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Re: Why me ? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23800482 - 11/04/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Don't lose hope. Are you still smoking weed or anything? A similar thing happened to me when I was 21. I felt like I was tripping for ~3 months or more, it's hard to remember the timeline now. It was basically a spiritual crisis and in the west there is really no one you can go to, drs cannot help. I went to a psyche ward for a week and quickly realized it was a mistake, at best they do nothing, at worst they make things worse ime. I really do not think there was anything wrong with me at all, it was just something I had to work through. I stopped doing all drugs and began a daily meditation practice and over time things improved.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: krypto2000]
    #23800586 - 11/04/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I know someone who went through exactly what OP is going through and it was because she had some mental illnesses that were dormant.




do you have a family history of mental illness, because most people reset to normal if they go sober for like 3 to 6 months after a truly traumatic trip, but it seems that for you, you got stuck in the "am i always going to be high" which I used to get afraid about when super high, but now I just trust that I will come down and always do, but I have no mental health problems in my family

I always say this to myself: would it be so bad to be high all the time? so maybe its how you look at it, I know people who stay 24/7 high as shit on weed and they seem to function just fine, maybe you need to change your perception of what happened to you, and accept your current mind state for what it is.

This is just speculation though, me being in your position and me trying to give you advice are two different things. I hope things improve and you live a peaceful and fulfilling life man.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23800619 - 11/04/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I know someone who went through exactly what OP is going through and it was because she had some mental illnesses that were dormant.




do you have a family history of mental illness, because most people reset to normal if they go sober for like 3 to 6 months after a truly traumatic trip, but it seems that for you, you got stuck in the "am i always going to be high" which I used to get afraid about when super high, but now I just trust that I will come down and always do, but I have no mental health problems in my family

I always say this to myself: would it be so bad to be high all the time? so maybe its how you look at it, I know people who stay 24/7 high as shit on weed and they seem to function just fine, maybe you need to change your perception of what happened to you, and accept your current mind state for what it is.

This is just speculation though, me being in your position and me trying to give you advice are two different things. I hope things improve and you live a peaceful and fulfilling life man.



It wasn't me, it was my friend. But yeah her mom was mentally ill and was diagnosed with so many things. My friend took half a mushroom chocolate which was supposed to be around 1.5 of cubes. She started acting weird some days and then it started getting worse.

One day her roommates had to call the ambulance to get her and she spent a few weeks in a psych ward. She's on ssri's and stuff now. She's tried to trip but her medication won't let her. She thinks she's "spiritually immune" now to them. And she took them four years ago. She's doing better now, has a bf and a baby on the way, so there is hope...


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Re: Why me ? [Re: Kinshino]
    #23800679 - 11/04/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

someone help me understand why fucking people with mental issues reproduce.  It is so incredibly selfish.  Like earth isn't hard enough, lets throw mental illness in there because struggling to live is so much fun.  No one wants to be born to a fucking crazy person and no one wants that genetic malady passed to them.  If I made the decisions 'round here crazy people would just be put to sleep.  Not all, just the dangerous ones.  The others would be sterilized.  Right along with alcoholics and drug addicts.



Ugh I dont know if I speak for everyone but we as a society really need more of these high quality people. 


and yeah I know id probably be one of the first people under my new set of rules to be killed but thats fine.  It's a sacrifice i'd be willing to make for the greater good and evolution non-stupid humanity.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: sprinkles]
    #23801229 - 11/04/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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sprinkles said:
someone help me understand why fucking people with mental issues reproduce.  It is so incredibly selfish.  Like earth isn't hard enough, lets throw mental illness in there because struggling to live is so much fun.  No one wants to be born to a fucking crazy person and no one wants that genetic malady passed to them.  If I made the decisions 'round here crazy people would just be put to sleep.  Not all, just the dangerous ones.  The others would be sterilized.  Right along with alcoholics and drug addicts.



Ugh I dont know if I speak for everyone but we as a society really need more of these high quality people. 


and yeah I know id probably be one of the first people under my new set of rules to be killed but thats fine.  It's a sacrifice i'd be willing to make for the greater good and evolution non-stupid humanity.



It don't work that way bud.  Your logic is comparitive to hitlers.
Mental illness is part of the human plight. Like all the others ailments and illnesses in the world.  Some of the worlds greatest creativity comes from  Mental illness. 

