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Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times
#23797856 - 11/03/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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A FORMER SOUTH Carolina police officer has gone on trial for murder today for shooting to death an unarmed black man, Walter Scott, as he fled from a traffic stop. Hit by five bullets, 50-year-old Scott fell to the ground and quickly died in the encounter on 4 April 2015 – one of a series of police shootings of unarmed black males that stoked a national outcry over police tactics. In opening arguments before a largely white jury, prosecutor Scarlett Wilson said Michael Slager had shirked his duty when he opened fire on Scott as he ran away. Defense lawyer Andy Savage countered that Scott provoked Slager (34) first by fleeing from the traffic stop, initiating a chase, and then by resisting the policeman “to the extent they were both fighting on the ground”. Savage said the presence of Scott’s DNA on Slager’s Taser indicated he was trying to wrest the weapon away from the police officer, while the prosecution said Scott was instinctively trying to push away the weapon that Slager was painfully discharging into his body. Slager came upon Scott while on routine patrol in North Charleston, South Carolina, a city with a history of strained race relations between the city’s police department and large black community. Slager, who is white, pulled over Scott, who is black, that Saturday morning because one of the tail-lights on Scott’s 1991 Mercedes was not functioning. slager Michael Slager's prison mugshot
Scott soon fled from the car, leading Slager to pursue him. A bystander recorded a portion of their interaction, showing Scott and Slager scuffling briefly before Scott turns again to flee as Slager shoots him multiple times. Within days of the shooting and the emergence of the video Slager was charged with murder and fired from the North Charleston Police Department. The incident became national news, viewed by some as part of a pattern of unjustified fatal police shootings of unarmed black men in the United States. North Charleston Police Chief Eddie Driggers said he was “sickened” by what he saw in the video. To emphasise the prosecution’s contention that the shooting was unlawful, Wilson today walked across the small courtroom, away from the jurors, approximating the distance at which Scott was shot by Slager. Later she mentioned these shots came as Scott was first 17 feet away from Slager, then 35 feet, and finally 50 feet, where he fell and died. She then cast suspicion on Slager’s actions following the shooting, when he allegedly moved the Taser in an effort to support his version of the fatal encounter, which Wilson claimed was untruthful. “Michael Slager’s first instinct wasn’t to give CPR, it wasn’t to give first aid, it was to stage (the scene),” said Wilson, Charleston County’s lead prosecutor. “Flat out wrong” What Michael Slager did to Walter Scott was wrong. It was flat out wrong. Savage claimed Slager acted responsibly as a police officer in pursuing the suspect and did not know Scott had no weapon. “How would he know that he was unarmed? He never had a chance to pat him down,” said Savage. The defence lawyer then ridiculed the prosecution’s assertion that Scott fled the traffic stop because he was wary of being arrested for failing to make child support payments. “They claim to know what was in Walter Scott’s mind,” said Savage. “How do they know that?” After opening arguments the prosecution called their first witnesses, all family members or acquaintances of Scott. The case is being heard by a jury of six white men, five white women and one black man http://www.thejournal.ie/michael-slager-trial-3061924-Nov2016/
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: LobsterSauce] 4
#23797866 - 11/03/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Justice is "supposed" to be colorblind. If that's the case, what difference does it make what color his jurors are?
Race bait much?
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: LobsterSauce]
#23797874 - 11/03/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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"Nearly all-white"
What does that mean?
What's the point of your thread, that some form of injustice is going to take place because the jury has white members? I hardly think they're going to pull an OJ Simpson jury move.
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: qman]
#23797885 - 11/03/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think it will matter here. The case is cut and dry in my opinion.
So who the fuck cares if they're white, must everything nowadays be perfectly mixed and have a purposefully colored roster?
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: ModestMouse] 1
#23797903 - 11/03/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ohh boy. Can't wait to hear about BLM burning down their own towns after this one!
Seriously though OP, this wasn't even worth sharing. More race baiting BS is all it is.
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: Eminence]
#23798089 - 11/03/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't know it was worth reading for this bit:
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Savage said the presence of Scott’s DNA on Slager’s Taser indicated he was trying to wrest the weapon away from the police officer,
So if you get hit with a tazer on your skin, leaving DNA on it, then you had to have been trying to grab the taser away from the cop?

You guys are right that color has no real part in this really. But the question is if the man stopped had been white would the cop have shot him 5 times?
I would say no but who knows for sure Regardless there was no reason for the cop to shoot. He was running away not running to grab a gun from his car...
