this kind of thing...it's only one of two ways with you hostile, either misapprehending or overconscientious to the point of absurdity.
ie, you don't want to get gyped (in anything), yet, don't realise that healthcare is only readily available to those willing to be gyped; even though health care is a necessity, and premiums aren't.
|
hostileuniverse
Stranger



Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 7 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: akira_akuma]
#23803327 - 11/05/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
"Mama said crocodiles so angry cause they got all them teeth and no toothbrush"
That's literally how every one of your posts sound to me
|
circularvortex
Bass Head



Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 12,148
Loc:
Last seen: 5 months, 14 hours
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Patlal]
#23803333 - 11/05/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Patlal said: Can someone give me another example of how Obamacare is becoming more expensive (other than OP)?
How high is your deductibles?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/05/upshot/see-obamacare-rates-for-every-county-in-the-country.html
-------------------- No statements made in any post or message by myself should be construed to mean that I am now, or have ever been, participating in or considering participation in any activities in violation of any local, state, federal, or fashion police laws. All posts are works of fiction. For well you know that its a fool who plays it cool By making his world a little colder. Under closer inspection I realised it was a funky ball of tits from outer space.
 
|
akira_akuma
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι ὕψιστος φιλεῖ


Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 82,455
Loc: Onypeirophóros
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
|
|
Quote:
hostileuniverse said: That's literally how every one of your posts sound to me
it's good to know that i confound you.
|
Patlal
You ask too many questions



Registered: 10/09/10
Posts: 44,797
Loc: Ottawa
Last seen: 16 hours, 37 minutes
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: circularvortex] 1
#23803376 - 11/05/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
circularvortex said:
Quote:
Patlal said: Can someone give me another example of how Obamacare is becoming more expensive (other than OP)?
How high is your deductibles?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/05/upshot/see-obamacare-rates-for-every-county-in-the-country.html
Damm... Insurance companies must be laughing all the way to the bank.
--------------------
|
Konyap

Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 33,945
Loc: Planet Piss
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Patlal]
#23803383 - 11/05/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
obamacare won't get me to my old doctors for basic appointments but it paid my ambulance ride and doctor bill at least
|
hostileuniverse
Stranger



Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 7 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Patlal]
#23803412 - 11/05/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Patlal said:
Quote:
circularvortex said:
Quote:
Patlal said: Can someone give me another example of how Obamacare is becoming more expensive (other than OP)?
How high is your deductibles?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/05/upshot/see-obamacare-rates-for-every-county-in-the-country.html
Damm... Insurance companies must be laughing all the way to the bank.
Not really
Law of supply and demand, as demand for their product went up, so did the price.
Obamacare increased the demand, but the subsidies aren't paying enough to cover the added cost that they are required to cover. So in turn, they have raised premiums just to stay in business. Many companies are pulling out of the exchanges, because the math isn't working.
|
akira_akuma
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι ὕψιστος φιλεῖ


Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 82,455
Loc: Onypeirophóros
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
|
|
tell me that isn't the devil in the details.
|
Konyap

Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 33,945
Loc: Planet Piss
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: akira_akuma]
#23803492 - 11/05/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
lo and behold the people without insurance took care of their bodies the least
d'uh
|
daytripper05
Psychonaut




Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 6,962
Loc: In my garden
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Konyap]
#23803518 - 11/05/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
If I were to get Obamacare, I would get no subsidies and have like a $12,000 deductible for the shittiest plan. My mom's company has private healthcare through work, but after 2017 rates are going up 30% to the point the company can't even afford it and will be dropping benefits entirely because they can't afford it. Instead, it will take the money not being spent on healthcare, and give the employees "a raise" so they can buy their own healthcare outside of work.
This scenario will happening to hundreds of thousands of businesses over the next 2 years. Obamacare is a disaster beyond epic proportions. The only people that support it are the few people that get the subsidies to make it affordable. I've been saying it was a scam since 2008. I refuse to pay for mandated healthcare because eventually it WILL get repealed because nobody can afford it and the liberal media and the vocal minority that benefit from it will be drowned out by the noise created by actual tax paying Americans that are being ripped of by our government.
These are facts, not opinions.
|
Konyap

Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 33,945
Loc: Planet Piss
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: daytripper05]
#23803531 - 11/05/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
it's not just them we could cut health care cost exponentially with generic drugs
you know what happens when you have a baby you sit and a bed and nurses puff your pillow while the wife does all the work somehow this equates to 30,000 dollars even without a c-section
then the nurses bitch and complain about min wagers are getting a raise that the gov't had to force on everyone. because to this day outside of small business a 15 dollar min wage in five years means you'll be making 9 dollars today lol
Edited by Konyap (11/05/16 02:26 PM)
|
Burke Dennings
baby merchant

Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 81,641
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Konyap]
#23803540 - 11/05/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Konyap said:
you know what happens when you have a baby you sit and a bed and nurses puff your pillow while the wife does all the work
You've been in the OR for a lot of births, konyap?
|
daytripper05
Psychonaut




Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 6,962
Loc: In my garden
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Konyap]
#23803541 - 11/05/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
The last people I would blame would be the nurses.... I think Obamcare terrible and make no excuses for the liberal agenda, but it's not the nurses fault. Lol. How did you come to that conclussion?
|
daytripper05
Psychonaut




Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 6,962
Loc: In my garden
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Burke Dennings]
#23803548 - 11/05/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Burke Dennings said:
Quote:
Konyap said:
you know what happens when you have a baby you sit and a bed and nurses puff your pillow while the wife does all the work
You've been in the OR for a lot of births, konyap?
Lol right... When I spent 6 days in the hospital with a triple skull fracture which I damn near died from in 2006, the nurses were the only people that actually did anything at all to make me feel better. If I clicked the button, they were there with anything I need in minutes. The doctors on the other hand....
|
Burke Dennings
baby merchant

Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 81,641
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: daytripper05]
#23803558 - 11/05/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Nurses are great.
|
moonrockmushy
High on Spite



Registered: 07/01/05
Posts: 19,067
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Konyap]
#23803872 - 11/05/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Konyap said: obamacare won't get me to my old doctors for basic appointments but it paid my ambulance ride and doctor bill at least
Yeah that was the one drawback I found. The few doctors I could find accepting new patients in my area all seem to be rated one star with horrible reviews. I would just go to urgent care any problem I had and they would take care of it no charge just walk in walk out. They were alot nicer to me than GP doctors too.
|
hostileuniverse
Stranger



Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 7 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23803879 - 11/05/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
The more you let govt run/control your healthcare, the worse it will be
Many tried to warn you
|
moonrockmushy
High on Spite



Registered: 07/01/05
Posts: 19,067
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23803886 - 11/05/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
My healthcare is fine. It costs more than I like but so does my car and rent and food and gas. Welcome to corporate style capitalism.
|
daytripper05
Psychonaut




Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 6,962
Loc: In my garden
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#23803974 - 11/05/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
You have a choice to buy a car, cheap or expensive. It's your right to not have a car and the all the things that come along with it. There is no tax for people that choose not have one.
Healthcare on the other hand... You can't justify liking your own healthcare to prop up a system that hurts more than it helps. There are a few good things in the Obamacare that make sense, like pre-existing conditions and allowing peoples kids to stay on their plan until they are 26. That's about it. The other 2000 pages of the law aren't worth the paper to wipe our ass with.
|
akira_akuma
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι ὕψιστος φιλεῖ


Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 82,455
Loc: Onypeirophóros
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: daytripper05]
#23803984 - 11/05/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
you read it all? or did you just have someone grok it for you, then you battened down the hatches?
|
Konyap

Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 33,945
Loc: Planet Piss
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: akira_akuma]
#23804003 - 11/05/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
No matter what happens it will still be the same shit country is too big and rich to give us any good services anymore
so vote for hilary and watch your doctors office get a little browner or vote for trump and make the country look like a walmart parking lot
either way you lose
|
akira_akuma
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι ὕψιστος φιλεῖ


Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 82,455
Loc: Onypeirophóros
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Konyap] 1
#23804013 - 11/05/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|

harumph! except the winners, that is!
|
moonrockmushy
High on Spite



Registered: 07/01/05
Posts: 19,067
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: daytripper05] 1
#23804032 - 11/05/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
daytripper05 said: You have a choice to buy a car, cheap or expensive. It's your right to not have a car and the all the things that come along with it. There is no tax for people that choose not have one.
Healthcare on the other hand... You can't justify liking your own healthcare to prop up a system that hurts more than it helps. There are a few good things in the Obamacare that make sense, like pre-existing conditions and allowing peoples kids to stay on their plan until they are 26. That's about it. The other 2000 pages of the law aren't worth the paper to wipe our ass with.
No the taxes for people without health care gets thrown onto the taxes of working people when they go to the hospital and don't pay their bill. That is a huge problem so people need to be insured.
Is it a scam? Sure, but so ain't everything else these days. I hope the people who want the right to go uninsured will show up with loads of cash when they get injured, or just do everyone a favor and just die.
|
hostileuniverse
Stranger



Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 7 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Konyap]
#23804058 - 11/05/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Konyap said:
so vote for hilary and watch your doctors office get a little browner or vote for trump and make the country look like a walmart parking lot
The fact that people actually think like this is everything that's wrong with this fucking country, but that's what you get when a large portion starts getting their news from comedy shows
|
daytripper05
Psychonaut




Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 6,962
Loc: In my garden
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: akira_akuma]
#23804085 - 11/05/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
akira_akuma said: you read it all? or did you just have someone grok it for you, then you battened down the hatches?
Of course I didn't read it all, and neither any of Democrats that voted for it. I don't know what point you are trying to make, but it's not a good one. But I don't have to read the letter of the law to read the reports of massive hikes in premiums and deductibles being reporting be millions of people.
When the law gets so cryptic that even the people writing the laws can interpret it in different ways, we know we have a massive problem in our government and society. A common sense approach to legislation is using the common language to write sensible laws that can be defined in a document that can be read by anyone. The politicians now are writing these complex laws because that's how they keep their job. It doesn't actually help the American people as we are seeing with massive hikes in increased healthcare costs.
You guys literally continually point the finger at Republicans for everything but refuse to criticize anything Democratic party is doing. The John Baner's, Mitch McConnels', Pauls Ryan's of the Republican party are all political hacks just as much the Nancy Pelosi's, Harry Reid's, and Elizabeth Warren's. You can throw the Bush's, Clinton's, and the Obama's in the same group of cronies as far as I'm concerned. It's been one political machine after another for decades and nothing gets accomplished.
The difference is I, along with other libertarians and true conservatives, am willing to criticize them all equally. The political establishment has been failing us for over 20 years. I would say longer, but I am only 30, and can't speak to the past. But the older I get, the more I realize that the political machine isn't doing us a bit of good.
You can guys can post news sources, this or that. But I read 100's of articles a week and I make my own analysis, and l know for certain the politicians aren't doing us any favors. And growing the government and giving it more power isn't going to solve our problems. The same gov that has a massively failed drug war. The same gov that incarcerates it sown people at a higher rater than any other nation in the world. That's not the one I stand for.
One thing for sure, Hillary is the epitome of big government and more of the same bullshit we've had for 30 years.
|
Prisoner#1
Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!


Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 193,665
Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutSuck
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23804090 - 11/05/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
akira_akuma said:
Quote:
hostileuniverse said: Trump has been right about a lot,

his insights were obvious to everyone, though. people just needed confirmation with evidence...no surprise there.
everyone knew there'd be collusion against Sanders, merely on the precedent of how much opposition he had to fight against concerning the PAC contributions.
just exactly the thing a leftist, 'progressive' hillary supporter would say
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: daytripper05]
#23804104 - 11/05/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
daytripper05 said: And growing the government and giving it more power isn't going to solve our problems.
If you expect problems to go away by getting the government out of the picture, you need a history lesson.
The government is fucked up because people don't hold politicians accountable, and don't make informed decisions.
|
daytripper05
Psychonaut




Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 6,962
Loc: In my garden
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Repertoire89] 1
#23804126 - 11/05/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah that comment doesn't make any sense and provides no specific as to which part of human history I seem to be missing.
Obviously we don't hold politicians accountable, otherwise at the very least Hillary's case(s) would have been allowed to go to a grand jury, where people get to actually see the evidence accumulated against her to make an informed decision as to whether or not to indict her. Instead, it's political theatrics at best to ensure she gets the White House so they can continue to cover up their own scandals. Yeah that makes sense...
|
JustForToday
New Life, New Beginnings


Registered: 09/08/14
Posts: 3,186
Last seen: 6 years, 5 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23804180 - 11/05/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
moonrockmushy said: You need to get a job and stop sucking at the government's teat you lazy ingrate. Obamacare was great. I payed for nothing. Private insurance sucks.
I have a job at capital one that's how I get my insurance. Git gud niglet.
-------------------- Hey Shae, Are you still doing that hand thing? I heard you was doing that hand thing today. Oh God what is that?!
|
Crystal G



Registered: 06/05/07
Posts: 19,584
Loc: outer space
Last seen: 8 months, 6 days
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: daytripper05]
#23804189 - 11/05/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
daytripper05 said: You have a choice to buy a car, cheap or expensive. It's your right to not have a car and the all the things that come along with it. There is no tax for people that choose not have one.
Healthcare on the other hand... You can't justify liking your own healthcare to prop up a system that hurts more than it helps. There are a few good things in the Obamacare that make sense, like pre-existing conditions and allowing peoples kids to stay on their plan until they are 26. That's about it. The other 2000 pages of the law aren't worth the paper to wipe our ass with.
You really don't though. Because the ironic thing is that you need your car to get to your job so you can pay for your car and rent and healthcare and bills. The only time it's a "choice" to have a car is if you live in a metropolitan city with good public transportation.
|
akira_akuma
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι ὕψιστος φιλεῖ


Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 82,455
Loc: Onypeirophóros
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: JustForToday]
#23804196 - 11/05/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
But I don't have to read the letter of the law to read the reports of massive hikes in premiums and deductibles being reporting be millions of people.
so what about the hikes?
Quote:
just exactly the thing a leftist, 'progressive' hillary supporter would say
that everyone knew the DNC would collude with Clinton because Sanders had no PAC support and at the same time wanted money out of politics, while Hillary and her supporters didn't want money out, and didn't lack support from PAC donations?
|
daytripper05
Psychonaut




Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 6,962
Loc: In my garden
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Crystal G]
#23804210 - 11/05/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah, you really do... Nobody is forcing anyone to have a car. Totally off the point, but ironically I don't have a car right now actually, first time since I was 16. I sold it when I moved to CO recently. I don't live in a metropolitan area. I work from home. I don't need a car. I also don't have healthcare, and I said said "fuck you" to the IRS and didn't pay bullshit "tax" (fine) for not having it.
I don't see the point you are trying to make. I don't see why anyone should have to tell me to get healthcare. But somehow we are talking about a car...
|
akira_akuma
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι ὕψιστος φιλεῖ


Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 82,455
Loc: Onypeirophóros
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: akira_akuma]
#23804224 - 11/05/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
You can guys can post news sources, this or that. But I read 100's of articles a week and I make my own analysis, and l know for certain the politicians aren't doing us any favors.
us guys? dude...i am not posting any news sources to convince you that Hillary isn't a shit hawk... i only posted that you have no evidence that Sanders was given the money he used to buy that home...and you, however, have not given any evidence that he was, still. i know politicians are shit...that's why Trump, when he is turned politician, will be subject to the same scrutiny as everyone else, by anyone with a brain in their skull.
but the point is Sanders wasn't given any money by Clinton, all the evidence points to the fact that him and his wife afforded themselves it by selling their other residence. this is not tacit support for Clinton...to think so would be quite mad, and seeing things where there is nothing.
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: daytripper05]
#23804240 - 11/05/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
daytripper05 said: Yeah that comment doesn't make any sense and provides no specific as to which part of human history I seem to be missing.
Any point where a law or government agency was introduced to solve some problem...
Here's a quote from another thread on the same subject
Quote:
Repertoire89 said:
People and especially businesses, cannot govern themselves, this has been demonstrated time and again. The BLM and USDA exist because of the insane practices of ranchers and etc private interests. Then we have child labor laws and protections for disabled people (etc).
Libertarianism is a move away from the government having a hand, in a fundamentally run libertarian government there wouldn't be a BLM or USDA, so we would see the timber industry tear down whole states worth of lumber again, ranchers overgrazing and increasing soil degradation / desertification on an equal scale, etc. We also wouldn't have laws keeping children out of sweat factories, or those laws protecting gays/disabled etc, which exist for a reason.
Quote:
Obviously we don't hold politicians accountable, otherwise at the very least Hillary's case(s) would have been allowed to go to a grand jury, where people get to actually see the evidence accumulated against her to make an informed decision as to whether or not to indict her. Instead, it's political theatrics at best to ensure she gets the White House so they can continue to cover up their own scandals. Yeah that makes sense...
One example of many, but we agree on that much.
|
Bill_Oreilly
ANIMALS (the RAINBOW SERPENT)


Registered: 11/12/11
Posts: 26,370
Loc: Boston
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23804244 - 11/05/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:
abltsandwich said: Worse than the Obamacare fiasco is how he sidestepped congress and the senate with an executive order, undermining the checks and balances system completely. I know he's not the first president to issue an executive order, but the manner in which he did it sets a dangerous precedent.
what the hell are you even talking about?
I was hoping you would know, pris 
I felt so stupid reading that
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
|
Konyap

Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 33,945
Loc: Planet Piss
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Bill_Oreilly] 1
#23804253 - 11/05/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
trump doesnt' beleive in global warming one reason I'm not voting for him either
|
hostileuniverse
Stranger



Registered: 05/14/15
Posts: 8,602
Loc: 'Merica
Last seen: 6 years, 7 months
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Konyap]
#23804259 - 11/05/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Konyap said: trump doesnt' beleive in global warming one reason I'm not voting for him either
|
moonrockmushy
High on Spite



Registered: 07/01/05
Posts: 19,067
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: JustForToday]
#23804302 - 11/05/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
JustForToday said:
Quote:
moonrockmushy said: You need to get a job and stop sucking at the government's teat you lazy ingrate. Obamacare was great. I payed for nothing. Private insurance sucks.
I have a job at capital one that's how I get my insurance. Git gud niglet.
Ask for a raise then if they aren't paying you enough to get health insurance. Get payed not dismayed bitchlet.
|
Bill_Oreilly
ANIMALS (the RAINBOW SERPENT)


Registered: 11/12/11
Posts: 26,370
Loc: Boston
|
Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23804421 - 11/05/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
You guys are funny
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
|
|