To op first and foremost quit doing any drugs, at least until you can get a grasp on things. You very well may have broke free an underlying mental illness. If you mean its like you never came down from the mushrooms, it could be schizophrenia. By all means find a psychiatrist a good one, who has understanding off these issues. They are out there and can help. But you will probably have to weed through some. The thing is though often times psychosis will have you believe there is nothing wrong or no one can help you. You more than likely can get through this and  come back from this. Like the other poster said, journal, meditate, exercise,  eliminate sugar, eat healthy, get enough sleep. These can all help. But you may need meds. There are people who need it, like a diabetic needs insulin. I will reiterate the importance of not taking anymore drugs, this can make the problem worse. Hope the best for you.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23801392 - 11/04/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The Blind Ass said:
In Dzogchen, the metaphor most commonly used to describe our situation is that of a mirror and its reflections. The reflections in a mirror are like the thoughts in our mind, which if we don't recognize as being an illusory, impermanent, unmediated, manifestation of our true nature, we will react to, identify with, become conditioned by, absorbed in and embody. Our true nature state, on the other hand, is likened to the mirror itself, which underlies and embraces all of the reflections, all the while remaining pure and changeless, never being tainted or stained by any of the reflections. It is important to realize that each thought in our mind is like a dream; once we become absorbed in a thought, we have literally entered a complete dream universe and have evoked and stepped into an illusory, limited and arbitrary identity which we experience as being who we truly are. In Dzogchen, if we get immersed in our dream-like thoughts and don't recognize the pure, mirror-like nature of our mind, we are literally considered to be nonlucidly dreaming.

The problem is that as long as we are identified with and absorbed in the imagination or thought of being a separate self we are going to resist part of our experience, as resistance and contraction are themselves the very expression of the separate self. Once we, as a separate self, see that we are resisting our experience, we will undoubtedly try and not resist, which is just another, more subtle form of resistance, and we will find ourselves in a self-created double bind, a prisoner of our own mind once again.

Dzogchen truly offers us the key to liberation; from the Dzogchen point of view, these contractions and resistances are themselves seen to be the unmediated expression of the enlightened mind itself. If we don't recognize this, we will react to our resistance like it is something real and separate from ourselves, seeing it as a true obstruction to our enlightenment. If our resistance is seen in this way, it will, in no time whatsoever, spontaneously shape-shift and manifest as a seemingly genuine obscuration, as it is nothing other than our own reflection, and we will once again be caught in the infinite regression known as samsara or cyclic existence.

On the other hand, if we recognize our resistance as the unmediated expression of our enlightened nature itself, which is none other than to become lucid in the dream, not only does the resistance not last very long, but it ceases to be problematic, as we are no longer resisting our resistance, and have thus snapped out of our infinite regression. The resistance then reveals itself to be the very vehicle through which we have deepened our realization, as we have embraced even the part of ourselves that is non-embracing.

If this does not help, I would suggest seeking out a highly trained and professional psychiatrist who has a private practice that does not just hand out drugs like candy thinking they alone the fix.  Someone that has experience treating those who have been in altered states and had trauma that can happen from exploring them sometimes.  Look online im sure you can find a good one near your area hopefully.




yes this is what i was getting at. the same principles are spoken about in leary's the psychedelic experience and i believe shrooms can help us see this. but you have to see the trip properly. if you dont think you can do that, then i recommend seeing a healer/shaman as i said earlier, or a good psychiatrist like this guy is suggesting.

the reason i dont recommend psychiatrists is because far too many of them simply prescribe pharmacueticals which are toxic and often harmful. but there are good psychiatrists out there.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: sprinkles]
    #23801481 - 11/04/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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someone help me understand why fucking people with mental issues reproduce.  It is so incredibly selfish.  Like earth isn't hard enough, lets throw mental illness in there because struggling to live is so much fun.  No one wants to be born to a fucking crazy person and no one wants that genetic malady passed to them.  If I made the decisions 'round here crazy people would just be put to sleep.  Not all, just the dangerous ones.  The others would be sterilized.  Right along with alcoholics and drug addicts.



Ugh I dont know if I speak for everyone but we as a society really need more of these high quality people. 


and yeah I know id probably be one of the first people under my new set of rules to be killed but thats fine.  It's a sacrifice i'd be willing to make for the greater good and evolution non-stupid humanity.




