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Ifishhigh
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First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read
#23800680 - 11/04/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I tried two times and I just felt a little weird to nothing. Tomorrow I will be taking twice the amount I have tried so I'm pretty sure this will be it. I'm a little nervous . The reason I'm doing mescaline for my first trip is because I here it is gentler with less of a mind fuck. I hope this is true. Because if I have a bad trip the 12 hour or more part would be a lot to deal with. If you read this far can you answer me this . Why is mescaline not used as much as shrooms or cid ? Whenever someone does talk about it , they say how great it is. Is it too mild for most people ? Is it too long ? Just curious . Most importantly is it too much for a first time tripper ?
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23800703 - 11/04/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haven't tried it yet myself, but a lot of it has to do with price and the commitment to downing a foot of cactus or more which is said to be unpleasant. I have a few cactus growing and you really can't harvest them that often. Frequency and simplicity is a thing for a lot of people but i can't imagine why cactus would be a bad start. Based on your individual constitution just be prepared for possible nausea or discomfort on the come up. While i haven't experienced mescaline that is a thing that varies from psychedelic to psychedelic and can often be confused with the beginning of a bad trip. It in and of itself is not though. I will feel terrible coming up a lot, only to have the most pleasant and wonderful peak. Just a heads up. That said don't be afraid about bad trips no matter what the substance. Set/setting is key. If bad trips happen you deal with them. It will be okay. Some of my worst trips were the most important. But they're rare. Of a hundred or so trips the only bad ones i've had were at massive doses or bad settings. Most of discomfort can be managed easily and in many cases it is downright euphoric. Trips aren't meant to be easy, but they are rewarding. Just be receptive to it and let it do its thing. Don't control it. Don't label it. Let it be what it is and it will work itself out to your benefit.
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#23800790 - 11/04/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Synthetic is hard to find and the plant material is unpleasant to consume and laborious to brew or extract. Plus I think that San Pedro is unknown to many people who are otherwise interested in drugs.
Let us know how it goes for you.
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: Grey Fox]
#23800804 - 11/04/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Never had mescaline.
My first trip I took an eighth of shrooms, layed in a field with my gf, looked at the stars and couldn't stop smiling/laughing. If you take a reasonable dose and have a good environment to be in than a bad trip is near impossible.
My first few experiences with psychs I wondered how anyone could have a bad time.
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: The Mycologist]
#23801485 - 11/04/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Will the 12 hours go by fast ? Will eating be weird or will I not even be hungry ? Has anyone ever took a dose and went too bed immediately? I can technically sleep 6 to 8. Hours And wake up and only trip 4 to 6 Hours? Lol stupid thinking I'm sure Any tips for a first timer ! I'm nervous for sure Will being nervous lead to a bad trip ? Or is it normal to be nervous
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23801496 - 11/04/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've never really heard of a bad mescaline trip.
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: 1314697]
#23802135 - 11/04/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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IME Bad trips are caused by being in a bad situation while tripping. If you are in a place where you wont be disturbed there should really be no fear of a bad trip. Tripping does not equate to scary, just relax go with the flow and everything will be fine.
If mescaline is anything like acid, it wont let you sleep through a majority of it lol, and you will probably not be too hungry throughout. The 12 hours is going to go by fairly fast because you will be enjoying yourself but by the end you will notice its been some time.
If you are worried about the duration then why not go with shrooms.
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: The Mycologist]
#23802339 - 11/05/16 01:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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My lord. I was so ready to go in a few hours and I just read the thread titled "why me " First off. I hope that guy feels better. What a shame. Second, please don't happen to me
Someone asked why I don't do shrooms for a shorter duration. Reason is intensity. I here cactus is leas intense. I like the sound of that
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23802526 - 11/05/16 05:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't worry about that "why me" post right before a trip. A lot of side effects from negative experiences can be filed under "unfinished business" as opposed to being anything directly toxic or permanent. Unfortunately we don't have the sort of structure in our culture to appropriately handle those situations and people can linger in that state a long time without adequate help. Fortunately they are very rare. Many on here have tripped hundreds of times at all sorts of doses without issue. Of course that's not to dismiss the possibility of bad outcome, but if you're going through with this you have no business holding on to that fear. It won't serve you on your journey. If you need to take another week to think about it that's fine to.
