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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: zZZz]
#23796215 - 11/02/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: zZZz]
#23796217 - 11/02/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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zZZz said: i know some of them already do, but im talking about like how it is on the outside. i know prisons are meant to be tough, but i think it would benefit everyone cuz it would make the prisoners less violent and well they're already away from their families and stuff and some would say that is punishment enough..
discuss..
Lol dude...some prisoners will kill people FOR weed. Everyone has a potential for violence, but some of those guys are in there because violence is just a part of who they are, smoking some weed doesn't help those kinds of people. I say let all the criminals who are in for victim-less crimes have access to it but they or their family pays for it.
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: Sanguin3]
#23796221 - 11/02/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sanguin3 said: I think everyone should have access to weed.
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: Lucis]
#23796232 - 11/02/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fennario said: You're right.
Some people might use pot to mellow their nerves before doing some thug stuff.
i mean i don't think it should be allowed in the yard or anywhere outside of private grounds, restrictions would def be required to prevent these kinds of things.. they already have access to hard drugs like meth or heroin, so i mean might as well get them mellow the right way.. i'll bet some peeps wouldn't even want weed..
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: zZZz]
#23796237 - 11/02/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm more against the idea of the establishment playing games with peoples lives than I am with a bunch of bored people smoking weed(because the bored people smoking pot don't cost you money!!!)
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: zZZz]
#23796241 - 11/02/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you think any of that would matter to the people making the decision? We're just barely getting the freedom to use weed at all. And don't go acting like weed is some harmless plant that does no bad while every other drug has it's downsides. Smoking anything is bad for you. Prisoners are not going to get vapes, they're lucky if they can buy some crappy overpriced clear plastic radio. So what's left? Edibles? Who's gonna make them? The prisoners? Yeah good luck with that, I can't see any problem at all there. Why don't you convince the prisons to hand out milk and cookies while you're at it .
That's all totally ignoring the fact that most people would view it as some kind of privilege or form of recreation and there aren't tons of people who have never been a prisoner themselves in favor of giving them another "luxury".
Assuming you get passed all that, guess what? A single high (or dose if you want to call it that) would cost you probably 20 or 30 dollars. There is no way in hell they're going to let someone drop off your "medicine" so it will have to all be done through official channels and they will price gouge the hell out of it because in the end prison isn't about punishment or correcting behavior, it's about making money for the people who run the prison. You think the average Joe is going to be able to afford that stuff? Or you think it's going to be the gangs that squeeze the average Joe of what little they have just so they don't get beat the fuck up or killed, that affords it?
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: Shroomslip]
#23796255 - 11/02/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I feel like they should do "treatments" where it's administered in an isolated area if prisoners are legitamtely helped by it. But as mentioned it's never going to happen.
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: Shroomslip]
#23796269 - 11/02/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said:
Assuming you get passed all that, guess what? A single high (or dose if you want to call it that) would cost you probably 20 or 30 dollars.
Nigga gon buy him a stick for $5, have that green dot on lock shawty.
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: zZZz]
#23796274 - 11/02/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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zZZz said:
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Fennario said: You're right.
Some people might use pot to mellow their nerves before doing some thug stuff.
i mean i don't think it should be allowed in the yard or anywhere outside of private grounds, restrictions would def be required to prevent these kinds of things.. they already have access to hard drugs like meth or heroin, so i mean might as well get them mellow the right way.. i'll bet some peeps wouldn't even want weed..
They would find ways to smuggle it out of a safe room. All you'd do is increase their illicit supply. And the people who "wouldn't be allowed" to have it surely would. As it stands right now for the most part there is not a whole whole lot of drugs in most US prisions. Yeah some gets in but you really think they'd be making white lightning if they could just smoke weed or shoot dope?
Zzzz I know where your coming with this and it's a nice sentiment but it would be very impractical.
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: Shroomslip]
#23796280 - 11/02/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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it would be a "luxury" worthwhile cuz it's not like a tv or a pair of brand new sneakers, weed is a medicine, a very powerful one at that, it has a lot of medicinal value, it'd be more than just another luxury.. see we aren't just trying to get peeps high, we're trying to get them to chill out a bit.. cuz lets face it toughing them up only makes them tougher and not necessarily in a good way..