I'm glad most people do not think like you. I agree it's selfish to have kids, very much so, believe me, fuck, these type of people are worthless assholes, but I would not go to the extreme of sterilizing or especially murdering them.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: krypto2000]
    #23801518 - 11/04/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think it can be easy to trick ones self into thinking they are stuck in a trip when what they are doing is programming themselves into being stuck in it in a kind of self hypnosis. Maybe the thing to do is to program yourself to believe you are going to get back to reality, and you will. Maybe I'm being flippant in what I'm saying but it makes perfect sense to me and is the way I understand it from my own experiences with mushrooms or lsd.

I knew someone the same age as me when I was 18 who took half an acid blotters and was kind of wierded out (stuck in the trip somewhat) and turned into a recluse not leaving the house for over a year. He eventually got back to normal and from what Iv'e heard is doing quite well for himself now.

I'm fine with psychedelics because I know everything is going to be alright and that I will get back to normal. I am pretty sure it is that attitude that keeps me safe. If anything it's almost always a bit of a bummer when I come down off of mushrooms because I wanted it to last longer and to show me more.

A strong mental attitude is important on psychedelics. You are the one in control, and your expectations can have a big impact so it's worth being clear on your expectations of it when you take them (expect that no matter what happens, you will return back to your normal self).


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Re: Why me ? [Re: wicca mixer]
    #23801598 - 11/04/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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wicca mixer said:
I think it can be easy to trick ones self into thinking they are stuck in a trip when what they are doing is programming themselves into being stuck in it in a kind of self hypnosis. Maybe the thing to do is to program yourself to believe you are going to get back to reality, and you will. Maybe I'm being flippant in what I'm saying but it makes perfect sense to me and is the way I understand it from my own experiences with mushrooms or lsd.

I knew someone the same age as me when I was 18 who took half an acid blotters and was kind of wierded out (stuck in the trip somewhat) and turned into a recluse not leaving the house for over a year. He eventually got back to normal and from what Iv'e heard is doing quite well for himself now.

I'm fine with psychedelics because I know everything is going to be alright and that I will get back to normal. I am pretty sure it is that attitude that keeps me safe. If anything it's almost always a bit of a bummer when I come down off of mushrooms because I wanted it to last longer and to show me more.

A strong mental attitude is important on psychedelics. You are the one in control, and your expectations can have a big impact so it's worth being clear on your expectations of it when you take them (expect that no matter what happens, you will return back to your normal self).





I agree, as crazy as this would sound to a normal person I believe that if you simply don't believe mushrooms will hurt you and you take everything they show you in the most positive light and wholly surrender yourself to it (even if it is absolutely horrifying) then they can't hurt you. They were sent/given to help us, not hurt us but their power is not well understood.

But surrendering can  be hard if you have brittle mind structures. You need to make your mind fluid, so it can stretch all over the place like a sapling in the wind. If your mind is really brittle, then you might not be ready for mushrooms or at least prepare yourself for some rough waters. My mind was very brittle when i began using psychedelics but i was determined to trip anyway, come what may. I went through some challenging times and still have challenging experiences but if i could go back i would not change it.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: Trippedytrip]
    #23801804 - 11/04/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Trippedytrip said:
So ,

I have done Organ testing =
Negative

3 MRT Scans = Everything working fine

I have been in a ward 9 weeks using 2 weeks Antipsychotichs which was a bad idea.
Now i have been to a homeopathic woman . She says my chanras are unaligned and i that my soul isnt really in my body , i am out of body.

Since the trip i couldnt get high on weed anymore , didnt get any effects , i have tried reseting myself with shrooms : 1st trip 1g , 2nd trip 2.5 with no success .

My symptoms are not being really inside of me , i am kinda on top of me like when you are high .
Have lost the connection to universe , my feet to the ground and cant really feel myself.

Peace



There is ur answer u took antipycotics!!! Don't taki that crap! It really coulda made things worse for you for real. Try natural remedies next time instead please. Thank You & I think you are going to be fine with time. Time is the beast healer of all along with Jesus my friend. Peace & Love


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Re: Why me ? [Re: majicman30]
    #23801817 - 11/04/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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majicman30 said:
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Trippedytrip said:
So ,

I have done Organ testing =
Negative

3 MRT Scans = Everything working fine

I have been in a ward 9 weeks using 2 weeks Antipsychotichs which was a bad idea.
Now i have been to a homeopathic woman . She says my chanras are unaligned and i that my soul isnt really in my body , i am out of body.

