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Inocuole
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: spacechildo]
#23802744 - 11/05/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: Inocuole]
#23802759 - 11/05/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: spacechildo]
#23802763 - 11/05/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Greg
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: PinPornProducer]
#23802930 - 11/05/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is a bad thread. OP should feel bad.
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som776
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: Greg]
#23803007 - 11/05/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I didnt say grain spawn . i said using manure and verm as spawn by liquid culture , like they use to grow years ago from the article i posted up . wanted to know the yield difference between what they did to grain spawn now .
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Inocuole
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: som776]
#23803013 - 11/05/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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How are you gonna measure how much spawn you're using in a ratio when the spawn material is the same as the bulk material? Whether it's colonized in a jar first doesn't have an impact on how much it'll produce. Ideally it doesn't matter if you spawn 2 quarts of colonized bulk to another 2 quarts, or 1 quart to 3 quarts, or 3 quarts to 1 quart. It's all gonna be 4 quarts of colonized bulk when it's done. Which will barely put out shit without proper spawn.
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spacechildo
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: som776]
#23803020 - 11/05/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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no one's claiming 1-2oz pr qt of anything but grain spawn. no you wont get good results without grain spawn. get with the times, make spawn!
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PinPornProducer
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: som776]
#23803022 - 11/05/16 11:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think it was eat that used blended cakes as a LI and poured it over the sub, not sure if it was hpoo or coir, can't remeber. Yields are very hard to determine normally anyways. So many factors go into yield results.
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: dankington]
#23803101 - 11/05/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
dankington said: you know, maybe it's just me, but I'd have probably done a little more reading before I did 250 spawn bags, and made 400 qt jars for pans (done pf style?) with LCs.
Seems legit.
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: Spore Ninja]
#23803804 - 11/05/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I do have x 18 35lb bags of wbs . i wanted to do spongiforms big cake tek in spawn bags and an invitro pan cyan tek in plastic quart jars or regular manure cakes, but was wondering if monotubs would bring better yield and potency ( strain p.e. and pan trop ) never used manure in monotub before only 2 succesful mono tubs with damion5050 teq and a few succesful goes at pf tek . i have unlimited manure and verm .
One more thing if youbguys can help i followed spongi forms l.c. tek and also joke fox agar broth tek and i see growth . i have about 20 stir plates , how do i know if my culture is healthy . One of my pan cyan l.c.s a small part of it ,the myc has turned blue is it over for it ? Must i transfer to agar or is it ok to transfer to other l.c.s to multiply my l.c. supply ?
Thanks guys .
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Inocuole
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: som776]
#23803809 - 11/05/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ohh yeah for suuuure dirty LC expands like a dream.
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som776
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: Inocuole]
#23804216 - 11/05/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok thanks i have another pancyan l.c. color is good but myc went flat can i still use ? The myc is sinking .
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tump
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: som776]
#23804382 - 11/05/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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pictures please. Agar made lc starting out is best. The only way to test a culture is agar. The only good use for a dirty lc is poisoning your neighbor's pets
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: tump]
#23805678 - 11/06/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks Tump. Here are pics of my 2 pan cyan liq cultures . in the first pic the one that i believe to be healthy is on the left still floating , the one on the right is the one that looks to still have healthy myc patches forming now , but some have a small off greenish blue spot in the middle . The last 5 pics are of the bad one , i do however think that i see pins forming in this one . Do you have any advice on what to do with these jars ?
Thanks brother .
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: som776] 1
#23805684 - 11/06/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those are both so nasty
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Greg
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: Mad Season]
#23805694 - 11/06/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jesus those are disgusting
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: Greg]
#23805701 - 11/06/16 08:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Toss them in the trash a few days ago is my advice
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PinPornProducer
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23805712 - 11/06/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow...
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: PinPornProducer]
#23805718 - 11/06/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't open the jars toss them as they are or PC them for an hour if you don't want to toss the glass.
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Re: inoculate pure manure and verm without any grains ? [Re: PinPornProducer]
#23805722 - 11/06/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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