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Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person.
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I never knew much about him, but I did about 15 minutes of research on Wikipedia. It turns out that he has accomplished all sorts of things. He has climbed the Seven Summits (including Mt. Kilimanjaro), participates in triathlons, and has also competed three times in Iron Man competitions. He built the house he lives in himself, and he started his own construction company while in college that eventually became one of the leading construction companies in New Mexico.
Just wanted to put that out there...I'm not a big political person, but I voted for him because he actually seems like a positive candidate that I would be proud to say I voted for. I don't think I can look somebody in the face and try to justify why I voted for Trump or Clinton.
Don't listen to the old cliches that you have to vote for Trump or Clinton so that the other doesn't win. Your individual vote is not going to influence the outcome of the election. If anything it is just an expression of your opinion about who the best candidate is.
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I have a feeling he's going to be getting more votes than he's projected to
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Gary Johnson's running mate is voting for Clinton. 
Seriously tho have you ever seen him interviewed? He's dumb as a bag of bricks.
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Apparently he can't even name any world leaders. Also, what was up with this whole thing?
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Eminence]
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Eminence]
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Eminence said: Apparently he can't even name any world leaders. Also, what was up with this whole thing?
That was in the context of a joke...was that really an issue at all? The worst that you can say about it is that it was kind of weird. He clearly did not do it in a pervy way.
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I didn't imply it was pervy. I just wasn't sure what the hell he was getting at with it.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: koods]
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koods said: Gary Johnson's running mate is voting for Clinton. 
Seriously tho have you ever seen him interviewed? He's dumb as a bag of bricks.
He has created and run successful businesses, built his own house, graduated from college (at a time when it actually meant something), and has been the governor of a state for multiple terms. I don't think he's as dumb as you would like to believe.
Are there specific points in specific interviews that you would like to point out as cases of him appearing dumb?
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: koods]
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Weakest libertarian presidential candidate in a long while.
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koods said: Gary Johnson's running mate is voting for Clinton. 
Seriously tho have you ever seen him interviewed? He's dumb as a bag of bricks.
I don't think he's dumb necessarily, just ignorant on a lot of issues he shouldn't be. He thinks too hard on questions that require a delicate balance between libertarian idealism and practical government and botches the answers to avoid upsetting just about anyone. Instead of upsetting any idealists, he merely comes off looking dumb instead.
He'll have a good year for libertarian candidates, but that is because the major candidate are so divisive. He lacks much charisma, consistency and debate skill that a real third party candidate needs.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Eminence]
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Eminence said: I didn't imply it was pervy. I just wasn't sure what the hell he was getting at with it.
He said something like, "I could stand up there for the whole debate and not say anything..." The point is that it followed the context of what he was saying in some way.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Eminence]
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That was Gary's not so subtle way of showing how he'd eat her out
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Eminence]
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Eminence said: Apparently he can't even name any world leaders. Also, what was up with this whole thing?
It's a loaded question. You'd find most libertarians hard pressed to answer the question without writing an essay on it. He obviously knows of world leaders, but any answer would have been antithetical to core libertarian principles for one reason or another. It was a shot for sound bites. Unfortunately he gave them a better sound bite than anyone could have anticipated.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: PatrickKn]
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To be fair he is a weak candidate in many ways, but my original post was basically saying that he at least seems like he is an interesting person. He seems motivated, driven and goal-oriented, which I think are good traits for someone in a management position, and he is also not shady (like Clinton) or a douchebag (like Trump).
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koods said: Gary Johnson's running mate is voting for Clinton. 
Seriously tho have you ever seen him interviewed? He's dumb as a bag of bricks.
He has created and run successful businesses, built his own house, graduated from college (at a time when it actually meant something), and has been the governor of a state for multiple terms. I don't think he's as dumb as you would like to believe.
Are there specific points in specific interviews that you would like to point out as cases of him appearing dumb?
I'm not going to even waste my time finding examples. He pretty much blows every interview. He's also a libertarian which is a disgusting, morally bankrupt political ideology
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koods said: Gary Johnson's running mate is voting for Clinton. 
Seriously tho have you ever seen him interviewed? He's dumb as a bag of bricks.
He has created and run successful businesses, built his own house, graduated from college (at a time when it actually meant something), and has been the governor of a state for multiple terms. I don't think he's as dumb as you would like to believe.
Are there specific points in specific interviews that you would like to point out as cases of him appearing dumb?
I'm not going to even waste my time finding examples. He pretty much blows every interview. He's also a libertarian which is a disgusting, morally bankrupt political ideology
Gary Johnson is a much better candidate than Hillary. Definitely vote for him.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: koods]
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koods said: Gary Johnson's running mate is voting for Clinton. 
Seriously tho have you ever seen him interviewed? He's dumb as a bag of bricks.
He clearly lacks the skills to become a multimillionaire from starting a charity
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Since GJ has no realistic chance of winning, my vote went to the Libertarian party to do my part getting them to the 5% the party needs for federal money next election cycle. I've voted Lib since my first vote in 2004. 2016 will be the year the Lib party truly started its ascent to becoming a legit third party this country so desperately needs. A third party would hold accountable the entrenched two parties that rely on each others' power to limit competition and keep things going in one of two predictable directions. Third party pulls the rug out on that bullshit. But they need 5% of the popular vote for federal handjobs, and that'll go a long way to getting them on the debate stage in 2020 which is the goal for right now. Donald Trump's insurgency campaign has all but guaranteed the 5% Lib vote this cycle.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: abltsandwich]
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I too am hopeful for a viable third party, breaking the monopoly of the Washington elite corruption of dems and republicans is all but essential to ensuring a future for America. This year Trump is the most viable "alt candidate" to oppose the status quo
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: koods]
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koods said: Gary Johnson's running mate is voting for Clinton. 
Seriously tho have you ever seen him interviewed? He's dumb as a bag of bricks.
He has created and run successful businesses, built his own house, graduated from college (at a time when it actually meant something), and has been the governor of a state for multiple terms. I don't think he's as dumb as you would like to believe.
Are there specific points in specific interviews that you would like to point out as cases of him appearing dumb?
I'm not going to even waste my time finding examples. He pretty much blows every interview. He's also a libertarian which is a disgusting, morally bankrupt political ideology
Very well, don't provide any examples if you don't want to. But just be aware that when you are unwilling to back up your arguments with concrete details, it makes it appear as if your case has no legs to stand on.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: abltsandwich]
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I would like to add that I have heard "somewhere" that a majority of Americans aren't even aware that the Libertarian Party exists. That baffles me that such ignorance and lack of information exists. To be unaware that there are other choices out there is astounding.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Patlal]
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I would think even koods would know that neither the democratic or republican party are at all wholesome. Usually I don't listen to PeyoteZen much. In a different thread he said " You're not a libertarian" "Just fascinated by drug laws , he said "a slightly more tolerable liberal" and for the first time this election I completely agree with him. what really happened to me during this election was I got to a point where I personally feel if I voted for either Frump or Capitol HillCog
i'd be betraying everything that I've built my morals, understanding, open-mindedness and in my opinion many other progressive thinking that'd be stifled from both major parties.