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: musiclover420]
#23798175 - 11/03/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't know..nobody knows but the cops that were there when it happened. I prefer to not bring up hypothetical scenarios related to race in these situations because it has never solved anything and only stirs more shit for the sake of stirring more shit.
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: Eminence] 2
#23798334 - 11/03/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well considering blacks make up 12% of the population it is close. One black juror of 12 jurors makes him 8.3%. Two blacks would be 16.7%. So one black person on the jury is as close to a fair reprensentation as you can get.
Edited by luvdemboomers (11/03/16 04:56 PM)
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: luvdemboomers]
#23798715 - 11/03/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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at least we know it was not intentional or he would have unloaded all six.
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: LobsterSauce] 2
#23799587 - 11/04/16 01:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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LobsterSauce said: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times
NEARLY ALL WHITE!!! which means it isnt all white and guess what, since you foreigners dont understand our legal system, all it takes is 1 person to hang a jury. we dont work on a majority decision with a jury trial, it works on a unanimous decision by the jury. all 12 members have to find guilt in the defendant for there to be a guilty verdict
so who the fuck cares what the color of a jury is, stop trying to push a racism issue where there isnt one, I know you liberal foreigners love doing that but maybe it's time to look at yourselves, you're the racists
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23799619 - 11/04/16 01:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I completely agree with Pris. The only two cases in recent history where there was a danger of all being one race started because of the Rodney king verdict and there was an all-white jury(some with police ties which is why police cannot be on a jury due to conflict of interest) . And then in retaliation the all black jury acquittal of O.J.
I doubt anyone White, black ,blue ,yellow ,purple ,green or orange would make their decision solely based on race. if I were on an all-white jury and I thought the police officer in question really did murder the victim in question, i'll be that one person who says that's unacceptable. No matter what color the victim, I would NEVER reduce a murder trial to a race decision. That's asinine
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: LobsterSauce]
#23799636 - 11/04/16 02:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I got a black coworker who was complaining about all white juries not too long ago -- but his beef was more directed at his own race. According to him, he said that courts often end up with predominantly white juries because so many black folks skip out on jury duty.
I have no idea how accurate that is, by the way. I don't know the statistics.
But that was his point of view for whatever it's worth.
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: Niffla] 1
#23799641 - 11/04/16 02:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol I've heard a couple black people say that before too. It's most likely a lot more accurate than a racist looking for an all white jury.
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: starfire_xes]
#23799724 - 11/04/16 04:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: vinsue]
#23799733 - 11/04/16 04:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow. What a lazy bitch, couldn't even be bothered to run after him for 50 feet before pulling out a gun. The dude that got shot was only moving at a jogging pace too.
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: Eminence]
#23799769 - 11/04/16 05:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I think if any of these media cases ends in a conviction it will be this one. White jury or not - it's painfully obvious how unnecessary the shooting was.
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23799794 - 11/04/16 05:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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LobsterSauce said: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times
NEARLY ALL WHITE!!! which means it isnt all white and guess what, since you foreigners dont understand our legal system, all it takes is 1 person to hang a jury. we dont work on a majority decision with a jury trial, it works on a unanimous decision by the jury. all 12 members have to find guilt in the defendant for there to be a guilty verdict
so who the fuck cares what the color of a jury is, stop trying to push a racism issue where there isnt one, I know you liberal foreigners love doing that but maybe it's time to look at yourselves, you're the racists
It would be ignorant to disagree with this^^
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: Niffla]
#23799798 - 11/04/16 05:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Niffla said: I got a black coworker who was complaining about all white juries not too long ago -- but his beef was more directed at his own race. According to him, he said that courts often end up with predominantly white juries because so many black folks skip out on jury duty.
I have no idea how accurate that is, by the way. I don't know the statistics.
But that was his point of view for whatever it's worth.
People who do drugs (of all races) often skip out too. It's ironic that they are some of the only people who could really aid a fellow mushroom grower or weed smoker but they don't.
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23801755 - 11/04/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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LobsterSauce said: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times
NEARLY ALL WHITE!!! which means it isnt all white and guess what, since you foreigners dont understand our legal system, all it takes is 1 person to hang a jury. we dont work on a majority decision with a jury trial, it works on a unanimous decision by the jury. all 12 members have to find guilt in the defendant for there to be a guilty verdict
so who the fuck cares what the color of a jury is, stop trying to push a racism issue where there isnt one, I know you liberal foreigners love doing that but maybe it's time to look at yourselves, you're the racists
Federally yes, but not all states require a unanimous decision.
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Re: Nearly all-white jury at trial of police officer who shot unarmed black man five times [Re: FreeTheSoul]
#23801856 - 11/04/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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South Carolina..
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