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OfflinePsilosopherr
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How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts
    #23800452 - 11/04/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Does pure psilocybin cause nausea and discomfort? People say that species other than cubensis are "cleaner," so I'm thinking cubes must contain some other compound other than psilocybin, psilocin, and baeocystin.

We know that tea removes it somewhat, but I've still had a real bad time on teas before.

I'm wondering what simple process might be worth trying to easily produce a cleaner trip. Boiling it longer, maybe proper straining is a factor, I'm sure I'll think of others. Maybe cooking it in some clay. (its been used to remove unwanted compounds from food in the past and by animals.)

Wanna brainstorm or are you actually going to sit there and spend your time telling me how dumb the idea is "for the greater good."


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23800467 - 11/04/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Have you tried the lemon tek? Grind up your dose, put it in a shotglass with lemon juice, wait 15 minutes and then slam it down.

To be fair I never got nausea from shrooms, but this stuff you start feeling it quickly, is less gross than chewing them, and sometimes I get the impression that its a brighter trip, but that could be placebo.


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23800487 - 11/04/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ime tea does not cause significant nausea, but some is still present. I've taken extracted psilocin as well (50%+ pure I'd guess by the dosage) and it was a little smoother, but nausea wise was no different than tea. I think the nausea is caused by a combination of processing the mushroom matter as well as the 5ht activity itself as there are a ton of 5ht receptors in your digestive tract.


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: krypto2000]
    #23800502 - 11/04/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

interesting, will have to look into that

And now that you mention it I guess I never have tried classic lemon tek. Done lemon tea plenty of times.


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23800572 - 11/04/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Using tea bags filled with finely powdered dried shrooms eliminates a large amount of the nausea that can be produced due to ingesting Chitin in the mushroom body. 

Adding another tea bag with certain herbs like ginger, orange peel, and chamomile , lemon balm, etc can also play a minor role in helping ease the stomach.


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23800578 - 11/04/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I always thought that the shroom tissue wasn't easily digestable and that is what causes the nausea. You could try an everclear extraction, when I had it this way I did not experience any stomach problems.


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23800601 - 11/04/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Fasting relieves nausea for me a little. Can't throw up if you have nothing to throw up. Still have an upset stomach.

One time I got this sample of pills in the mail that was supposed to help with nausea. I took them for a hangover and felt better. Forgot the name of the pills but I wonder if those would work.


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23800603 - 11/04/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Using tea bags filled with finely powdered dried shrooms eliminates a large amount of the nausea that can be produced due to ingesting Chitin in the mushroom body. 

Adding another tea bag with certain herbs like ginger, orange peel, and chamomile , lemon balm, etc can also play a minor role in helping ease the stomach.



I heard someone else say powdering was a factor, I think I've always just crumbled roughly. Wonder if that was my problem

I like the idea of finding a stomach calming herb that pairs well with it. Nice easy addition


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23800606 - 11/04/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

the only things I know about for nausea are dramamine (which i've never taken) and dried ginger (dry yourself), which has helped me on numerous occasions, and smoking a small amount of weed which helps with nausea.

Personally shrooms don't really mess with my stomach, lsa tends to destroy my stomach though


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23800611 - 11/04/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe some people have a mild allergy. I remember reading somewhere that 10% of people or so are allergic to psilocybes..i think


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23800625 - 11/04/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Powdering without a doubt will help. Any aid to digestion will help. That's why lemon tek helps, ground up (more surface area) and covered with acid before you even start chewing.


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #23800629 - 11/04/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I had good results with lemon essential oil diminishing cactus nausea.

Never tried it with mushrooms, but in fact the guys who wrote about it here at the shroomery talked about using it with psilos.
They say the beta-pinene inside the oil acts as a 5HT-3 antagonist in your stomache to block feelings of nausea, it should work with all the psychedelics..

Just pour a few drops oil in a glas of water and drink right before dosing. With cactus at least it diminishes the "pain" for a few, 3-4, hours.