However I do like a lot of libertarian values , Government in general is extremely oppressive, helps some people while draining others. The government should be able to tell us what to do and being self-sufficient wouldnt be the worst thing in the world.in many places around the world, they Institute trash collecting services that are not sponsored by the government. Often use solar panels, building a house from scratch. To me it kind of came down to " Government leaves me alone and I'll leave them alone "Quote:
Patlal said: Just about anybody looks like an awesome person next to Trump and Hillary
True that
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he's a weirdo and about as libertarian as Pol Pot
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Yeah go ahead and compare him to a person who has committed genocide on a massive scale. I'm sure Johnson is just that bad. I'll entertain you for a second though,what exactly does Gary Johnson do or say that isn't libertarianism?
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he supports the TPP and think's that bakers should be forced to sell gay wedding cakes. he's EXACTLY like Pol Pot
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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You mean Pol Pot actually forced bakers to sell gay wedding cakes? He's worse than I thought!
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That didn't get a lot of attention due to the genocide.
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Patlal said: Just about anybody looks like an awesome person next to Trump and Hillary
Well that's just the thing. This year the two major third party candidates are quite weak even when compared to Trump and Clinton. Where Trump and Clinton lack in ideology and policy, the other two lack in leadership qualities, charisma and ability to really move people. I'd argue that Johnson lacks in both areas honestly, and really only has strong policy ideas in the very basic of most libertarian idealism, doesn't even seem like he has most of the practical stuff worked out.
I was a libertarian for a while, but I've moved far away from that over the years. Mainly because the ideas aren't always practical. I'd find myself occasionally defending or arguing against certain ideas for the sake of remaining ideologically consistent, as opposed to looking at it from a practical point of view. That's not a very good way to run government imo (anymore). A move to stricter constitutionalism is one thing, but a complete rejection of everything government down to the building of roads and the management of schools is a step in the wrong direction - and perhaps most importantly - not practical in any facet.
The tea party taught me that libertarian ideas can get through, but it's going to be all the bad ones. The few good ideas that make the party worth voting for never get incorporated into neither the conservative nor liberal parties, and you're truly left with consistently shitty policy. It's time for a new third party that isn't the extreme version of the two existing parties, but something even more moderate. In my opinion.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: koods]
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That didn't get a lot of attention due to the genocide.
Leave it to the media to ignore the most important issues, and distract us with petty BS.
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Every voting American should know that, I mean hello it's one of the party options listed when you register to vote.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: koods]
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koods said: Gary Johnson's running mate is voting for Clinton. 
Seriously tho have you ever seen him interviewed? He's dumb as a bag of bricks.
Gary Johnson is arguably the worst presidential candidate the libertarian party has ever had since Bob Barr.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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Seriously tho have you ever seen him interviewed? He's dumb as a bag of bricks.
Gary Johnson is arguably the worst presidential candidate the libertarian party has ever had since Bob Barr.
Progressives will never get behind a libertarian candidate, the idea of cutting taxes on the middle class is something which they cannot abide
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Gary Johnson is a moron.
I think less of every single person who advocates his candidacy. Including you, OP. I thought you were cool...
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Seriously tho have you ever seen him interviewed? He's dumb as a bag of bricks.
Gary Johnson is arguably the worst presidential candidate the libertarian party has ever had since Bob Barr.
Progressives will never get behind a libertarian candidate, the idea of cutting taxes on the middle class is something which they cannot abide
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I think less of every single person who advocates his candidacy. Including you, OP. I thought you were cool...
Case in point, the guy has served 8 years as governor; you can read more about his business and political life here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Yeah, unlike you, I form opinions AFTER I get the facts. I know all about Johnson. He's a moron.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Well that's some great political analysis you have there. Good job
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: hostileuniverse]
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson
This means absolutely nothing coming from a presidential candidate, just like Celestial Traveler's comment about him graduating from college means nothing.
Politicians always start out first as mayor or as congressman first, and then move on to senator or governor, eventually making their way to the top positions like President, Department of Treasury, Supreme Court justice, etc.
So, yeah, no shit he has experience as a politician. That's to be expected... of EVERY candidate.
Just like how EVERY candidate has a college degree. Virtually all politicians either have MBA's or PhD's or JD's.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson
This means absolutely nothing coming from a presidential candidate, just like Celestial Traveler's comment about him graduating from college means nothing.
Politicians always start out first as mayor or as congressman first, and then move on to senator or governor, eventually making their way to the top positions like President, Department of Treasury, Supreme Court justice, etc.
So, yeah, no shit he has experience as a politician. That's to be expected... of EVERY candidate.
Just like how EVERY candidate has a college degree. Virtually all politicians either have MBA's or PhD's or JD's.
I was responding to the "he's dumb" type comments, he obviously isn't.
But then I guess unless you've become a multil millionaire by starting a charity, one simply isn't qualified to be president in this day and age
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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But then I guess unless you've become a multil millionaire by starting a charity, one simply isn't qualified to be president in this day and age
I find it amusing that you of all people is a staunch supporter of Johnson, considering he is the biggest social justice warrior candidate ever.
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But then I guess unless you've become a multil millionaire by starting a charity, one simply isn't qualified to be president in this day and age
I find it amusing that you of all people is a staunch supporter of Johnson, considering he is the biggest social justice warrior candidate ever.
When did I say I supported him?
I don't care for the vast majority of his policies
I just don't think he's dumb,
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I think less of every single person who advocates his candidacy. Including you, OP. I thought you were cool...
I think less of you for not backing up your argument that he is a moron with reasons why you think he's a moron.
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If you look at my OP I never said he was a great candidate. I said I think he's an awesome person. He seems real, not fake, not a douchebag, and not a moron. A moron would not be capable of accomplishing the things that he has accomplished.
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Other then his hotels and kids name some of his accomplishments
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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But then I guess unless you've become a multil millionaire by starting a charity, one simply isn't qualified to be president in this day and age

To be fair those are definitely derp moments. But what it shows is that he is misinformed, not a moron. A lot of Americans who are of above-average IQ probably don't know what Aleppo is or about other foreign events simply because they don't care, or they're too busy with other things in their life to keep track of these things.
As a politician (and especially a presidential candidate), it's absolutely terrible that he's so clueless about what's going on in the rest of the world, but that doesn't reflect on his ability to reason or his general level of intellect.
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I named them in my OP. Read my OP.
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It's time for a new third party that isn't the extreme version of the two existing parties, but something even more moderate. In my opinion.
Agreed, the red vs blue mentality is sinking the ship.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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hostileuniverse said: Case in point, the guy has served 8 years as governor; you can read more about his business and political life here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson
This means absolutely nothing coming from a presidential candidate, just like Celestial Traveler's comment about him graduating from college means nothing.