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#23802606 - 11/05/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bridgesii is very intense and long lasting in higher doses. I've only tried crappy pachanoi and hybrids that were dissapointing in potency so far. Mushrooms come on fairly quickly compared to cactus trips. Woodloving mushrooms can have residual effects the next day. Bridgesii the next 24 hrs after the first 20 or so of being out of it I was written off energy wise.
It didn't matter because I still felt blissed out. To me that's why they say cactus is gentler than mushrooms. Cactus has got me more out of it than any mushrooms but the trip is easier to handle and seems more spiritual to me. Anyway I'm still a cactus neophyte but intend to change that over the next few years.
Funny thing after tripping on mushrooms I have no problem talking about it. After a strong cactus trip where I felt each time I HAD to balance out the light and darkness in my psyche I am very reluctant to talk about it. Cactus to me is very special. It isn't an ego trip but a spiritual journey with a trusted friend that will show me right from wrong.
Each time I question why I need to draw attention to myself in the aftermath of a cactus trip. I feel like I don't need to rely on anyone or anything. It is a purifying experience.
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: Heyowana]
#23802701 - 11/05/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I give up
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23802712 - 11/05/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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???
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Ifishhigh
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: Grey Fox]
#23802747 - 11/05/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Didn't feel anything again. I can't trip I guess. Tried plenty of times now. Unexplainable
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23803055 - 11/05/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That sucks. I'm pretty sure you've already said that you're not on any meds. If thats the case then its either the cactus your using or your extraction method. I know I've already told you this before and a bunch of people have chimed in to disagree with me but let me tell you if you really want to feel the power of the cactus then the only way to go is to acquire a 12 inch cutting of potent bridgesii from a reliable vendor and just eat the damn thing. I guarantee you will trip balls. Forget about powders and dried chips and all that crap. 12 inch living cutting of bridgesii. Despine it, chop it up, peel it, eat it, and chase each swallow with ice cold citrus beverage. Eat the whole thing at once. It will be a shitty hour to endure, but the results are amazing. Using any other sort of cactus material and processing it through a brew or extraction will always cause some of the magic to disappear. Wait a few weeks and do it the real way and you will not be disappointed.
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: Grey Fox]
#23803208 - 11/05/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Get bridgessi
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#23803272 - 11/05/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eat an eighth of dried shrooms, just do it, you should feel that
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: Grey Fox]
#23803334 - 11/05/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Grey Fox said: That sucks. I'm pretty sure you've already said that you're not on any meds. If thats the case then its either the cactus your using or your extraction method. I know I've already told you this before and a bunch of people have chimed in to disagree with me but let me tell you if you really want to feel the power of the cactus then the only way to go is to acquire a 12 inch cutting of potent bridgesii from a reliable vendor and just eat the damn thing. I guarantee you will trip balls. Forget about powders and dried chips and all that crap. 12 inch living cutting of bridgesii. Despine it, chop it up, peel it, eat it, and chase each swallow with ice cold citrus beverage. Eat the whole thing at once. It will be a shitty hour to endure, but the results are amazing. Using any other sort of cactus material and processing it through a brew or extraction will always cause some of the magic to disappear. Wait a few weeks and do it the real way and you will not be disappointed.
I will try this in a month. Please be around ( on these boards ) when I do it . I will take plenty of pics and show you me eating the stuff. I don't eat the core I assume because it will be woody ?
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23803666 - 11/05/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eat it all. There may be some fibrous woody strands in there that you can take out as you're chewing. But try to eat it all. The core still contains significant amounts of alkaloids. Its all good to consume unless you find those fibrous strands as you're chewing and you can just discard those.
You don't really need to post photos or anything. Just let us know how it turns out for you.
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: Grey Fox]
#23804030 - 11/05/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Time to brag..i have 800mg of mescaline HCL left from 1200mg i bought years back
The only thing is the nausea..everytime like clockwork i experience stomach issues and puked like crazy when i took the 400mg. But lije jackson said..it always ends up being a great time. Just work through it
I have said this beforw but it was Mescaline HCL which made me switch my user name to Bill Oreilly. He came on my tv and told me all this crazy stuff about how mescaline was the greatest and all that psychotic stuff i go through
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Re: First trip going down tomorrow ( nervous ) please read [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23804896 - 11/05/16 09:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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if it's not working try some shrooms. You can start low after all
personally I prefer LSD though (never tried mescaline, not much of it up here in Kanukistan)
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