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Re: Why me ? [Re: Trippedytrip]
    #23803844 - 11/05/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hi O.P.

It looks like you had a traumatic experience that has stuck with you, which is probably what makes you feel like you didn't come down/back from the trip.

I think the best thing you can do is find a good psychotherapist who understands the psychedelic experience and how to help overcome emotional trauma. As someone said before, you may have to try different ones before you find someone who truly understands what you're going through and who you feel confident with. This is the most important thing: to find someone with whom you feel safe in order to be able to talk about your emotions and heal the trauma. It is very common that a traumatic experience has lasting effects on one's feelings, thoughts and behaviours. It's kind of similar to what happens to people suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder. You may want to read about trauma, dissociation and brainspotting.

If you need more information on this topic feel free to contact me, I will be glad to help you :smile:

I wish you the best.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: Farnaby1984]
    #23806313 - 11/06/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hey man, i know all about being crippled. The depression is unreal, but not unbeatable. Like i said, at this point i'm a better happier person being ill than before. You make your own purpose. The deepest wells of joy are accessible to all. As for taking 5 grams... I can't recommend for or against it. It has the potential to straighten things out or twist them up further. If you could do it under the guidance of someone you trust who does this sort of energy work i wouldn't hesitate. But without really knowing what you're seeking it can be easy to just get more lost. I didn't go back to ayahuasca until i had sorted out what my issue was. That was crucial to progress. I wish it were easier to get the appropriate help. But don't lose your hope. You're more capable than you know.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #23808741 - 11/07/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Peyote Road said:
doctors don't shit about this or what to do. I am realizing more and more now that your average people are so unaware spiritually and so culterally programmed they have no idea how to help people with spiritual problems induced by psychedelics or otherwise.

You need to heal yourself, or find a qualified healier/shaman who can set you straight again. You will never get your old life back, but you can find new life, better than the old.

Life can be extremely painful, difficult and challenging. I realize one of the things that I was deluded about in my youth was how bad life could get. I never thought it would happen to me. I never thought Id ever suffer the way I have suffered. But the good news is that this gives you a real chance and incentive to wake up from this delusion called life.




:ahahaha: This right here. So much truth. I was as culturally indoctrinated as anyone. Born and bred in linear reductionism. Studied biochemistry for six years and got slapped with a million autoimmune diseases one day. Put my faith in orthodox medicine and was let down again and again and again. Doctors don't know shit. About spiritual issues or otherwise. I've put so much time into researching chronic illnesses of all sorts and the science just doesn't support most of what's happening in health care. Linear reductionism and over-specialization has fragmented healthcare into a bunch of incoherent systems with little integrative capacity. Orthodox medicine has become quite deluded as a result. It is quite literally the only biological discipline that thinks it's going to high-tech its way back to health. Ask an ecologist how long until we have a pill or a technology to fix habitat fragmentation and they will spit their coffee in laughter. Ask a doctor and they will tell you that if we just rape the earth a little longer, do a little more research, we'll have it. It's just not a biologically valid approach. Out of like 20 doctors i've been to the past few years the only one who had an acceptable understanding of pathology was my licensed acupuncturist :rofl2: And that's physical health. Don't even get me started on psychic issues. Anyone who can't see the problem there with overprescribing for emotional and spiritual distress is in for a world of hurt down the road. Even conventional therapists fail to hit the mark in my experience. They're great for venting but that's about it. I've had dramatically more success with "energy healers" and ayahuascero's. I know it sounds quacky, but it is what it is.



Here is my last thought on this thread & it is....If you have F. A. I. T. H. ( u have to truly believe also)anything can be healed without doctors & it is True. Peace & Love


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Re: Why me ? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23811999 - 11/08/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Your right they will figure it out.  They will care for them,  heal them, and mend them all while  practicing compassion.

Your view and way is wrong and twisted.  If it was in place from the beginning .... you wouldn't be making that post, because you would not be here.

Because frankly, you are amungst the sick and mentally ill.  And I sense that you were hurt by someone long or not to long ago and now because of your ignorance deal with it in this most unhealthy and evil way.  I pity you truly.  May you find your way.

:dontdothat:





Actually i am not mentally ill nor do I have a mental disorder.  This is court ordered fact.




You cant fix anyone who does not have the capacity or capability to tell the difference between right and wrong.  When your baby gets thrown out a 4 story window because some random freak heard voices telling them to throw it, maybe then you will change your young child mind.  The world isn't rainbows and cheese.  But I guess when you are 11 and mommy and daddy have kept you far from the realities of the world you really dont know any better.


lol just ask the women who start relationships with men in prison.  they think if they would just love them enough they would change and be different.  (Unfortunately I know one of those women, and she almost lost her life because she's on the same wavelength as you.  but thank God for her she was able to shoot him first).  That didnt stop her from spending 9 months in the shittiest jail in this state before she was found not guilty though.