Politicians always start out first as mayor or as congressman first, and then move on to senator or governor, eventually making their way to the top positions like President, Department of Treasury, Supreme Court justice, etc.
So, yeah, no shit he has experience as a politician. That's to be expected... of EVERY candidate.
Just like how EVERY candidate has a college degree. Virtually all politicians either have MBA's or PhD's or JD's.
You're leaving out the context of the original argument. The reason for pointing out that he was the governor of a state for several years (and a successful one according to many people) and a college graduate was not to argue that those traits made him a good candidate. It was to argue that he's not a moron. I would not expect a moron to be able to do the things that he has done.
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Not because I care for him, but to, as highly unlikely as it is, contribute to the breakdown of the red vs. blue game.
Sadly, Gary Johnson is not too great of a candidate, in all reality. For the simple fact that he didn't prepare enough to answer questions about controversial things.
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I think less of every single person who advocates his candidacy. Including you, OP. I thought you were cool...
I think less of you for not backing up your argument that he is a moron with reasons why you think he's a moron. 
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The Ecstatic said: Gary Johnson is a moron.
I think less of every single person who advocates his candidacy. Including you, OP. I thought you were cool...
I think less of you for not backing up your argument that he is a moron with reasons why you think he's a moron. 
That's his MO, insult people, he really acts like a complet asshole to those he disagrees with
As for GJ, he's definitely not stupid, but for the liberals, everyone who disagrees with their world outlook is stupid. Hence, all the hatred for him.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Nah I keep my political analysis in the Political Discussion but youre banned from there for insulting me.
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Something something pot meet kettle.
Banned for spelling your name wrong, you can stop lying
Insults?
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And many more,
I live rent rent free in your tiny little head, don't I? glad to see you still think enough of me to constantly troll and insult me
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Youre a bad liar, amongst other things.
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If you think spastic is anywhere close to the spelling of ecstatic youre dumber than I thought.
You got banned for name calling, even though you pussy ache about name calling.
Go create a sub called Safe Space and you can post all your inane bullshit in there and insult whomever irks your increasingly sensitive disposition.
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I have decided to vote GJ as well. I actually identify with some his core beliefs.. not all but some. but more importantly, I dont think I could look at myself in the mirror in the morning if I voted for Trump, and much much less HRC...
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The Ecstatic said: Gary Johnson is a moron.
I think less of every single person who advocates his candidacy. Including you, OP. I thought you were cool...
I think less of you for not backing up your argument that he is a moron with reasons why you think he's a moron. 
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: ManianFH]
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My question is how'd he get a bunch of youngers in college n stuff to support him? What was his strategy?.. 
Also, why does he look a lot like Wayne from honey I shrunk the kids?..
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You got banned for name calling, even though you pussy ache about name calling.
Go create a sub called Safe Space and you can post all your inane bullshit in there and insult whomever irks your increasingly sensitive disposition.
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You're leaving out the context of the original argument. The reason for pointing out that he was the governor of a state for several years (and a successful one according to many people) and a college graduate was not to argue that those traits made him a good candidate. It was to argue that he's not a moron. I would not expect a moron to be able to do the things that he has done.
Really? You want me to remind you that Bush Jr. has an MBA from Yale, and was also governor of Texas before becoming President?
I mean by your standards, literally every politician throughout history has never been a moron.
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Jesse Ventura was a governor, so clearly you have be neither smart nor sane to become a governor.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger was our governor for like 8 years
I still wonder to this day just how California could ever elect that guy as governor
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To be fair those are definitely derp moments. But what it shows is that he is misinformed, not a moron. A lot of Americans who are of above-average IQ probably don't know what Aleppo is or about other foreign events simply because they don't care, or they're too busy with other things in their life to keep track of these things.
As a politician (and especially a presidential candidate), it's absolutely terrible that he's so clueless about what's going on in the rest of the world, but that doesn't reflect on his ability to reason or his general level of intellect.
What are you talking about, as a politician it's his JOB to know what's going on around the world.
So, at best, he's an uninformed politician and incompetent at what he does, who even knows if he would ever read a bill from front to back before signing anything?
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The dude went out of his way to keep the door open for Hillary bot 2.0 jill stain
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Really? You think Jill Stein is a Hill bot?
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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I still wonder to this day just how California could ever elect that guy as governor 
I honestly have no idea what the general opinion of Schwarzenegger in CA was as governor, but I probably couldn't help but think it'd be pretty cool if he was governor here if he at least wasn't total shit at it. That dude is a legend and one of the best American success stories ever.
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I still wonder to this day just how California could ever elect that guy as governor 
I honestly have no idea what the general opinion of Schwarzenegger in CA was as governor, but I probably couldn't help but think it'd be pretty cool if he was governor here if he at least wasn't total shit at it. That dude is a legend and one of the best American success stories ever.
Just like TRUMP!
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They've always been a joke, but at the same time they're not.. Cuz although they may be jokesters they have the power to put u in prison for no reason at all.. They have the power to send u and ur children to war to die.. It perplexes me why peeps even vote, if nobody voted we'd find out real quick how very little rights we have..
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You're leaving out the context of the original argument. The reason for pointing out that he was the governor of a state for several years (and a successful one according to many people) and a college graduate was not to argue that those traits made him a good candidate. It was to argue that he's not a moron. I would not expect a moron to be able to do the things that he has done.
Really? You want me to remind you that Bush Jr. has an MBA from Yale, and was also governor of Texas before becoming President?
I mean by your standards, literally every politician throughout history has never been a moron.
Let me try to answer both your responses in one. I think that in your haste to make a counterargument you're not reading my posts. You've made several straw man arguments already. For one, I never said that he is a good candidate. Yes, I agree that his lack of knowledge about Aleppo and foreign leaders shows that he is uninformed. I think this is particularly bad for a politician, even worse for a presidential candidate, and even worse considering that he's a candidate for Libertarians, who love to shove it in everyone's face that the other two parties have no idea what they're doing when it comes to foreign policy. It makes it look like the entire non-intervention platform stands on weak legs.
The only arguments that I've made about Gary Johnson thus far, are that he seems like an awesome person (not candidate), and that he is not a moron.
I agree that his status as a college graduate does little to guarantee his intelligence. That was not the main reason I thought him not to be a moron though; that was just something I threw in with the stronger reasons why I don't think he's a moron, which are:
(1) He has built his own house. He literally lives in a house that he himself built. Would you expect a moron to be able to do that?
(2) He was the governor of a U.S. state for eight years. Someone who is an incompetent moron cannot be given the reigns of an entire state for that long without tearing it to shreds. And I don't know his approval ratings or anything, but I've heard from many sources that he actually did a pretty good job.
(3) He started his own business while in college, and it grew to become one of the biggest construction businesses in New Mexico.
I might also point to his athletic accomplishments (climbing the Seven Summits, triathlons, Iron Man, etc) as a sign of "at-least-somewhere-near-average" intelligence, but it would be hard to argue why.