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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23800650 - 11/04/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
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The Blind Ass said:
Using tea bags filled with finely powdered dried shrooms eliminates a large amount of the nausea that can be produced due to ingesting Chitin in the mushroom body. 

Adding another tea bag with certain herbs like ginger, orange peel, and chamomile , lemon balm, etc can also play a minor role in helping ease the stomach.



I heard someone else say powdering was a factor, I think I've always just crumbled roughly. Wonder if that was my problem

I like the idea of finding a stomach calming herb that pairs well with it. Nice easy addition




I use a blend of tea brand named Good Earth, Sweet and Spicy :

Ingredients: Rooibos, Chicory Root, Artificial Flavor, Rosehips, Cinnamon, Peppermint, Lemongrass, Papaya Leaves, Chamomile, Panax Ginseng Leaves, Anise Seed, Dandelion Root, Ginger Root, Orange Peel And Orange Oil.

2 bags of tea like that, and 1 bag of tea filled about 3-5 grams of  finely grounded dried mushroom powder (done in a magic bullet mini blender) .  I add Honey to sweeten it, and I add a dash of vanilla extract and splash of Cream, it makes for a seriously most delicious magical Tea!!!

I boil 2 cups of filtered water on the stove till its boiling hard then let it boil another 3 - 5 mins to get oxygen out.  Then I turn off the stove, and as soon as the boil lets up I place all 3 tea bags Into the water and let it sit and steep for about 30-45mins. Conclude by reheating it up a bit to make it a nice hot Tea and it'll kick in hard and strong in like 10-30mins, and the trip is usually about 8 hours long with this method for me atleast.  I always ingest it on a mostly empty stomach ( 6-12 hour fast with some crackers or some rice porridge if you need sustenance or something in your stomach that is easy and neutral.)

  Delicious, no weird tastes, efficient, easy on the stomach, and good and magical.


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: Pandemoon]
    #23800655 - 11/04/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

that would just be so cool if I could totally avoid nausea for psychedelics. fuckin hatte it.

Will have to look into that oil pandemoon


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23800693 - 11/04/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have never gotten nauseaus from mushrooms before but it sounds pretty miserable to be sick and tripping.

I think it might come mostly from the raw mushrooms themselves yea? I wonder if preperation makes a difference IE if cooked mushrooms are easier to digest and vause less nausea than fresh?


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: mushpunx]
    #23800868 - 11/04/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Oh right, thank you, this was another option that appealed to me.

I don't even like gourmet mushrooms though so I fear it may be a slimy mess


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23801165 - 11/04/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

strained tea on an empty (or close) stomach works for me.  See my tea tek for potency and whatnot.


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23801243 - 11/04/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

thanks, I'd always wondered about consolidation times. Maybe consolidate outdoors to give em good natural light/temp fluctuations.


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23801494 - 11/04/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Lemontek has always worked for me. Even at dosages of up to 20g of dried cubes, next to no nausea. This is in comparison to before I knew about lemontek and 3g would have me on the verge of puking for a couple hours.

I know everyone has their variations on it, so all I do is grind up the mushrooms as fine as I can with a coffee grinder. Then use enough freshly squeezed lemon juice to adequately cover the powder. Mix it up and let it sit for about 30 minutes. Add some more juice of whatever kind (I will tend to either use orange juice, Vitamin Water, or sometimes even the orange Monster Energy drink) to dilute the mixture and make it more palatable. Then chug it down and hold on.

To add to this, try to get in the frame of mind that it's just the drug causing you to feel your body to an amplified degree. Chances are you are not going to puke, it is just that you're feeling your stomach way more than when you're sober.


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Re: How to completely remove mushroom nausea, thoughts [Re: fractaloctopus]
    #23801586 - 11/04/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That is what has always kept me away from lemon tek, chugging chunky lemon juice. I like really sour stuff, but the mush gunk :barf:

"To add to this, try to get in the frame of mind that it's just the drug causing you to feel your body to an amplified degree. Chances are you are not going to puke, it is just that you're feeling your stomach way more than when you're sober." this


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