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Sterilized hpoo 1
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Just playing around with this. Have these 6 quart trays. Filled to the top line with hpoo/verm for measurement.
 Then dumped in spawn bags and sterilized.
 In front of the flow hood, I dumped a quart of spawn in each bag. Two bags I only used a half quart of spawn in.
 Shook vigorously and then put in the 6 quart trays to colonize.
 And few days later they were 95% or more colonized, so I cut the plastic off the top and put in the automated room.

The idea here is to speed up the process. Typically one quart masters goes to one bag of spawn which goes to three of these 6 quart tubs. So, the spawn isn't getting stretched as far, but neither is the time. I'm using trays instead of top fruiting the bags because there is more surface area. I'll update when crops arise. Props to blindingleaf for consistently telling me to do this and to Juiceh for telling me his experiences with it.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23797190 - 11/03/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you can spawn sterile I think it would be better. Thermophile bacteria isn't a detriment but its definitely not symbiotic. So if you can eliminate all bacteria and spawn sterile the poo probably performs better if I had to make a guess
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Performs better you guess? That would be awesome. Excited to see.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23797289 - 11/03/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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azur said: The idea here is to speed up the process. Typically one quart masters goes to one bag of spawn which goes to three of these 6 quart tubs. So, the spawn isn't getting stretched as far, but neither is the time.

one more time for a slow spacey; you're saving time by not g2g'ing master jars into grain bags? or did I miss something?
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23797487 - 11/03/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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i like the tray idea dude!
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23818154 - 11/10/16 01:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I bet you are
gonna get
a

of shrooms
from this...

Nice idea and nice use of those tubs...
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: morty422]
#23818170 - 11/10/16 01:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good luck man
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Noticed a pin last night. Will update later today
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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If ever overlay in cubes exists, I think here it is 
 My timer fucked up and my humidifier was running non stop. The trays had a quarter inch of water on top of them...
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23818921 - 11/10/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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damn! it almost looks like myc that's dried up too much and then gotten watered again. dont know what you call it, but it simply wont pin. those pins seems tough, breaking through!
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Ikr. They are literally busting through. We'll just have to wait it out
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23819001 - 11/10/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I had cased grain in an sgfc do that and i scratched it with my finger .... it was a day later pins popped up and it was like 9 days before i did that with nothing on the second flush
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Pinset sucks. But crops look nice. Couldn't get the surface flat and I think that is a contributing factor. I'll try again in the near future a different way to get the surface smooth
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23825526 - 11/12/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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On small trays i could never et them flat either by hand maybe get a piece of something you could sterilize or atleast soak in iso to scrape the top smooth
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Damn guys!!!!! I had to go out of town and the crops got over matured. Let it be known that I prefer to harvest just before the veil breaks. But, when you're out of town, sometimes shit happens. Anyways,!!! I'm super impressed with this. Like, blown the fuck away. 4 trays. Each one had one quart of spawn. 11 fucking dehydrator trays full. From experience, you get about an ounce per tray. So that's 4 quarts of spawn to 11 ounces of mushrooms!!! I don't know the exact weight but I'll update you guys tomorrow. The two trays that had a half a quart of spawn are pinning now. Excited to see the results of those. So, while it lacked in a Pinset, it more than made up for in crop size and overall weight. I highly recommend trying this out for yourselves
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23834351 - 11/15/16 01:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'll try this soon.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23834353 - 11/15/16 01:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This Na Muang you tried this with? Pretty cool man, yields look great for the amount of prep involved. I'm gonna have to set up a tent soon and give this a go
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: liloldme]
#23834357 - 11/15/16 01:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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What was the ratio of hpoo/verm?
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: liloldme]
#23834363 - 11/15/16 02:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Na Muang, mang 
"What was the ratio of hpoo/verm?" 50/50. About maybe 2ish quarts to one quart of spawn.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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Nice work azur. I always like the results of sterilized substrate. Muda bottles were the same principle. Some killer BE, you must be over 250%.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur] 1
#23834599 - 11/15/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not sure how I missed this thread before.
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azur said: Props to blindingleaf for consistently telling me to do this and to Juiceh for telling me his experiences with it.