I just feel that somebody who has accomplished all the things that he has accomplished in life has to have at least some form of baseline competency. The fact that he's said dumb things in interviews or stuck his tongue out at a reporter anytime doesn't make him a moron, or speak to his general level of intellect. And I don't think that being misinformed about Syria makes him a moron, although it is bad.
As a candidate, sure he has weaknesses. I just like what I know about him as a person so far. He seems like someone who lives the fuck out of life, and like someone who is genuine. That's more than I can say about any of the other two "candidates."
P.S. I don't feel like going too far down this road...but let me add that one could debate whether George Bush Jr. is actually a moron. You also use Arnold as an example of how being a governor doesn't guarantee intelligence. But are any of these two really dumb? HAs it actually been formally proven that they're morons? I mean, you're making that argument based entirely on cultural memes that they are retarded. There's not scientific evidence that either of them are retarded, as far as I'm aware. Bad leaders? Sure, perhaps...but widespread opinion of Arnold's performance as governor is much different than that of Johnson's performance. Anyways...
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What do you mean he himself built, as in he built the entire thing with his own hands, or he developed the blueprints and general layout of the house and hired a team to assemble his house? Because I sincerely doubt he installed all the plumbing and foundation and everything himself.
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Well, this is exactly why we mentioned GW Bush JR, Jesse Ventura, and Arnold Schwarzenegger earlier. Because clearly you don't have to be smart to become a governor.
I would just like to add (since you mentioned something about being able to run the state without tearing it to shreds) that he, as presidential candidate, has proposed a 43% cut on the federal budget. Which is not only implausible, even conservatives warn that it would lead to destruction of the nation.
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That's pure luck, has nothing to do with intellect. Unless you are implying that only smart people end up with successful businesses, while dumb people's startups fail, which we all know isn't true. Trump isn't that smart either, he's just an average guy with a bloated ego who got lucky and had lots of wealth and connections on his side.
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I might also point to his athletic accomplishments (climbing the Seven Summits, triathlons, Iron Man, etc) as a sign of "at-least-somewhere-near-average" intelligence, but it would be hard to argue why.
Athletic accomplishments have little to do with intellect. Some of the dumbest people you will ever meet are pro athletes (Mike Tyson for instance, I strongly believe from watching his interviews that he is mentally disabled with an IQ of about 60).
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Is he a likable person, sure. He's a funny guy. But smart?
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It depends how you define intelligence, but I assure you when I speak of a politician's intelligence, I'm not referring to their ability to solve math equations.
GW Bush Jr is most definitely an imbecile.
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From what I'm reading, he built his house with his own hands: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435037/gary-johnson-libertarian-party-presidential-candidates-moment-now http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/12106904/Libertarian-presidential-candidate-Gary-Johnson-says-time-is-right-for-the-party-of-principle-in-the-White-House.html I could post more, but you could just Google it. I understand skepticism but I think he actually did build it himself from what I can find.
As far as his athletic accomplishments and entrepreneurship go, those things display traits that I consider to be related to intelligence. I think you have to be somewhat intelligent to be as self-made as he is. And his business success is not comparable to Trump. Trump inherited wealth from his father. Gary Johnson started his own business while he was in college and was its only employee for awhile. He truly started from the ground up without handicaps, unlike Trump, and without Skull & Bones connections like the Bush's had.
And ultimately you still haven't given solid reasons for why we can assume GWB JR (or Mike Tyson) are actually dumb, outside of personal gut feeling. But what this argument is really boiling down to is defining intelligence, which is something that could go on forever.
The bottom line is I don't think GJ is dumb or a moron. You might believe that and we'll just have to disagree. I don't think that you've provided sufficient evidence that he is a moron though. I don't think that being uninformed about Syria or other foreign matters says anything about his general intellect or ability to analyze information and come to logical conclusions. It's definitely bad for a candidate not to know those things, but I don't think that that alone makes him a moron. As far as interviews go, people sometimes get nervous and say dumb shit that they don't mean when they're under pressure. I am very bad at this myself...and even if we were to conclude definitively that he is a moron, then it would only show that a moron is capable of governing successfully, as he did in New Mexico in the eyes of many.
I'm not crazy about him as a candidate so I don't have much of a dog in this fight either way, but I just thought it was nice to have someone who was at least a decent person running for office that I felt I could trust, and was not a criminal or a douchebag.
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Unfortunately, To some people, anyone who isn't a liberal democrat, is stupid
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Unfortunately, To some people, anyone who is a liberal democrat, is stupid 
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Unfortunately, To some people, anyone who is a liberal democrat, is stupid 
Misquoting people is about as douchebag as it gets
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I'm sure he just spelled it wrong. Stop with the insults, geez.
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Stop derailing the thread, and stop with the insults.
Dont call people douchebags or trolls because they disagree with you.
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All these threads are is the same.. Geez Louis..
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Unfortunately, To some people, anyone who is a liberal democrat, is stupid 
Misquoting people is about as douchebag as it gets
Just saying
Actually I'm making a point.I just think it's incredibly ironic that you call democrats "libtards,brain damaged,idiots " and then turn around and say "Unfortunately to some people,anyone who isn't a liberal democrat,is stupid". That's exactly what you do everyday to democrats here or anyone that doesn't like Trump.
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Actually I don't, you project all opposition to liberal ideas as that, I actually contribute instead of just hurling insults, you should try it, it's actually fun
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Patlal said: Just about anybody looks like an awesome person next to Trump and Hillary
If only Rand Paul had ran Libertarian, instead of Republican. He was the best candidate, but he got lost in the sauce during that whole circus that has been the Trump campaign. Of course mainstream media forced him out by not including him in debates even when he met the criteria.
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I thought Rand Paul was cool at first, not just cool but I thought he'd actually make a great candidate, I even signed up to his newsletters, but then like all I'd get in the emails was him begging for money, like " dear patriot, our gov has been hijacked, plz give me money cuz I need it to run for president" like wtf?..
I was even thinking of donating but figured fuck this shit, I'm so glad I didn't, all these people care about is money..
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Rand is a hack like his father, libertarianism is a flop.
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The biggest difference between libertarianism and liberalism is libertarians don't wanna raise taxes on the middle class, buncha fucking losers
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The biggest difference between libertarianism and liberalism is libertarians don't wanna raise taxes on the middle class, buncha fucking losers
People and especially businesses, cannot govern themselves, this has been demonstrated time and again. The BLM and USDA exist because of the insane practices of ranchers and etc private interests. Then we have child labor laws and protections for disabled people (etc).
That's what socialism is, the government becoming involved and fixing problems. If there's any fault with its application, that's at the fault of the people for not holding politicians accountable.
Libertarianism on the other-hand is a move away from the government having a hand, in a fundamentally run libertarian government there wouldn't be a BLM or USDA, so we would see the timber industry tear down whole states worth of lumber again, ranchers overgrazing and increasing soil degradation / desertification on an equal scale, etc. We also wouldn't have laws keeping children out of sweat factories, or those laws protecting gays/disabled etc, which exist for a reason.