You cant fix everyone. IMO it would be kinder and nicer to put them to sleep.  it is not a quality life anyway. I would rather crazy people be put down than risk them victimizing innocent people.  People who are diagnosed insane should be held accountable for their actions despite their lack of conscious knowledge.  If you cant tell the difference from right and wrong you have no business in society.  They have less of a right than a criminal does because a criminal atleast KNOWS the difference.

From my perspective, you are the one who is crazy.  And if anyone has to be a victim of their shit I hope it happens to you, and not anyone I care about.

when you stop breast feeding and your brain is developed enough to start learning stuff then you can come talk to me.  See you in 25 years.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: sprinkles]
    #23812049 - 11/08/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

thank God for Hillary tho, she will fix everything.  we wont have to put any crazy people to sleep cause she will nurture and love them till they're normal. 


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Re: Why me ? [Re: sprinkles]
    #23812116 - 11/08/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

hahaha.  You must be right kid.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23812188 - 11/08/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

how much time you spend on here?  why arent you in school?  isnt it a school day?



judging my your one post I would bet you are 15 years old. 


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Re: Why me ? [Re: Trippedytrip]
    #23812234 - 11/08/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I thought shrooms were safe

I thought shrooms where friendly

I thought shrooms were life changing

Shrooms were life changing for me .

It was my 1st trip , 1 year ago , 2.5 grams Hawaian Cubensis.

I dont really know how it happened , i got stuck in that moment of the trip , that high.

Since then i have never been grounded , cant live normally.

That trip has fucked up my life , i am 19 and dont even have a life in front of me .

I have tripped 4 times since that , dont get any effects , dpnt get high from weed because i already am high. I have nothing in front of me , everything is to blame on the shrooms and my
mentality that day.

I dont know why it has happened to me , why that trip has taken my life away , why me ?

I want to make everyone clear that Psychs arent a game and this can happen , it isnt a myth.

I dont even know what to say anymore , i have nothing to live more , i dont kill myself because of the loved ones but my heart wont take so much more .

I was a intelligent guy , with a giant heart , good expectations , a decent life before my eyes and everything i needed and it hurts so much not being able to live anymore

Peace





So what is actually your problem?  You don't say.  How did mushrooms ruin your life, feel free to elaborate.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: Kenetic]
    #23812259 - 11/08/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

obviously OP did something he/she is very ashamed of.  They cant even confess to a majority of drug addicted strangers for fear we may judge them.  I am guessing it's probably very bad.  or they are very dramatic.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: sprinkles]
    #23812450 - 11/08/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm just lost. This thread makes no sense to me


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Re: Why me ? [Re: Kenetic]
    #23812468 - 11/08/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What literally happened is that i panicked durkng the trip and spmething went wrong that moment .

Sonce then i got stuck in that high point and never came down ..

It is now 1 year since the trip , does it make sense now ??


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Re: Why me ? [Re: Trippedytrip]
    #23812491 - 11/08/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

no it does not.  Elaborate. otherwise we are left to assume the worst.  I am sure whatever you did is not as bad as what we are imagining.


maybe this would be a good opportunity for you to work on being truthful & honest.  Admitting whatever and taking responsibility then make ammends, if possible.


*secrets keep you sick


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Re: Why me ? [Re: sprinkles]
    #23812582 - 11/08/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

why are you guys hung up on the idea that he "did something"?  what I'm getting from his explanation is that he can't escape from the negative mental state the trip put him in.  My advice to OP is to move on with your life and accept this as your new "normal".  I think after a year of focusing on the problem,you've spent enough time trying to fix yourself.  If your religious, I think it's time to leave it up to God.  Or in other terms, trust that things will work out for good eventually.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: unfortunategent]
    #23812800 - 11/08/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

One time I had something happen during a trip and I just kind of 'snapped' if you will. Literally one second I was fine, the next I felt literally insane, like I was dead, everything was wrong etc. On the surface you would think, yah, it happens, just sounds like a bad trip, w/e. However this was 11 hours into an LSD trip and this feeling, a feeling that is too encompassing to put into words, did not leave me for about three months.

I struggled to try and get over it for about a month and a half, maybe two months. Just mentally going over it again and again, analyzing everything to try to find out what was wrong. In the end I just gave up looking for an answer, accepted this is how I am, and tried my best to let things be and I believe that is how I returned to normal. Literally one day over a few hours I did return right back to normal after feeling this way for months, it left about as quick as it came, but while it was here it stuck around for awhile.