 
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azur said: 4 trays. Each one had one quart of spawn. 11 fucking dehydrator trays full. From experience, you get about an ounce per tray. So that's 4 quarts of spawn to 11 ounces of mushrooms!!!
 Pretty amazing how much you can pull out of 1qt of spawn isn't it?
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What filters are on these bags? Looks like 5 micron filters not .2 micron?
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: Juiceh]
#23834617 - 11/15/16 07:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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How can I do this with quart jars? I don't have any spawn bags.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23834625 - 11/15/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Holy fuck that is amazing! Can't wait to see what your weight ends up being
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Good shit man
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Awesome! Looks like a killer strain... I agree with you tho - harvesting after a fully mature set of caps is to be avoided but sometimes you just got to roll with their schedule and have your own.
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Beneficial bacteria is only so beneficial. Sterilization of poo if possible works better imagine that
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I remember you saying that earlier in this thread. So far, seems to be the case
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23837141 - 11/15/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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9.89 ounces.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23837147 - 11/15/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Goldurn good shit man
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Not too shabby from 4 quarts of spawn in one flush
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23837163 - 11/15/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Id say not haha
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23837165 - 11/15/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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4 quarts should average the average joe an ounce, ounce and a half, yeah? You almost tripled that.
Average joe you are not.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23837190 - 11/15/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Holy shit that is amazing BE And besides that, beautiful fucking fruits! I tip my hat to you dude.
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Just thought I'd update. 2nd flushes were nice. Not a great Pinset (just like the 1st flush) but crops were big, meaty, and beautiful. Trying this out on pe and ape soon. So far, for standard cubes this will be my way to go.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23858711 - 11/22/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm having a hard time interpreting what you're doing.
Basically you're just sterilizing the shit (ala pressure cooking it) instead of risky pasturizing it?
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Pasteurization is not risky
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23858723 - 11/22/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Without me having a proper thermometer for me to measure temps it is. I actually have a great candy thermometer, digital, just need to get a new watch battery for it.
Anyway, can I PC quart jars of shit, mix with spawn, same same?
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Meh. Without a flow hood I wouldn't. You can lc it though!
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23858755 - 11/22/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've seen people LC hpoo and wbs blend they PC'ed with great success. That would most certainly take out the need for a flowhood.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: liloldme]
#23858911 - 11/22/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm confused as to why I'd need a flowhood....
PC shit, mix with coir/verm, add my spawn.
What am I missing? Does the sterile shit contam when open air hits it or something?
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: cronicr]
#23859019 - 11/22/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ya i partially sterilize my sgit and got mold in 4 days
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: cronicr]
#23859021 - 11/22/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why? This doesn't make any sense to me. I guess I've never seen any info on "sterilizing" poo before. I'm not arguing or denying the fact of the matter, I'm simply trying to soak up every bit of information I can.
Had I not asked, I'd be trying this thinking it was no different than sterilizing my coir/verm and spawning open air etc.
Thanks for any more info.
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Coir does not germinate spores so it can be done in open air...manure is a mold magnet so we pasturize to use in open air so benificial bacteria can help us out.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: cronicr]
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... shit has waaayyy more nutes for everything to thrive in so if it gets sterilized all the good bacteria is killed off along with thd bad so its open season for mold and since mold spores colonize way faster then mycelium ... thats why a higher spawn ratio is beneficial
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>using spawn bags as the liner Fuckin' nifty
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Quote:
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... shit has waaayyy more nutes for everything to thrive in so if it gets sterilized all the good bacteria is killed off along with thd bad so its open season for mold and since mold spores colonize way faster then mycelium ... thats why a higher spawn ratio is beneficial
Actually coir has just as much nutriton as manure it just won't germinated spores
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: liloldme]
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liloldme said: I've seen people LC hpoo and wbs blend they PC'ed with great success. That would most certainly take out the need for a flowhood.
like a left over dinner, just throw in whatever you got laying around https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21168958/fpart/1
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I didnt know coir had as much as hpoo and that is why it could be sterile .. so what is it just because there is no bacteria on it to begin with or what?
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23860962 - 11/23/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So this could be done with a SAB and you could dump st8 into a mono tub right if you dont have a GH?
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: Edmunter]
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i reckon you mean FH but have you ever tried keeping air still while spawning?
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spacechildo said: i reckon you mean FH but have you ever tried keeping air still while spawning?
So you are saying dont bother in a SAB only use a Flow hood?
I ment green house.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: Edmunter]
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the fruiting chamber doesnt matter, the "keeping your shit sterile until colonized" part is what matters!
keeping air still in a still air box is pretty much impossible while spawning to bulk.
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spacechildo said: the fruiting chamber doesnt matter, the "keeping your shit sterile until colonized" part is what matters!
keeping air still in a still air box is pretty much impossible while spawning to bulk.
So what would you advise? Maybe use a LI and only open the bag a little? Or are the grains essential for results.
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liloldme said: I've seen people LC hpoo and wbs blend they PC'ed with great success. That would most certainly take out the need for a flowhood.
like a left over dinner, just throw in whatever you got laying around https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21168958/fpart/1
that if you dont have a FH or simply copy what az does here if you do have a FH
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Nice. I used to do pans this way.
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Just whipped up 13 bags. Each has 3 quarts of hpoo/verm Some have 2 quarts of spawn, and some have 1 quart. Not putting in trays this time. Will just fruit out of bag, as it's much easier to get the sub surface flat and will take up less space in the cropping room. Will post results in 2 weeks.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23925822 - 12/14/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You're standing the bags up though, not laying flat, right?
Should work well:

Definitely way easier to get the sub level. After the 1st flush the sub will shrink away from the bag a bit. If you go for a 2nd flush you will probably get some side pins. After 1 flush you can take the block out of the bag and dunk it and fruit it like a shiitake block tho.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: Juiceh]
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Yup yup. Just like that. Do you case your pe in bags?
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: Juiceh]
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That looks great Juiceh! I imagine for someone rocking a GH, bags like that eliminate a lot of clean up and spawning efforts.
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Pastywhyte said: That looks great Juiceh! I imagine for someone rocking a GH, bags like that eliminate a lot of clean up and spawning efforts.
That's what I just thought. Knocking up bags like these in two weeks.  My GH is full ATM.
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Yeah. A few days after full colonization I trim the bag just below the filter patch and apply 1/4"-1/2" casing and immediately put into fruiting. Pretty much the same way I do most edibles that like a casing.
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Pastywhyte said: That looks great Juiceh! I imagine for someone rocking a GH, bags like that eliminate a lot of clean up and spawning efforts.
Yup, no tubs to wash out. Just move on to the next bag. There's a bit of plastic waste and the cost of bags though. You only get one use out of them since they get cut. At ~$.60 a bag I don't really mind it too much though. They give me the ability to cram more sub into the same space and as a result out produce the other options. So, it works out. When I use bags for grain I typically keep the bags because when I open them I just make one clean cut completely across the top right under the seal using the cutter built into my impulse sealer. Those bags get reused for sometimes another sterilized grain run but usually for casing pasteurization. I'll keep pasteurizing in them until they get pinholes and start fucking up the moisture content during pasteurizing.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: Juiceh]
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You're paying too much for your bags. Order 1,000 at a time and you'll get em for $.38 each with shipping.
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Juiceh said: You're standing the bags up though, not laying flat, right?
Should work well:

Definitely way easier to get the sub level. After the 1st flush the sub will shrink away from the bag a bit. If you go for a 2nd flush you will probably get some side pins. After 1 flush you can take the block out of the bag and dunk it and fruit it like a shiitake block tho.
That is some sweet cultivation work right there Juiceh - nice work.

by the way... can you give some bag details? What size and what filter pore size? (please)
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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Nice shit
How much spawn per bag are you using Juiceh?
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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I need to get me some more bags. I been liking them for grain spawn but I might try a few this way as well.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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azur said: You're paying too much for your bags. Order 1,000 at a time and you'll get em for $.38 each with shipping.
Yeah I know. TBH I haven't paid for most of the bags I've used. I've been gifted quite a lot of bags over the years that I usually work off of. But I think I only got a couple dozen left. Next order will be at least 1000 from unicorn.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: Juiceh]
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Juiceh said: You're standing the bags up though, not laying flat, right?
Should work well:

Definitely way easier to get the sub level. After the 1st flush the sub will shrink away from the bag a bit. If you go for a 2nd flush you will probably get some side pins. After 1 flush you can take the block out of the bag and dunk it and fruit it like a shiitake block tho.
Why would you not remove the bag completely , it would give the cake a lot more surface area to pin in and isn't that what you want
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: 99.99]
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Surface area doesn't directly translate into yield. Water dynamics and genetics matter more.
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Again with this surface area shit.
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So then its basicly what he likes ore how does top fruiting help ??? The only time ive tryied it was on a bag of penis envy and it seemed to help
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: MudaFuka]
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MudaFuka said: Again with this surface area shit.
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Nice thread!
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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azur said: Just whipped up 13 bags. Each has 3 quarts of hpoo/verm Some have 2 quarts of spawn, and some have 1 quart. Not putting in trays this time. Will just fruit out of bag, as it's much easier to get the sub surface flat and will take up less space in the cropping room. Will post results in 2 weeks.
And few bags are pinning now. And by tomorrow this room's shelves will be full.

So what I'm doing now is putting 1 plate to 3 quart jars. Then 1 quart jar to 5 half gallon jars. Then one half gallon jar of spawn to 3 quarts of hpoo/verm. Will have weights soon.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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Gonna do this sounds good to keep scaling up
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Obviously you can stretch your spawn further, which ultimately means less work. But I don't mind working more for volume.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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What culture is the bag on the top shelf on the right? Is that APE?
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: Juiceh]
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Yup. Sure is. Gonna have to take it out of the damn bag. Good eye
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#23959260 - 12/26/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, its starting to look like APE did when I tried it this way. I tried it with the laid in a tub method a while back. It pinned everywhere but the casing all around in the bag and not just a few pins, like the entire block surface was covered. But they never got bigger than like 3/8 of an inch. That's the only culture I have had that issue with this way so far. They were a bit of a side project that wasn't too important at the time. I have not yet revisited it to retry.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: Juiceh]
#23964056 - 12/28/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ape coming through the casing. Sucks it Juiceh.
18 half gallon jars just g2g'd to become 18 bags in a few days.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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Hey azur are some of those lids unmodded?
Sexy APE
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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Pastywhyte said: Hey azur are some of those lids unmodded?
Sexy APE 
 Yes. They are. I ran out of filters and didn't feel like fucking with metal and tyvek. First time trying unmodified lids.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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It's easy af. Just remember to tighten them up before you shake em.
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I've seen ppl do coffee filters and a rubber band over a loose unmodded lid idk if thats still a thing or not these days
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: liloldme]
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Coffee filters' holes are too large to stop the contams
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Which is why the lid has no holes in it. The coffee filter is probably more of a dust cover in that instance. . .
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It's funny I get shit for leaving the tinfoil on my lids when unmodded lids are completely acceptable.
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Foil traps moisture on the top of the lid. It's really only a problem with PF tek becaus it can get the dry verm layer wet. Some people think it's a problem on grain jars too but I don't see how.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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azur said: Ape coming through the casing. Sucks it Juiceh.
18 half gallon jars just g2g'd to become 18 bags in a few days.

 Well maybe next time I'll try APE with a fresh culture rather than the tired out one that some douchebag gave me.

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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: Juiceh]
#23964820 - 12/29/16 07:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I took about a dozen clones from my first couple ms ape grows and slanted them without testing them. Still have a couple more to go. Only one so far got reslanted.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: Juiceh]
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azur said: Ape coming through the casing. Sucks it Juiceh.
18 half gallon jars just g2g'd to become 18 bags in a few days.

 Well maybe next time I'll try APE with a fresh culture rather than the tired out one that some douchebag gave me.
 