Libertarianism is a half-baked philosophy, it serves the interests of the powerful who need oversight. Socialism is nothing more than we make it, the rules and policies we allow as a society.
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Actually, socialism is defined as public ownership of the means of production.
The government regulates businesses, but they dont own them.
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The government regulates businesses, but they dont own them.
That's par for the course depending on the industry
You're right though I'm not using the right term, I'm referring to what libertarianism is not, government involvement vs passive government.
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Pretty much everything except anarchy is to the left of libertarianism, that just highlights how batshit of a philosophy it is.
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Yep, good thing we have daddy govt to micromanage every fucking aspect of our lives 
That's what voting's for, if you don't like a law - vote against it.
You don't throw your car away when you run out of gas, its illogical to throw out government because you disagree with a law.
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People and especially businesses, cannot govern themselves
Yep, good thing we have daddy govt to micromanage every fucking aspect of our lives 
That's what voting's for, if you don't like a law - vote against it.
You don't throw your car away when you run out of gas, its illogical to throw out government because you disagree with a law.
I couldn't agree more, it's too bad most people are sheep and have grown accustomed to having govt control
Freedom is something despised more than cherished in today's culture
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Yep, good thing we have daddy govt to micromanage every fucking aspect of our lives 
That's what voting's for, if you don't like a law - vote against it.
You don't throw your car away when you run out of gas, its illogical to throw out government because you disagree with a law.
I couldn't agree more, it's too bad most people are sheep and have grown accustomed to having govt control
Good thing you just changed the quote in your sig that completely contradicts that admission.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Freedom is something despised more than cherished in today's culture
  
if it isn't "your type" of freedom your culture does the same....but still...DOWN WITH THE MARXIST SCHOOL-TEACHERS POISONING OUR YOUTH...DAMN LIBERAL ARTS!
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And ultimately you still haven't given solid reasons for why we can assume GWB JR (or Mike Tyson) are actually dumb, outside of personal gut feeling. But what this argument is really boiling down to is defining intelligence, which is something that could go on forever.
LOL, it's called "analysis," not "gut feeling."
You can tell a lot about a person's intellect by watching their interviews. I could tell Mike Tyson was a dummy simply by watching him speak.
Seriously, watch Michio Kaku speak, and then watch Mike Tyson or GW Bush Jr speak side by side. You really can't tell that one person is clearly more intelligent than the other?
Hell, even compare somebody who isn't an academic, somebody who is more average or normal, to Mike Tyson... watch a comedian like Chris Rock speak, and then watch Mike Tyson speak... you really can't tell that Chris Rock is a lot more intelligent than Mike Tyson?
And it turns out I was right, I am reading about Mike Tyson's past right now. Turns out Time Magazine did a story on him in the late 80's. It was stated that his academic counselor in junior high school gave him an IQ test, and the results showed Mike Tyson to be "mildly retarded," with an IQ of somewhere in his 70's. He was therefore classified as "learning disabled" at the age of 11.
Remember when he was serving a 6 year prison sentence for rape? That's when he was able to raise his reading level from 4th grade to 12th grade, and pass his GED as an adult.
So of course, it comes as no surprise to me that Mike Tyson is voting for Donald Trump.
The fact that you even QUESTION that somebody is able to discern another person's intelligence by simply observing them, makes me legitimately wonder and worry about you.
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Also in Donald Trumps documentary Mike Tyson says Donald paid him more then any other fight prometer he had . 20million $ a fight Tyson claimed
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Yeah, but Ben Carson also supports Trump. And this guy supports Hillary, sooo..do you still wanna use that argument?
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This is one of my primary reasons I find trump unacceptable. The way he speaks demonstrates his inability to focus on anything for more than 30 seconds. He literally distracts himself with his own words. I'm not saying he's dumb, but he is very intellectually undisciplined and a very sloppy thinker.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: koods]
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koods said: This is one of my primary reasons I find trump unacceptable. The way he speaks demonstrates his inability to focus on anything for more than 30 seconds. He literally distracts himself with his own words. I'm not saying he's dumb, but he is very intellectually undisciplined and a very sloppy thinker.
Trump is not at all an intellectual type. In some ways this has turned out in his favor though, in terms of amassing the types of people who vote for him. Trump statistically is far more popular with uneducated poor whites, which is something that other candidates tend to lack popularity in.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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Why are poor uneducated whites so hated by the left?
Are their votes worth less?
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Are their votes worth less?
Let me guess, you're one of them.
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Are their votes worth less?
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Are their votes worth less?
I can understand why youre sympathetic, but no.
You cant pussyache about the Democrats not liking poor uneducated whites just because thats the only demo the GOP has on lock.
Let me try: Why is literally every other demo hated by the right?
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Are their votes worth less?
Let me guess, you're one of them.
Can you answer without personal attacks? Or is that all you have?
On second thought, never mind, I already know the answer
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Are their votes worth less?
I can understand why youre sympathetic, but no.
You cant pussyache about the Democrats not liking poor uneducated whites just because thats the only demo the GOP has on lock.
Let me try: Why is literally every other demo hated by the right?
I just asked a question, I'm laughing you got so triggered by it
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Are their votes worth less?
Let me guess, you're one of them.
Can you answer without personal attacks? Or is that all you have?
On second thought, never mind, I already know the answer
I'm guessing because you're making straw mans and seem to be especially butthurt at the mere mention of "poor uneducated whites." Did I insinuate anything about them, except that Trump has the majority of their votes?
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Are their votes worth less?
I can understand why youre sympathetic, but no.
You cant pussyache about the Democrats not liking poor uneducated whites just because thats the only demo the GOP has on lock.
Let me try: Why is literally every other demo hated by the right?
I just asked a question, I'm laughing you got so triggered by it
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Are their votes worth less?
That's funny, because the left is full of poor uneducated whites.
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Are their votes worth less?
I can understand why youre sympathetic, but no.
You cant pussyache about the Democrats not liking poor uneducated whites just because thats the only demo the GOP has on lock.
Let me try: Why is literally every other demo hated by the right?
I just asked a question, I'm laughing you got so triggered by it
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Are their votes worth less?
Often they're poor and uneducated due to poor decision making, and now they're doing it again with their vote.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: koods]
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Are their votes worth less?
Often they're poor and uneducated due to poor decision making, and now they're doing it again with their vote.
How would voting for Hillary help the poor and uneducated?
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Generally speaking, voting for Democrats means that more budgeting is allocated for school funding. How do massive budget cuts help the poor and uneducated?
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Is underfunding why so many are uneducated?
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Is underfunding why so many are uneducated?
Certainly policies such as Bush's "No Child Left Behind," which cut funding from schools that didn't place high scores on standardized exams didn't help. There are schools out there using books that are outdated by 20 years, with underpaid staff that don't properly teach.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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Is underfunding why so many are uneducated?