Since the trip i couldnt get high on weed anymore , didnt get any effects , i have tried reseting myself with shrooms : 1st trip 1g , 2nd trip 2.5 with no success .

My symptoms are not being really inside of me , i am kinda on top of me like when you are high .
Have lost the connection to universe , my feet to the ground and cant really feel myself.

Peace



There is ur answer u took antipycotics!!! Don't taki that crap! It really coulda made things worse for you for real. Try natural remedies next time instead please. Thank You & I think you are going to be fine with time. Time is the beast healer of all along with Jesus my friend. Peace & Love



And also I don't wanna freak you out or anything, but I believe the soul isn't in the body all the time anyhow or possibly even any of the time. Maybe beside the body or above even just something to think about O.P. And Molemole I love that second pic in ur sig. & all the other ones also! Peace & LOve


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Re: Why me ? [Re: krypto2000]
    #23802125 - 11/04/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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krypto2000 said:
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sprinkles said:
someone help me understand why fucking people with mental issues reproduce.  It is so incredibly selfish.  Like earth isn't hard enough, lets throw mental illness in there because struggling to live is so much fun.  No one wants to be born to a fucking crazy person and no one wants that genetic malady passed to them.  If I made the decisions 'round here crazy people would just be put to sleep.  Not all, just the dangerous ones.  The others would be sterilized.  Right along with alcoholics and drug addicts.



Ugh I dont know if I speak for everyone but we as a society really need more of these high quality people. 


and yeah I know id probably be one of the first people under my new set of rules to be killed but thats fine.  It's a sacrifice i'd be willing to make for the greater good and evolution non-stupid humanity.




I'm glad most people do not think like you. I agree it's selfish to have kids, very much so, believe me, fuck, these type of people are worthless assholes, but I would not go to the extreme of sterilizing or especially murdering them.





Earth would be a MUCH better place if more people shared the same view as me.  people left would actually WANT to be here.  more importantly they would know the difference between right and wrong. 

Society just hasnt figured out what to do with crazy people yet.  They will eventually.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: sprinkles]
    #23802273 - 11/05/16 12:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Your right they will figure it out.  They will care for them,  heal them, and mend them all while  practicing compassion.

Your view and way is wrong and twisted.  If it was in place from the beginning .... you wouldn't be making that post, because you would not be here.

Because frankly, you are amungst the sick and mentally ill.  And I sense that you were hurt by someone long or not to long ago and now because of your ignorance deal with it in this most unhealthy and evil way.  I pity you truly.  May you find your way.

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Re: Why me ? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23802497 - 11/05/16 05:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Seeing a Psychiatrist wont help .

Since that day everyhing stopped , the flow of life , since that day i dont remember new things , my eyes wont see anymore , it really got stucked in that moment.

I have tripped again to see if it can correct but it hasnt helped , my dose was 2.5g .

I really dont know what to do they have fucked me up , i cant live normal , i think it is a irreperable damage because time would have healed it since then , its 1 year ago!

I am just do hopeless , i thought shrooms were friendly
and not life fucking and i blame it really on them and my unexperienced mindset .

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Re: Why me ? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23802557 - 11/05/16 06:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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doctors don't shit about this or what to do. I am realizing more and more now that your average people are so unaware spiritually and so culterally programmed they have no idea how to help people with spiritual problems induced by psychedelics or otherwise.

You need to heal yourself, or find a qualified healier/shaman who can set you straight again. You will never get your old life back, but you can find new life, better than the old.

Life can be extremely painful, difficult and challenging. I realize one of the things that I was deluded about in my youth was how bad life could get. I never thought it would happen to me. I never thought Id ever suffer the way I have suffered. But the good news is that this gives you a real chance and incentive to wake up from this delusion called life.




