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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23803229 - 11/05/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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insurance is more akin to the devil than anything any christian ever waved a stick at.




Yes, how horrible it is to offer a service that actually benefits people :facepalm:


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23803262 - 11/05/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Including the Vatican?


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23803273 - 11/05/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanks for proving me right little fella




about what? nothing? nothing isn't a thing you can grasp, hostile.

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insurance is more akin to the devil than anything any christian ever waved a stick at.




Yes, how horrible it is to offer a service that actually benefits people :facepalm:




i never said it was horrible, nor that it doesn't benefit people. if something drastic happens in your life, it's good to have support, and given that there is such support, why not take it.

but it is like the devil though...you get scammed into paying more for the premiums than is necessary to benefit, and you get forced into paying for insurance even if you don't require or wish it (ie, to drive, for example), and it's got tons of bureaucratic red-tape making it hard to make one's insurance a feasible cost-benefit for the buyer (where the insurance companies just make their income from your necessitous decision)

it's treated as if it's there to gyp you, when it should be there to provide assistance to those, once bereaved, that need financial help to cover funeral costs, and survive, say if someone loses a dear family member, or breadwinner.

easy way to make more money off of suffering is to make insurance premiums an objective over providing healthcare. :shrug:

but you can't comprehend this kind of thing...it's only one of two ways with you hostile, either misapprehending or overconscientious to the point of absurdity.

ie, you don't want to get gyped (in anything), yet, don't realise that healthcare is only readily available to those willing to be gyped; even though health care is a necessity, and premiums aren't.


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23803327 - 11/05/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

"Mama said crocodiles so angry cause they got all them teeth and no toothbrush"

That's literally how every one of your posts sound to me:lol:


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Patlal]
    #23803333 - 11/05/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Can someone give me another example of how Obamacare is becoming more expensive (other than OP)?

How high is your deductibles?




http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/05/upshot/see-obamacare-rates-for-every-county-in-the-country.html


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23803364 - 11/05/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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That's literally how every one of your posts sound to me:lol:



it's good to know that i confound you. :yesnod:


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: circularvortex] * 1
    #23803376 - 11/05/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Can someone give me another example of how Obamacare is becoming more expensive (other than OP)?

How high is your deductibles?




http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/05/upshot/see-obamacare-rates-for-every-county-in-the-country.html




Damm... Insurance companies must be laughing all the way to the bank.


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Patlal]
    #23803383 - 11/05/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

obamacare won't get me to my old doctors for basic appointments but it paid my ambulance ride and doctor bill at least:shrug:


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Patlal]
    #23803412 - 11/05/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Can someone give me another example of how Obamacare is becoming more expensive (other than OP)?

How high is your deductibles?




http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/05/upshot/see-obamacare-rates-for-every-county-in-the-country.html




Damm... Insurance companies must be laughing all the way to the bank.




Not really

Law of supply and demand, as demand for their product went up, so did the price.

Obamacare increased the demand,  but the subsidies aren't paying enough to cover the added cost that they are required to cover. So in turn, they have raised premiums just to stay in business. Many companies are pulling out of the exchanges, because the math isn't working.


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23803455 - 11/05/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

tell me that isn't the devil in the details. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23803492 - 11/05/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

lo and behold the people without insurance took care of their bodies the least

d'uh


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Konyap]
    #23803518 - 11/05/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If I were to get Obamacare, I would get no subsidies and have like a $12,000 deductible for the shittiest plan. My mom's company has private healthcare through work, but after 2017 rates are going up 30% to the point the company can't even afford it and will be dropping benefits entirely because they can't afford it. Instead, it will take the money not being spent on healthcare, and give the employees "a raise" so they can buy their own healthcare outside of work.

This scenario will happening to hundreds of thousands of businesses over the next 2 years. Obamacare is a disaster beyond epic proportions. The only people that support it are the few people that get the subsidies to make it affordable. I've been saying it was a scam since 2008. I refuse to pay for mandated healthcare because eventually it WILL get repealed because nobody can afford it and the liberal media and the vocal minority that benefit from it will be drowned out by the noise created by actual tax paying Americans that are being ripped of by our government.

These are facts, not opinions.


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: daytripper05]
    #23803531 - 11/05/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

it's not just them
we could cut health care cost exponentially with generic drugs

you know what happens when you have a baby
you sit and a bed and nurses puff your pillow while the wife does all the work
somehow this equates to 30,000 dollars even without a c-section

then the nurses bitch and complain about min wagers are getting a raise that the gov't had to force on everyone. because to this day outside of small business a 15 dollar min wage in five years means you'll be making 9 dollars today lol


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Konyap]
    #23803540 - 11/05/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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you know what happens when you have a baby
you sit and a bed and nurses puff your pillow while the wife does all the work





You've been in the OR for a lot of births, konyap?


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Konyap]
    #23803541 - 11/05/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The last people I would blame would be the nurses.... I think Obamcare terrible and make no excuses for the liberal agenda, but it's not the nurses fault. Lol. How did you come to that conclussion?


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23803548 - 11/05/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Konyap said:

you know what happens when you have a baby
you sit and a bed and nurses puff your pillow while the wife does all the work





You've been in the OR for a lot of births, konyap?




Lol right... When I spent 6 days in the hospital with a triple skull fracture which I damn near died from in 2006, the nurses were the only people that actually did anything at all to make me feel better. If I clicked the button, they were there with anything I need in minutes. The doctors on the other hand....


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: daytripper05]
    #23803558 - 11/05/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Nurses are great.


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: Konyap]
    #23803872 - 11/05/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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obamacare won't get me to my old doctors for basic appointments but it paid my ambulance ride and doctor bill at least:shrug:




Yeah that was the one drawback I found.  The few doctors I could find accepting new patients in my area all seem to be rated one star with horrible reviews.  I would just go to urgent care any problem I had and they would take care of it no charge just walk in walk out.  They were alot nicer to me than GP doctors too.


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23803879 - 11/05/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The more you let govt run/control your healthcare, the worse it will be

Many tried to warn you :shrug:


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Re: Donald Trump was right about one thing [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23803886 - 11/05/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My healthcare is fine.  It costs more than I like but so does my car and rent and food and gas.  Welcome to corporate style capitalism.


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