Certainly policies such as Bush's "No Child Left Behind," which cut funding from schools that didn't place high scores on standardized exams didn't help.
That was also written by Ted Kennedy, a democrat and george Miller, another democrat. If yoUre gonna blame a program for creating stupid people, at least have the intellectual honesty to give credit where it belongs
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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The point here is that you are just arbitrarily labeling other people morons with very little to no proof or reasoning whatsoever. So it happened to turn out that one of the people you labeled a moron did have a low IQ (not much of a surprise when taking constant blows to the head is part of that person's profession). That does not mean that your gut feeling - I mean - "analysis" (it's not analysis btw, analysis is more formal and done by professionals) on every single person's intelligence is scientific and objective in nature.
While I didn't like GWB as a person or a candidate, people often call him a moron just because of his Texan accent and their ignorant stereotypes about Southerners, or because they don't agree with his political views. Having a Southern accent because you were born and raised in the South does not make you a moron. Having bad grammar here and there does not make you a moron. I have never talked to someone extensively who didn't split an infinitive or make some other common grammatical error that many of us don't even realize are errors.
Pointing out that Mike Tyson did in fact have a low IQ still does nothing to support your idea that Gary Johnson is a moron. People can sometimes be smarter than they appear at first, especially when the only exposure you have to that person is on short interview clips. If you seriously think you can come to definitive conclusions about someone's intelligence with such limited exposure and no interaction with them whatsoever, then you have to be really shallow.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: hostileuniverse]
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That was also written by Ted Kennedy, a democrat and george Miller, another democrat. If yoUre gonna blame a program for creating stupid people, at least have the intellectual honesty to give credit where it belongs
can you have the 'intellectual honesty' to give credit where it's due, and say that Bush implemented the plan and was a republican?
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That was also written by Ted Kennedy, a democrat and george Miller, another democrat. If yoUre gonna blame a program for creating stupid people, at least have the intellectual honesty to give credit where it belongs
can you have the 'intellectual honesty' to give credit where it's due, and say that Bush implemented the plan and was a republican?
Of course, I never said it was written by only democrats, I said it was ALSO written by them
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That was also written by Ted Kennedy, a democrat and george Miller, another democrat. If yoUre gonna blame a program for creating stupid people, at least have the intellectual honesty to give credit where it belongs
can you have the 'intellectual honesty' to give credit where it's due, and say that Bush implemented the plan and was a republican?
Ben Carson did at least
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Of course, I never said it was written by only democrats, I said it was ALSO written by them
Learn to read
learn to make inferences.
if it was made by a democrat, and then instituted by a republican, what does it matter who made the plan in the first place? both implemented it.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: akira_akuma]
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It was a Shitty plan made by both parties
I was replying to some dumbfuck implying it was a "bush program"
What's the issue?
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: hostileuniverse]
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the issue is you think she mentioned it as "a Bush program". you're fuckin' seeing things, duder. but what's new.
she wasn't claiming it was cause it was "a Bush" plan it was shoddy...just that it was "Bush's plan". see the difference?
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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Is underfunding why so many are uneducated?
Certainly policies such as Bush's "No Child Left Behind," which cut funding from schools that didn't place high scores on standardized exams didn't help. There are schools out there using books that are outdated by 20 years, with underpaid staff that don't properly teach.
Tell me where it was assigned as anything but a "bush program"
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she doesn't say "it's a Bush program", nor does she state how that would be a problem, even if she did use those words...she also didn't state that the plan was bad because of Bush....talking to you reminds me of The Human Stain. people like you can drive a world mad. there isn't any getting through to people who are proud of their idiotic posturing.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: akira_akuma]
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You're really stretching, all I said was that it as much democrat as bush, then you got your panties all soaked and bunched
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i'm just pointing out your issues with informal logic. not getting my panties in a twist.
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Are their votes worth less?
Often they're poor and uneducated due to poor decision making, and now they're doing it again with their vote.
I'm not disagreeing, but look at all of the black votes for Democratic candidates who will.supposedly "make it better", and then look at what we have in inner cities. Ie Detroit, which votes over 70% democrat, hoping for change. It hasn't changed their lives. Democrats rely on tricking the poor and the ignorant into believing that their lives will get better, if only they vote Democrat one more time. This will be the time that they get the ultimate handout! Nah
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I was even thinking of donating but figured fuck this shit, I'm so glad I didn't, all these people care about is money..
Yeah, I got the emails too. Very disappointing. I definitely had high expectation for him, but he's nothing like his father.
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Eminence said: Apparently he can't even name any world leaders. Also, what was up with this whole thing?
That was in the context of a joke...was that really an issue at all? The worst that you can say about it is that it was kind of weird. He clearly did not do it in a pervy way.
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Patlal said: Just about anybody looks like an awesome person next to Trump and Hillary
If only Rand Paul had ran Libertarian, instead of Republican. He was the best candidate, but he got lost in the sauce during that whole circus that has been the Trump campaign. Of course mainstream media forced him out by not including him in debates even when he met the criteria.
I feel the same only I wish Bernie ran with the Greens instead of Democrat. I heard that they courted him but he turned it down so they went with Stein again.
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lol. He was classified as mentally disabled when he was 11, long before his sporting career. Of course, the fact that he took numerous blows to the head didn't help matters and probably worsened things.
I also don't think you know what analyzing somebody means means. You analyze somebody's behaviors and mannerisms when you watch them in an interview and come to an assessment about the type of person that they are. You analyze every person that you meet on a daily basis. "Gut feeling" is when you feel something mysterious and don't know why, there is no rhyme or reason for it.
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While I didn't like GWB as a person or a candidate, people often call him a moron just because of his Texan accent and their ignorant stereotypes about Southerners, or because they don't agree with his political views. Having a Southern accent because you were born and raised in the South does not make you a moron. Having bad grammar here and there does not make you a moron. I have never talked to someone extensively who didn't split an infinitive or make some other common grammatical error that many of us don't even realize are errors.
It's not his accent. GW Bush Sr. is much more intelligent than his son GW Bush Jr., and it conveys through the way he speaks.
Note that I stated in my post that Chris Rock is a fairly intelligent person, much more intelligent than Mike Tyson, even though Chris Rock speaks some ebonics. This therefore has nothing to do with the type of slang or accent that somebody speaks.
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Pointing out that Mike Tyson did in fact have a low IQ still does nothing to support your idea that Gary Johnson is a moron. People can sometimes be smarter than they appear at first, especially when the only exposure you have to that person is on short interview clips. If you seriously think you can come to definitive conclusions about someone's intelligence with such limited exposure and no interaction with them whatsoever, then you have to be really shallow.
The fact that you defend Mike Tyson's intelligence does very little to reassure me that you are even aware of how to properly identify intelligence (or lack thereof), even when the evidence is right in front of your face.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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The fact that you defend Mike Tyson's intelligence does very little to reassure me that you are even aware of how to properly identify intelligence (or lack thereof), even when the evidence is right in front of your face.