:ahahaha: This right here. So much truth. I was as culturally indoctrinated as anyone. Born and bred in linear reductionism. Studied biochemistry for six years and got slapped with a million autoimmune diseases one day. Put my faith in orthodox medicine and was let down again and again and again. Doctors don't know shit. About spiritual issues or otherwise. I've put so much time into researching chronic illnesses of all sorts and the science just doesn't support most of what's happening in health care. Linear reductionism and over-specialization has fragmented healthcare into a bunch of incoherent systems with little integrative capacity. Orthodox medicine has become quite deluded as a result. It is quite literally the only biological discipline that thinks it's going to high-tech its way back to health. Ask an ecologist how long until we have a pill or a technology to fix habitat fragmentation and they will spit their coffee in laughter. Ask a doctor and they will tell you that if we just rape the earth a little longer, do a little more research, we'll have it. It's just not a biologically valid approach. Out of like 20 doctors i've been to the past few years the only one who had an acceptable understanding of pathology was my licensed acupuncturist :rofl2: And that's physical health. Don't even get me started on psychic issues. Anyone who can't see the problem there with overprescribing for emotional and spiritual distress is in for a world of hurt down the road. Even conventional therapists fail to hit the mark in my experience. They're great for venting but that's about it. I've had dramatically more success with "energy healers" and ayahuascero's. I know it sounds quacky, but it is what it is.


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Re: Why me ? [Re: sprinkles]
    #23802582 - 11/05/16 06:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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someone help me understand why fucking people with mental issues reproduce.  It is so incredibly selfish.  Like earth isn't hard enough, lets throw mental illness in there because struggling to live is so much fun.  No one wants to be born to a fucking crazy person and no one wants that genetic malady passed to them.  If I made the decisions 'round here crazy people would just be put to sleep.  Not all, just the dangerous ones.  The others would be sterilized.  Right along with alcoholics and drug addicts.





Yikes! Gotta be trolling! If not seek proffesional help! The biggest nutters are those who dont realize they are nuts! A plan to murder lunatics, drug addicts and alcoholics lol!

There would be nobody left!


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Re: Why me ? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23802588 - 11/05/16 07:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Peyote Road said:
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wicca mixer said:
I think it can be easy to trick ones self into thinking they are stuck in a trip when what they are doing is programming themselves into being stuck in it in a kind of self hypnosis. Maybe the thing to do is to program yourself to believe you are going to get back to reality, and you will. Maybe I'm being flippant in what I'm saying but it makes perfect sense to me and is the way I understand it from my own experiences with mushrooms or lsd.

I knew someone the same age as me when I was 18 who took half an acid blotters and was kind of wierded out (stuck in the trip somewhat) and turned into a recluse not leaving the house for over a year. He eventually got back to normal and from what Iv'e heard is doing quite well for himself now.

I'm fine with psychedelics because I know everything is going to be alright and that I will get back to normal. I am pretty sure it is that attitude that keeps me safe. If anything it's almost always a bit of a bummer when I come down off of mushrooms because I wanted it to last longer and to show me more.

A strong mental attitude is important on psychedelics. You are the one in control, and your expectations can have a big impact so it's worth being clear on your expectations of it when you take them (expect that no matter what happens, you will return back to your normal self).





I agree, as crazy as this would sound to a normal person I believe that if you simply don't believe mushrooms will hurt you and you take everything they show you in the most positive light and wholly surrender yourself to it (even if it is absolutely horrifying) then they can't hurt you. They were sent/given to help us, not hurt us but their power is not well understood.

But surrendering can  be hard if you have brittle mind structures. You need to make your mind fluid, so it can stretch all over the place like a sapling in the wind. If your mind is really brittle, then you might not be ready for mushrooms or at least prepare yourself for some rough waters. My mind was very brittle when i began using psychedelics but i was determined to trip anyway, come what may. I went through some challenging times and still have challenging experiences but if i could go back i would not change it.