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: zZZz]
#23796286 - 11/02/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have heard of atleast one South American prison providing ayahuasca to their prisoners with success. I suppose in that sense a little weed isn't too crazy.
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: zZZz]
#23796287 - 11/02/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why not just give them some heroin then if the idea is to just chill them out? Enough of the "it's a medicine" BS lol.
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23796288 - 11/02/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: Zzzz I know where your coming with this and it's a nice sentiment but it would be very impractical.
i don't know bro.. i think there might something there.. but i really like ur opinions on the matter, twas what i was hoping for when i made this thread..
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Eminence said: Why not just give them some heroin then if the idea is to just chill them out? Enough of the "it's a medicine" BS lol.
that's a whole different ball park, heroin is extremely addicting and doesn;t necessarily fix problems in the long run, it just completely masks them.. weed be making peeps think tho on the real..
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Seriously_trippin said: I feel like they should do "treatments" where it's administered in an isolated area if prisoners are legitamtely helped by it. But as mentioned it's never going to happen.
i think that would be the best approach..
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: zZZz]
#23796314 - 11/02/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldn't want to be high in prison, fuck that shit.
South American prisons ain't no joke, people dropping like flies in there, shits gnarly, truly disturbing.
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: Eminence] 1
#23796324 - 11/02/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Why not just give them some heroin then if the idea is to just chill them out? Enough of the "it's a medicine" BS lol.
Yeah guys heroin,meth and pot are all the same exact thing,the government even says so. Pot is highly addictive and kills people every day with no medicinal value . But alcohol isnt harmful at all as long as you're 21 
"Chilling people out" is extremely different from treating them with a medication that works for them. In Israel hospitals are equipped with smoking areas for medical marijuana.
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: zZZz]
#23796392 - 11/02/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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zZZz said:
tobacco is very bad for ur health tho, its medical properties are extremely limited, same with alcohol, weed cures all kinds of ailments and diseases, shit it cured my dog's parvo once.. cigs and alcohol can't do that..
Weed doesn't cure anything. There are lots of medicinal uses for alcohol. You people claim pot is a medical therapy for insomnia, okay then so is alcohol. You smoke a joint to go to sleep and i drink four beers, there is no difference whatsoever. Same argument can be made for depression or aches and pains too. People get med pot for these things because pot is not legal, it's not the recommended treatment though. When pot becomes legal in an area these med pot cards should be invalidated as they no longer serve any purpose. You are using pot like I use alcohol so you should pay full price. People got the idea that their medical exemption from a law meant they really need it, they are special, etc. This is why you see people medicating, and i use that term lightly, in public spaces with children around. I use beer the exact same way, medically, but I don't feel entitled to drink everywhere. The reason there is no license for medical beer is its already legal and if you want to use it for medical purposes you go the store buy some. Doctors are not condoning your pot use, just giving a card to avoid arrest for your off label use. I don't know why this message is not getting thru. Everyone with a med pot card sought it out, highly doubt a doctor recommended it. Medical pot users are some of the most entitled and misinformed people I ever met. I only support med pot as a first step to legalization, it's not legit though. I really get annoyed when people say pot is medicine and alcohol is not.
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: my3rdeye]
#23796408 - 11/03/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: zZZz]
#23796410 - 11/03/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So how would you think this would work anyway? To you, it's the violent ones that should be using it, but the violent ones should have less privileges than any of them, in my opinion anyway. Some people in prison have been in and out for a large portion of their lives, to the point where they even feel at home being there. So to those people it really is just a luxury. How would you choose who gets to use it and who doesn't? I just don't see any practical way of going about it really. I don't think weed cures anything either, as far as I know.
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Re: should prisoners have access to weed?.. [Re: my3rdeye]
#23796418 - 11/03/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're right. The only people I've ever talked to that legitimately used weed medicinally were old people with arthritis or some other kind of debilitating condition. The rest were just younger people taking advantage of a loophole (can't blame 'em ) but won't admit that they don't need it at all and really just wanna get high whenever they want.
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