The fact that you think that I was still defending Tyson's intelligence suggests a reading comprehension deficit.
You have still labelled GWB Jr. and Gary Johnson as morons without providing reasons other than "they talk dumb." Without elaboration, this comes off as very subjective. Two people could analyze the same person, with one thinking they are smart and the other thinking they're dumb. People are very biased in their judgments of other people. I have family members and friends who think that certain candidates are dumb mainly because they disagree with their political positions. This is not an objective "analysis", and to liken your subjective assessment of someone to an objective analysis suggests an ability to see other points of view or realize the subjective nature of your own perspective.
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You really can't tell a lot about a person by simply observing them?
Like to me, it's really obvious that Kanye West is bipolar. Or that Britney Spears was having drug problems (specifically with amphetamines or uppers) when she was having her meltdown. You can tell these things about somebody by observing them.
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Crystal G said: You really can't tell a lot about a person by simply observing them?
Like to me, it's really obvious that Kanye West is bipolar. Or that Britney Spears was having drug problems (specifically with amphetamines or uppers) when she was having her meltdown. You can tell these things about somebody by observing them.
What drugs is the Hildabeast on?
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Like to me, it's really obvious that Kanye West is bipolar. Or that Britney Spears was having drug problems (specifically with amphetamines or uppers) when she was having her meltdown. You can tell these things about somebody by observing them.
What drugs is the Hildabeast on?
Prozac and menopause
Just like Trump
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Like to me, it's really obvious that Kanye West is bipolar. Or that Britney Spears was having drug problems (specifically with amphetamines or uppers) when she was having her meltdown. You can tell these things about somebody by observing them.
What drugs is the Hildabeast on?
Prozac and menopause
Just like Trump
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: moonrockmushy]
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If only Rand Paul had ran Libertarian, instead of Republican. He was the best candidate, but he got lost in the sauce during that whole circus that has been the Trump campaign. Of course mainstream media forced him out by not including him in debates even when he met the criteria.
I feel the same only I wish Bernie ran with the Greens instead of Democrat. I heard that they courted him but he turned it down so they went with Stein again.
Bernie wouldnt have accomplished shit running as a Green.
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People need to get over Bernie. He lost. That happens to almost everyone who runs for president.
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The green party has done diddly squat for America, they're losers.
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Bernie has accomplished more by running and losing in the democratic party than he has in the rest of his life. He has dramatically changed the democratic party platform, Hillary's positions, and the democratic party electorate.
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koods said: People need to get over Bernie. He lost. That happens to almost everyone who runs for president.
Dude was a quack anyways. He did motivate the people though. Same goes for Trump, yeah, he's a moron, but the support for both candidates represents a rebellion against the status quo.
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Bernie's gonna be more relevant on January 20th than all the other losers combined.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
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Bernie has accomplished more by running and losing in the democratic party than he has in the rest of his life. He has dramatically changed the democratic party platform, Hillary's positions, and the democratic party electorate.
Hahahaha. There's no way you actually believe that. It's just so delusional. He may have changed the party electorate but the platform and Hillary's positions didn't budge any. Leaked emails even showed that the platform was purposely written to make it seem like they were conceding some things to Bernie but in reality the changes would be insignificant.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
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Maybe so, but they still are better than the alternatives.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: moonrockmushy]
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Bernice actully did quite a lot, he convinced a lot of people who oppose everything the establishment stands for to vote for the Washington establishment.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
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Yeah honestly, I'm registered green but it's such a fringe party now that green party candidates like Stein have to hem and haw about dumb shit like vaccines and chemtrails to appease the green party voters. Nobody would have taken Bernie seriously if he was green.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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Wetworks and spirit cooking woke up a ton of braindead skinwalkers and will continue if there are any left with a shred of a soul
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Repertoire89]
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hostileuniverse said: Ron Paul actully did quite a lot, he convinced a lot of people who oppose everything the establishment stands for to vote for the Washington establishment.
***All the Trump burnouts were thouroughly trumped, showing their ignorance and naïveté en mass
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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Yeah honestly, I'm registered green but it's such a fringe party now that green party candidates like Stein have to hem and haw about dumb shit like vaccines and chemtrails to appease the green party voters. Nobody would have taken Bernie seriously if he was green.
Did anyone take him seriously running as a democrat?
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said: Ron Paul actully did quite a lot, he convinced a lot of people who oppose everything the establishment stands for to vote for the Washington establishment.
***All the Trump burnouts were thouroughly trumped, showing their ignorance and naïveté en mass
I would expect no less from a Hildabeast shill
yeah, he's sated people's dumb feeble minded and cursory curious qualms with themselves many times over already, about the fact that he isn't a supporter of Hillary....do you even know wtf a shill is?
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hostileuniverse said: Bernice actully did quite a lot, he convinced a lot of people who oppose everything the establishment stands for to vote for the Washington establishment.
***All the Bernice bernouts were thouroughly duped, showing their ignorance and naïveté en mass
did your favorite bunker radio station send you the latest word of the day calendar today?
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: akira_akuma]
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....do you even know wtf a shill is?
Of course he does, he knows more about shilling than the rest of us combined
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Repertoire89]
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said: You really can't tell a lot about a person by simply observing them?
Like to me, it's really obvious that Kanye West is bipolar. Or that Britney Spears was having drug problems (specifically with amphetamines or uppers) when she was having her meltdown. You can tell these things about somebody by observing them.
For some people it's obvious sure. It's easy to tell when someone has hardcore drug problems by changes in their physical appearance. I think it would just be better if we agreed to disagree. I just don't get the impression from him that he is a moron. If you think that he is, then that is ok. It's possible that you are right but it doesn't matter that much to me anyways.
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hostileuniverse said: Bernice actully did quite a lot, he convinced a lot of people who oppose everything the establishment stands for to vote for the Washington establishment.
***All the Bernice bernouts were thouroughly duped, showing their ignorance and naïveté en mass
yup That shit was hysterical. Hey y'all, I know I've been tearing this bitch down for months, and telling you how she is not qualified to be president, but you need to vote for her! That's right, I'm backing her! Forget that whole nonsense about bringing down the establishment; I was just talking out of my ass.  What a quack.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: greencrush420]
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he's playing politics in a way that your mind cannot comprehend.
he's staying by her side so that his constituents (you know, his people) can be sure that they've got eyes on Clinton's movement.
he's still trying to play good guy, but you guys, like usual, love to punch down (as the saying goes, which, let's face it, it applies to Sanders...you people love to kick him while he's down, and all he ever did was try to do the right thing, getting the political game fair again [albeit with a financial plan that you fear so, hate him for it] and then get shafted by the people you claim to hate...but yet, you seem to love them for what they did to Sanders! ya bunch of hypocrites!)
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said: You really can't tell a lot about a person by simply observing them?