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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So i tried this, but just a little differnt 1 agar plate to 1cup wheat 1 cup water pc for two hours in bags then inoculate Week later grain was fully colonized Mix 2 quarts Cow shit 2 quarts vermiculite, 1 1/2 cups water pc for two hours, when cool mix in wheat spawn Ten days later cow shit was fully colonized , case with 50/50 coir, vermiculite Another ten days penis envy pins galore VERY LARGE FRUITS so heavy they woulnt stand
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: 99.99]
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I'm no expert but I'd say those are not PE fruits...
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They are ,look at all the bumps on the stipe underneath the cap
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: 99.99]
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99.99 said: So i tried this, but just a little differnt 1 agar plate to 1cup wheat 1 cup water pc for two hours in bags then inoculate Week later grain was fully colonized Mix 2 quarts Cow shit 2 quarts vermiculite, 1 1/2 cups water pc for two hours, when cool mix in wheat spawn Ten days later cow shit was fully colonized , case with 50/50 coir, vermiculite Another ten days penis envy pins galore VERY LARGE FRUITS so heavy they woulnt stand

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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: 99.99]
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99.99 said: They are ,look at all the bumps on the stipe underneath the cap
So are these PE?

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99.99 said: So i tried this, but just a little differnt 1 agar plate to 1cup wheat 1 cup water pc for two hours in bags then inoculate Week later grain was fully colonized Mix 2 quarts Cow shit 2 quarts vermiculite, 1 1/2 cups water pc for two hours, when cool mix in wheat spawn Ten days later cow shit was fully colonized , case with 50/50 coir, vermiculite Another ten days penis envy pins galore VERY LARGE FRUITS so heavy they woulnt stand

Those look like PE to me, bumpy stipes spores not ejecting, falling over.....
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Penis envy is the ONLY strain ive used in the last year, i've been working on isolateing differnt attributes of the strain
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Just got my first mature fruits of my second flush, oh my god their huge 64 grams for the large one 58 on the smaller one
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: 99.99]
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Very nice work man. That's how it's done!
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99.99 said: They are ,look at all the bumps on the stipe underneath the cap
My bad - I should have zoomed in and looked at the stipes - I just had a quick look on my phone that first time and the phenotype was a bit off
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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Nice mass! The right one looks thick as fuck!
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Thanks mang. A little blotch, but good yield me thinks.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
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Looks good have you tried out any of the ones i sent you yet?
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Just g2g'd some tonight.
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Id like to see how the one turns out i think it was #7? my #2 did good i actually think its an iso now i havent even been trying but its on grain ready to g2g ...
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The #7 was a 60 grammer i think i knlw one of my last 2 was either 7 or 8
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Can't believe I missed this thread. Great work man. Love the idea of sterilized everything.
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4th flush and their even biger,and oh my god are they potent Why do you think The stipes are so long

I only did one large grow bag to test this out, ill try some Hawaiian pans next
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99.99 said: 4th flush and their even biger,and oh my god are they potent Why do you think The stipes are so long

I only did one large grow bag to test this out, ill try some Hawaiian pans next
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From the fourth flush though, little late for cloning?
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99.99 said: 4th flush and their even biger,and oh my god are they potent Why do you think The stipes are so long

I only did one large grow bag to test this out, ill try some Hawaiian pans next
Clone that PE... those long stopes are unique.
If you look at the first flush their all very long, all my penis envy is a clone ive isolated
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filthyknees
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: 99.99]
#24044348 - 01/27/17 03:58 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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From a couple months ago doing shoeboxes and now trying bags what are your thoughts azur, sticking with bags?
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azur
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Total bags dude. Shoeboxes are cool for a pasteurized sub, but too much of a pita with the bags. Sterilizing poo is too easy. Add a half gallon of spawn. Boom. Love it.
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#24044615 - 01/27/17 05:03 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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You ever work with much cow manure? i love it!
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: cronicr]
#24044776 - 01/27/17 05:52 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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Not indoors. But I certainly do love it for outdoor grows!
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: cronicr]
#24044790 - 01/27/17 05:55 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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Lowes has this for 1.67 a bag, its great stuff Aged well and no smell
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Re: Sterilized hpoo [Re: azur]
#25895176 - 03/25/19 01:57 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for thread, I'm gonna try this.
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