In retrospect there really was nothing wrong with me. Nothing I can put my finger on anyway, certainly nothing I believe science can point to, I'm honestly not sure if my brain chemistry would have even reflected this state. The only thing that was wrong is that I was convinced something was wrong as crazy as that sounds. If you think about it that's one of the most difficult problems to overcome because it's intangible, there's nothing you can actually do to fix it, it's a non problem really, you can't fix something that doesn't exist, but as long as your mind tells you it does it's hard to stop looking.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: unfortunategent]
    #23812802 - 11/08/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Like unfortunategent I don't understand some of the replies youmgot.

I recommend visiting a good psychotherapist who can help you work through your emotions and integrate them. What you're experiencing is likely due to repressed emotions which need to be looked at and accepted as a part of yourself. I remember talking to my therapist about some of my trips and even though they weren't traumatic it helped a lot for integration. I'm sure the same is true for traumatic trips, even though they may require more time to get propperly integrated.

The most important thing is to find someone who truly listens to how you're feeling, someone who accepts you as you are, so don't go to someone who is going to try and impose his morals on you.

I wish you the best.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: unfortunategent]
    #23812926 - 11/08/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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why are you guys hung up on the idea that he "did something"?  what I'm getting from his explanation is that he can't escape from the negative mental state the trip put him in.  My advice to OP is to move on with your life and accept this as your new "normal".  I think after a year of focusing on the problem,you've spent enough time trying to fix yourself.  If your religious, I think it's time to leave it up to God.  Or in other terms, trust that things will work out for good eventually.



Sometimes when someone "Did something" that means just that "It was left up to God to put fourth his wrath" Just saying. Yes I would Repent if I were u & if it seems to be your only way out I would do it anyhow no matter what! Peace & LOve


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Re: Why me ? [Re: sprinkles]
    #23813001 - 11/08/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

After the trip i kept on going , it was some months afterwards where i felt something was not right ,
Kept on smoking weed , but something was not okay , i never returned to the starting point being grounded with earth .

Since the trip i cant work normally bcs i am not grounded in myself , you must see it as if you were on top of yourself with a higher perspective but not inside of yourself.

After i year i really am thinking back and it all starts at the trip. I panicked , something went wrong really wrong , i was mute couldnt speak all to overwhelming.

I was in a ward 9 weeks , not helped .

After much time i have thought a lot and my thinking is as if i where still high and i see the a reality wich is realer then my past reallity , kinda like shroom world.

I am going to a homeopathic lady as a final resource and she says she coudld definetely help me and ground me back aligning my chakras.

If that doesnt work i must really look into South America to real shamans and do some plant work or Ayahuasca as a final option!

Its not me overthinking things , i just never returned to normal sober mind as i knew it again.
I cant play with my mind with reality , i am one step outside of it.

Do you understand now ?


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Re: Why me ? [Re: Trippedytrip]
    #23813026 - 11/08/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Do you still smoke weed? If so STOP. I didn't mention it, but that made my experience *way* worse.

Also reading what you just wrote makes me question if the mushrooms had anything to do with it. If you were fine for 3 months afterward how could they possibly be the cause? If you're fine after a trip you can't have something in your brain flip months later and then attribute it to the mushrooms, that makes no sense what so ever. If anything it sounds like smoking weed did it to me, I mean... read what you just wrote.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: krypto2000]
    #23813099 - 11/08/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I stopped weed 5 months ago ,

I know what i said and its true , i realized it within time that something was wrong the trip was already so bumpy , everytime afterwards my weed highs were more shroom highs

Surely the shrooms triggered this because my sweet ganja doesnt make this.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: Trippedytrip]
    #23813121 - 11/08/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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After the trip i kept on going , it was some months afterwards where i felt something was not right ,
Kept on smoking weed , but something was not okay , i never returned to the starting point being grounded with earth .

Since the trip i cant work normally bcs i am not grounded in myself , you must see it as if you were on top of yourself with a higher perspective but not inside of yourself.

After i year i really am thinking back and it all starts at the trip. I panicked , something went wrong really wrong , i was mute couldnt speak all to overwhelming.

I was in a ward 9 weeks , not helped .

After much time i have thought a lot and my thinking is as if i where still high and i see the a reality wich is realer then my past reallity , kinda like shroom world.

I am going to a homeopathic lady as a final resource and she says she coudld definetely help me and ground me back aligning my chakras.

If that doesnt work i must really look into South America to real shamans and do some plant work or Ayahuasca as a final option!

Its not me overthinking things , i just never returned to normal sober mind as i knew it again.
I cant play with my mind with reality , i am one step outside of it.

Do you understand now ?


Peace



Weird Shrooms GROUND ME more than anything. I am confused even more.. I hope u get better O. P. like I said time & prayer r the answer in my openion.


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