Like to me, it's really obvious that Kanye West is bipolar. Or that Britney Spears was having drug problems (specifically with amphetamines or uppers) when she was having her meltdown. You can tell these things about somebody by observing them.
I don't know if Kanye West is bipolar, but he will make you famous
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: akira_akuma]
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hostileuniverse said: Ron Paul actully did quite a lot, he convinced a lot of people who oppose everything the establishment stands for to vote for the Washington establishment.
***All the Trump burnouts were thouroughly trumped, showing their ignorance and naïveté en mass
I would expect no less from a Hildabeast shill
yeah, he's sated people's dumb feeble minded and cursory curious qualms with themselves many times over already, about the fact that he isn't a supporter of Hillary....do you even know wtf a shill is?
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hostileuniverse said: Bernice actully did quite a lot, he convinced a lot of people who oppose everything the establishment stands for to vote for the Washington establishment.
***All the Bernice bernouts were thouroughly duped, showing their ignorance and naïveté en mass
did your favorite bunker radio station send you the latest word of the day calendar today?
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: imachavel]
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Like to me, it's really obvious that Kanye West is bipolar. Or that Britney Spears was having drug problems (specifically with amphetamines or uppers) when she was having her meltdown. You can tell these things about somebody by observing them.
I don't know if Kanye West is bipolar, but he will make you famous
That dude is totally bipolar, he has so many manic episodes it's not even funny.
As for Trump, I peg him as borderline personality disorder with a whole lot of narcissistic personality disorder.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said: You really can't tell a lot about a person by simply observing them?
Like to me, it's really obvious that Kanye West is bipolar. Or that Britney Spears was having drug problems (specifically with amphetamines or uppers) when she was having her meltdown. You can tell these things about somebody by observing them.
I don't know if Kanye West is bipolar, but he will make you famous
That dude is totally bipolar, he has so many manic episodes it's not even funny.
As for Trump, I peg him as borderline personality disorder with a whole lot of narcissistic personality disorder.
It's virtually impossible to diagnose someone just by watching them on tv, but i know that won't stop A Hildabeast shill from doing it 
Bernice supports are so "dumb" (because I can't use the word naive, Amina said so) they think that the Hildabeast steamrolling over him means he can "keep her in check" when she's president
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: hostileuniverse]
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not "keep her in check". but keep eyes on her. it'd make sense, because of Sanders' past of civil disobedience he might angle on something and blow the whistle. but then again, it's totally possible that that's a ruse. she can be manipulative and possible she manipulated the fuck out of him, convinced him that she was "ok". sorta like koods.
you'd probably do the same thing, either or....but then again, no one will ever know how you act within the political sphere. it's funny to me, because if Russia isn't a threat, well, that fine, but what about Syria...what is actually the right thing to do?
it's pretty much up to your own personal sentiments on the concept of interventionism and on the subject of letting a region destabilize, in the wake of Russian interventionism. see -- two different interventions. some say, let Russia have it...but i wonder if this is the best idea...i mean, if Clinton can't be trust...Bush...on and on...well, why trust Putin?
i don't trust any of them, honesty...the only reason i would even side with the Trumpsters at all is because they are the most likely to hold him accountable, as his brain trust, or else all hell will break loose within America. hopefully which will coordinate people's efforts in less of a bottleneck within, well, your own country...and focus on the bigger picture, of at least making your country's inner conflicts settled, before someone sneaks in something deliberate your way...there is way to much to be confronted these days, especially on the US's end. i'd like to see it come to a head in a peaceful manner.
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hostileuniverse said: It's virtually impossible to diagnose someone just by watching them on tv, but i know that won't stop A Hildabeast shill from doing it 
Really? This coming from the people who diagnosed Clinton with alzheimers and dementia because of a facial twitch she had?
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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I think she had a bit more than just a facial twitch.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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Really? This coming from the people who diagnosed Clinton with alzheimers and dementia because of a facial twitch she had? 
Alzheimer's is a dementia. She was pretty sick for two weeks or so, but the flip side of that is when she noticeably got better all the conspiracy theories vanished.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: koods]
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I seriously don't know why people thought she was dying simply because she was coughing for 2 weeks. I honestly thought it was just a bad cold or flu. I mean what terminal illness makes you cough for weeks on end?!
Also I seriously worry about the medical knowledge of some Trump supporters. My friend was spreading around this meme on Facebook which was pointed to a bump under the back of Hillary's suit. Most normal people would assume it was her microphone or something, instead these people were insinuating that it was a "special machine that helps to prevent her from shitting her diapers."
Like bruh... what machine is THAT?!
Or like this shit, what the fuck is a "coughing prevention device?"
I seriously worry about the medical and scientific knowledge of Trump voters.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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I knew it wasn't anything deadly serious when Bill Clinton came Down with the same cough.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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It wasn't because she was coughing for a couple weeks, it was because she couldn't walk up stairs on her own, she would randomly just faint and fall over, had weird ticks and would laugh for inappropriate lengths of time at inappropriate moments, it's like she's had strokes recently or something.
Also what's up with the giant hole in the middle of her tongue? I'm just curious, I'm not trying to start some conspiracy theory out of that.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Eminence]
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Eminence said: It wasn't because she was coughing for a couple weeks, it was because she couldn't walk up stairs on her own, she would randomly just faint and fall over, had weird ticks and would laugh for inappropriate lengths of time at inappropriate moments, it's like she's had strokes recently or something.
Yeah. This was supposedly the "smoking gun" that conservatives produced, that was supposedly evidence of Clinton's "epileptic fits." LMFAO! 
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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Idk if I'd call that a seizure..but it certainly is weird. It looks like some kind of stress induced reaction, and I wouldn't doubt her brain damage from her fall played a part in that reaction.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Eminence]
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It's things like that that make me wish I voted for her.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Eminence]
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Eminence said: Idk if I'd call that a seizure..but it certainly is weird. It looks like some kind of stress induced reaction, and I wouldn't doubt her brain damage from her fall played a part in that reaction.
You're seriously joking, right?
Why is it that absolutely nobody who is interviewing her seems remotely the least bit concerned about this supposed "brain damage seizure" she's having? No, they're laughing, because she intended to make that movement.
Isn't it obvious she was clearly making an over-exaggerated movement to make people laugh because she was blindsided and surprised by the loud reporter with the tape recorder?
Also, brain damage from her fall? I wasn't aware that you could get brain damage without hitting your head.
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Re: Gary Johnson seems like an awesome person. [Re: Crystal G]
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She did...she fainted, hit her head and had a concussion in 2012, she even wore prescription glasses for a while that were prescribed for her brain damage that ended up ruining her eyesight..also, they laughed from being surprised and probably the awkwardness of it, look at their faces. The woman on the left had a "what the fuck??" face and asked "are you ok?" Also..why would she do that then randomly start talking about cold chais? It's stress induced..this is why people who've worked with her say she has raging child like tantrums and has even attacked her staff under stress. Which I think is hilarious considering how she's always going on about Trump's temperament.
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