OP listen to this guy. I think i wrote a nightmare trip report about ayahuasca on here a long time ago. I'd link you but I'm embarrassed to read it myself :lol: But i can attest to this. My dose was much much MUCH higher than yours here and it was essentially as bad as a trip could possibly be. I mean,the part where i "came to" felt like a ten strip of LSD. I mean that's the point where i realized i was finally returning. The part where i was stuck the majority of the trip was incomprehensibly deep. I thought ayahuasca was poison. I was cursing and begging people to kill me. I have never felt more broken. I don't know what brought me to keep tripping after that but i did and it sorted itself out. I ultimately got something invaluable from that trip and despite being one of the most terrifying experiences of my life it also became one of the most spiritual. I followed up another ceremony and picked up where i left off in a much better place. My point isn't to say you must trip again. I won't tell you whats right for you. Just know others have been through the same and even worse and came out fine. You'll be okay buddy. But you have to break that reinforcing mentality. It's tough and in fact that was a big part of what i accomplished with ayahuasca. As humans we can reinforce our suffering unconsciously and justify it a million ways. But aya took me so deep into it to the point i couldn't stand being in my own bones. It said "Lets go as deep as this misery gets. You decide where your rock bottom is. But until you consciously turn this around we're just going to see how far we can take this". It brings you to your breaking point and ultimately paradise is for you to create. I don't think you have a physical problem. I think you have a trauma. And for the time being you have to work with it. Don't put expectations on yourself to be anything. Don't get frustrated about who you were before or where you were headed in life. Just be the best you can be in this moment. Look, i've got polyneuropathy, arthritis, myalgia, encephalitis, meningitis, testiculitis, prostatitis, carditis, etc from lyme disease. I'm not who i was. It's only as bad as you make it though. Because of ayahuasca i don't let myself go down that hole. I get up every day and i focus on whats in front of me. I don't mourn the fact that i'm too crippled to pursue grad school. I don't mourn my lack of energy or the constant pain and discomfort. In every moment i just look at what's in front of me and say "what good can i make out of this". Shit son i'm probably happier than i was. I've done so much independent research, read so many cool books, and just in general explored a whole bunch of neat shit since being sick. I keep that light on constantly. Life doesn't owe me anything, it is the greatest gift. I have to be the one to accept it and own it. In my sickness and in my health, every good moment I can make is priceless. And of course, the hardest part is making yourself vulnerable to it again. Telling whatever fear disengaged you from feeling your place in the world fully "you don't serve me any longer, you need to leave". Let your walls down brother. Soften your heart and feel your place again. Don't be afraid that it won't come right away. It will in time.


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    #23802663 - 11/05/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks .

It happened over a year ago ...

I am disable to do things because i am
not even grounded and it sucks , cant even smoke weed it doesnt do anything to me .

I am thinking now of this as an irreparable damage because i have tripped 2.5 g and it barely did anything .

Do you think i must go 5g deep or even deeper and take the risk because i really have nothing to live for in this state , life is useless like this you dont enjoy it and i cant take it much longer it sucks , i rather have something else than this


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    #23802761 - 11/05/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sometimes I wonder if it takes the mushroom that long to work the mental illness out like that's why he's in the trip that long it's just taking the mushroom longer to work.  Or the mental illnesses that deep that it needs I don't know maybe a huge dose to snap back out into reality. 
Other than that lots of great advice here.  At this point are you living a semi-normal life?  If there are no underlying mental illnesses I don't see the harm in another trip a big one because what you going to do get stuck in it you're already stuck according to yourself...  I've often thought to myself what I would do in this situation I would try not to panic and try to comfort myself and really get myself to that this is the new reality or I go balls to the walls and trip again and see what happens see where I might be stuck and find my way out of the damn rabbit hole. Face your fears and beat them into submission with Superior psychology!  Or I could touch the elf and they would take me to play for 500 years something along those lines but I'm okay with any of it.


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    #23802775 - 11/05/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Trippedytrip said:
Thanks .

It happened over a year ago ...

I am disable to do things because i am
not even grounded and it sucks , cant even smoke weed it doesnt do anything to me .

I am thinking now of this as an irreparable damage because i have tripped 2.5 g and it barely did anything .

Do you think i must go 5g deep or even deeper and take the risk because i really have nothing to live for in this state , life is useless like this you dont enjoy it and i cant take it much longer it sucks , i rather have something else than this


Peace



First of all, could you maybe describe in a little more detail how exactly you are 'impaired'? Also, was your trip a traumatic one? Last time I did trip I had some unexpected side-effects as well. Luckily for me they have almost subsided completely (took about 2 months), except my life's views and beliefs, they have been 'damaged' forever, but I consider that a positive effect. Anyway I guess I know 'a little bit' how it feels to be disconnected from reality.
All I can say is that, no matter how bad it is, don't let it rule/ruïn your experience. Find some things that you enjoy and focus on that. I feel my issues started to disappear most quickly when I started to accept what happened and decided to find net meaning to my life again. I have found some things that really interest me, including meditation, and since I do the things I like now I feel less 'impaired' by the after effects of my psychedelic trip.
Also, like some others have said, these effects will most likely subside when you do focus on other things than your issues. I kind of agree that if you believe they will never go away, then that's what will happen.
But yeah, it sounds like your life has been screwed with, but you NEED to find new meaning to your life. I also think it would help if you would keep trying to find alternative healing practices until you find something that might be of help.

Also, I wouldn't try to trip again.

Anyway, hope this helps.


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