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The Ecstatic said: His stance on drugs, whatever that may actually be, is irrelevant to my vote.
Obviously
Trump is the only candidate who can literally actually stand for almost everything everyone can agree on and still be hated just because of the R in front of his name
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"Wahhh stop with the insults and derailing........you stupid lib, heres an irrelevant meme"
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Re: BASHO - Trump vs Hillary [Re: phio]
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According to tax returns filed by the Clinton Foundation, only 5.7% of the funds raised actually went to charitable organizations. The rest went to salaries and benefits for employees and "other expenses."
The Clinton Foundation spent a hair under $91.3 million in 2014, the organization’s IRS filings show. But less than $5.2 million of that went to charitable grants. That number pales in comparison to the $34.8 million the foundation spent on salaries, compensation and employee benefits.
Another $50.4 million was marked as “other expenses,” while the remaining almost $851K was marked as “professional fundraising expenses.”
Despite taking in an additional $30 million in 2014, the Clinton Foundation spent 40 percent less on charitable grants in 2014 than in 2013. Even as it slashed charitable spending, the foundation increased the amount spent on salaries, employee benefits and compensation by $5 million in 2014. The foundation also spent $5 million more “other expenses” in 2014.
Bullshit. More bullshit. Still bullshit. None of the numbers you provided came from the source you cited. The Clinton Foundation received money from other countries, yes. At least 80% of the money went to charitable work, and there's no evidence the suggest otherwise or that said foreign governments received preferential treatment.
"'Although it has ‘foundation’ in its name, the Clinton Foundation is actually a public charity,' Brian Mittendorf, a professor of accounting at Ohio State University’s Fisher College of Business, wrote in the Chronicle of Philanthropy. 'In practical terms, this means both that it relies heavily on donations from the public and that it achieves its mission primarily by using those donations to conduct direct charitable activities, as opposed to providing grants from an endowment. Failure to understand the difference led to the widespread claim (covered by the New York Post, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and others) that only a small portion of Clinton Foundation spending goes toward charity. While measuring charitable endeavors by the amount of grants awarded may be appropriate for many private foundations, it is not for an organization that acts as a direct service provider like the Clinton Foundation.'" - From the Politifact article sourced above.
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As first reported by The Daily Caller, the IRS launched an investigation into the Clinton Foundation this past July after 64 House Republicans called the foundation a “lawless ‘pay-to-play’ enterprise that has been operating under a cloak of philanthropy for years and should be investigated” in a letter to the IRS, FBI and Federal Trade Commission (FTC).
Oh, my. I had no idea House Republicans were so interested in finding a reason to indict Hillary Clinton! Surely their actions are motivated strictly by a desire for justice and not generating bad press for their primary political opponent.
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Further, you seem to not understand the motivation behind Charitable foundations... They're tax protected opaque structures of power and and influence. http://fortune.com/2015/12/02/zuckerberg-charity/
"The bulk of the charitable work lauded by the Clinton Foundation’s boosters — the distribution of drugs to impoverished people in developing countries — is no longer even performed by the Clinton Foundation. Those activities were spun off in 2010 and are now managed by the Clinton Health Access Initiative, a completely separate non-profit organization.”
The quote about the Clinton Foundation is not in the source you provided. Apparently, it (and the numbers you cited above) came from an article from The Federalist. That's not really an objective source of information, is it? Nice try attempting to slip it in under the disguise of a respectable journalistic agency.
It is correct that the Clinton Foundation does the bulk of its charity through separate initiatives, but these are all funded and run by the Clinton Foundation.
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You have some time yet to remove the veil of ignorance. If you chose to maintain it, you are doing so knowingly.
In the future and increasingly in the present, there are less and less people who will spoon feed you the truth and it will increasingly become harder to find. Arrogantly proclaiming that you're going to keep towing the line of ignorance hurts no other person more greatly than yourself and dooms your future most of all.
Oh, give me a break.
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Re: BASHO - Trump vs Hillary [Re: Arcanum]
#23803528 - 11/05/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If all of what you say is true, then why did the FBI announce it has a LONG running investigation on the Foundation for pay for play allegations among other things. FBI agents actually doing the investigation have said any other person would have already been indicted. Why do you feel the need to protect a person that will literally do nothing for you in office? All her emails have literally indicated what she says in public isn't what she actually intends to do for big donors. These are facts.
The Clinton Foundation has 56 million dollars in staffing/salary costs. Some of their top executives are paid several hundred thousand dollars. They said they would stop taking in foreign money, but they haven't. Your entire argument is moot.
And try using a different sources beside beside the Clinton Foundation and Politifacts, who is notoriously one-sided for the liberal agenda. But yeah, using a link from the Clinton Foundation as a source for your argument just proves as to how ignorant you really are.
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The Clinton foundation was used to launder money for those buying acces to US policy from the then Secretary of State, Hildabeast
This is a fact.
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It's not an opinion. It's either a fact or a false claim.
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Re: BASHO - Trump vs Hillary [Re: PatrickKn]
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Its his opinion that the claim is true. If it is true, its unproven.
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hostileuniverse said: The Clinton foundation was used to launder money for those buying acces to US policy from the then Secretary of State, Hildabeast
This is a fact.
http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/11/clinton-foundation-confirms-unreported-1-million-donation-from-qatar/
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As the fetid swamp that surrounds Hillary and everything she touches becomes more clear to more Americans, her “charity” has confirmed that it did indeed receive a $1 million “donation” from Qatar while she was Secretary of State. Qatar, one of the forces involved in toppling Libya’s Muammar el-Qaddafi and a vocal cheerleader for Assad’s ouster over the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, clearly had the same goals that drove Hillary’s time at State . . . and resulted in one of her infamous and chilling cackling outbursts.
Reuters reports:
The Clinton Foundation has confirmed it accepted a $1 million gift from Qatar while Hillary Clinton was U.S. secretary of state without informing the State Department, even though she had promised to let the agency review new or significantly increased support from foreign governments.
Qatari officials pledged the money in 2011 to mark the 65th birthday of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton’s husband, and sought to meet the former U.S. president in person the following year to present him the check, according to an email from a foundation official to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign chairman, John Podesta. The email, among thousands hacked from Podesta’s account, was published last month by WikiLeaks.
In 2009, Hillary signed an ethics agreement in order to accept her appointment at State, and part of that agreement required her to disclose to State’s ethics official donations to the Clinton Foundation from foreign governments.
So far, State has not been able to locate any documentation that this “charitable donation” was reported.
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The Ecstatic said: Thats an opinion.
The FBI doesn't conduct ongoing months long investigations based on an opinion. That is also a fact.
The Hillary apologists are unbelievable. What you do you guys actually think you will gain with her in office? Lower taxes? More jobs? More obamacare? It's almost as if you guys don't gather any information outside democrat talking points memo and CNN/MSNBC.
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hostileuniverse said: The Clinton foundation was used to launder money for those buying acces to US policy from the then Secretary of State, Hildabeast
This is a fact.
http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/11/clinton-foundation-confirms-unreported-1-million-donation-from-qatar/
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As the fetid swamp that surrounds Hillary and everything she touches becomes more clear to more Americans, her “charity” has confirmed that it did indeed receive a $1 million “donation” from Qatar while she was Secretary of State. Qatar, one of the forces involved in toppling Libya’s Muammar el-Qaddafi and a vocal cheerleader for Assad’s ouster over the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, clearly had the same goals that drove Hillary’s time at State . . . and resulted in one of her infamous and chilling cackling outbursts.
Reuters reports:
The Clinton Foundation has confirmed it accepted a $1 million gift from Qatar while Hillary Clinton was U.S. secretary of state without informing the State Department, even though she had promised to let the agency review new or significantly increased support from foreign governments.
Qatari officials pledged the money in 2011 to mark the 65th birthday of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton’s husband, and sought to meet the former U.S. president in person the following year to present him the check, according to an email from a foundation official to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign chairman, John Podesta. The email, among thousands hacked from Podesta’s account, was published last month by WikiLeaks.
In 2009, Hillary signed an ethics agreement in order to accept her appointment at State, and part of that agreement required her to disclose to State’s ethics official donations to the Clinton Foundation from foreign governments.
So far, State has not been able to locate any documentation that this “charitable donation” was reported.
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The Ecstatic said: Thats an opinion.

Your own source says it was a 65th birthday gift for Bill. Moron.
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Theres a huge gap between not reporting a donation and proof that Qatar got preferential treatment in return for that donation.
Besides, its not even like our relationship with Qatar has changed since 2011. But even proving otherwise is still miles away from substantiating your claim.
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That's not even a relevant statement. The only thing you can do is deflect from the actual facts of the case. You are delusional and not even willing to look at the evidence against her. Rather, you are just pandering from one point to the next attempting to deflect the credibility of the argument being made against her.
She deleted 33,000 emails AFTER being subpoenaed from congress. Her foundation is being investigated by the FBI on multiple accounts. It's not just one, but YEARS of taking in foreign money and pay for play scandals.
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^ none of that is relevant, let alone proof that Clinton Foundation donors received preferential treatment because of their donations.
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How do you know there isn't proof? Are you taking the Foundations word for it? Because some liberal on CNN said so?
The FBI hasn't released their findings. What should be happening is the federal investigators take all their evidence to the DOJ who then makes a case that is presented to a grand jury. The grand jury is suppose to make the decision as to whether or not there should be an indictment. But the DOJ and White House is literally preventing that from happening because of partisan politics. If this was a republican being investigated for felony corruption, bribery, and pay-for-play allegations, their head would be in a noose right now and anyone that says otherwise if full of shit.
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Don't you know? All of that is relevant, Hillary made 100 million by starting a charity, forget everything your eyes see, it's all a VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!
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