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OfflineTNK
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Who should I vote for, and why?
    #23795782 - 11/02/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I got my ballot in the mail today; and I don't know who to vote for.

Clinton is a crook.
Trump is insane.
Third party is a wasted vote.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven and there are deplorables in baskets everywhere, I don't know what to do. So I am doing what every other undecided millennial voter is doing and letting the internet determine my vote.

I'm pretty anti-trump but still agree with a lot of what he says, regardless of the format he says it.

That being said I am fully aware Clinton is a lying sack of shit who is crooked as they get, but hey that's american politics.

Convince me shroomery, here stands before you an undecided voter- who is eager to hear what everyone has to say.
Who to vote for?
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from (11/02/16 08:27 PM) to (No end specified)
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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: TNK] * 2
    #23795793 - 11/02/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Write me in!, or in memory of ZIG write him in, I told him I would.

:sad:


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Ras Rising]
    #23795851 - 11/02/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I was a hardcore Bernie supporter turned reluctant Clinton supporter after exhaustive research of my third party options. Originally I was going with Gary Johnson with the long term hope that 5% of the popular vote for a third party would mean federal funding and more options for the future. Now, I don't know if I'm just swayed by the media or whatever, but seeing Trump as such a likely candidate is pressing me to vote for someone I absolutely would not under any other(forseeable) circumstances, which is Hillary Clinton. Especially considering I am in a swing(PA) state and a woman. Which, like it or not, is a very important demographic(http://abc27.com/2016/10/11/pennsylvanias-suburban-middle-aged-women-could-decide-election/)(granted, I am urban based and a young woman, and this article specifically points out my middle aged suburban counterparts, I'm not going to throw away my vote as a lady in a swing state). They've actually had skywriters and planes urging women to vote for Trump on the daily here.

My parents, who swing red because they are in the tax bracket that suffers the failures of our governments the most are both decidedly voting Clinton, albeit reluctantly like myself.



I can't tell you how to vote, all I know is that the Clinton administration will basically be an extension on the current. I am far more willing to vote for that(fuck I'd be far more willing to vote for 4 more years of Obama as would most people I know) than I am the trainwreck that is Trump. The guy will get impeached in under a year and we'll be left with a vice president who doesn't believe in evolution. Honestly I want to hear more of why I should vote for Trump, because ALL I've racked up as someone that is for 'none of the above' is that I absolutely want nothing to do with this man as president.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: TNK] * 6
    #23795857 - 11/02/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

BTW because its relevant: :presidential:.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: TNK] * 1
    #23795864 - 11/02/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Vote for a meteor strike


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Ras Rising] * 2
    #23795868 - 11/02/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I would also like to take this moment to recommend the HBO show 'VEEP' to each and every one of you. Truly a gem that is probably the most accurate depiction of US politics on the air currently depending on your mood(in which case House of Cards might be the go to if it's less satirical)


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: TNK]
    #23795878 - 11/02/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

TheNatureKid said:
I'm pretty anti-trump but still agree with a lot of what he says, regardless of the format he says it.   




You minus just vote for trump


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Hobozen]
    #23795880 - 11/02/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

LOL WHO VOTED FOR CLINTON YOU SHOULD TELL YTHAN to BAN YOUR ACCOUNT FOREVER.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: JustForToday]
    #23795884 - 11/02/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Faggots everywhere. Thems been eating too many shrooms ya herd.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Hobozen] * 4
    #23795891 - 11/02/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I voted for Johnson. I know he won't win, I'm just hoping he gets more than 5% and things start to change eventually. My vote isn't a waste because I voted 3rd party. It is a vote for the future.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #23795899 - 11/02/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Lophosaurus said:
I voted for Johnson. I know he won't win, I'm just hoping he gets more than 5% and things start to change eventually. My vote isn't a waste because I voted 3rd party. It is a vote for the future.




You're an embarrassment



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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Ras Rising]
    #23795902 - 11/02/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Ras Rising said:
BTW because its relevant: :presidential:.




If u want to get sucked off, vote for Hillary :lol:


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Hobozen]
    #23795903 - 11/02/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Hobozen]
    #23795907 - 11/02/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Either one is going to be impeached so vote for whichever potential vice president you prefer.

Personally i'm a monarchist so i'm not going to vote for a lame ass president.  Never have and i doubt that i ever will.  If i was forced to vote for Clinton or Trump, i would vote for Trump.  I just would'nt tell my illegal friends :tongue:.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23795913 - 11/02/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's already happening. Look around you.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23795918 - 11/02/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Your avatar :lolsy:


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: lavod] * 1
    #23795920 - 11/02/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

my pal Trump,
he is nice
and he don't like spice
it hurts his rump

my pal Trump
love's America
he creates the jobs
that work it out

my best friend
Trump's the man
he is so neat
while he fucks my sweet

pal, what's up?
what you got to say?
'I'm gonna make
this country great again!'

my pal Trump
he's the dude
he'll abide
and he'll make you too!

Trump's the man!



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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Hobozen]
    #23795926 - 11/02/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Hobozen said:
It's already happening. Look around you.



tell me you watched the news to the end! :eek:


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23795929 - 11/02/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23795935 - 11/02/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

akira_akuma said:
Quote:

Hobozen said:
It's already happening. Look around you.



tell me you watched the news to the end! :eek:




I did just now


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: TNK] * 4
    #23795937 - 11/02/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Hobozen]
    #23795938 - 11/02/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Kilalry will irradiate us all if you vote for her, Nature.



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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #23795939 - 11/02/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Trump is bad with choosing his words at times, but at least he's not encouraging people to incite violence at Hillary's events, or wanting to go to war with Russia because "they stole those hacked emails!" or..well I've done this before, there's too much dirt on her that I don't even have the patience to bring it all up anymore.

At least with Trump it could be a fresh start, some of you guys are assuming Trump will be awful because some shit he has said but fail to pay attention to what Hillary has actually done. It's really weird, honestly.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Eminence] * 1
    #23795943 - 11/02/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Probably 1 in 1000 comments about this years election are related to policy


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: akira_akuma] * 2
    #23795947 - 11/02/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

She's old and sociopathic, lacks empathy and donte give no fucks about russia or nuclear warfare. Vote Trump.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Ras Rising]
    #23795961 - 11/02/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Ras Rising said:
BTW because its relevant: :presidential:.




its very relevant to how i feel about hillary


she can eat a fuckin dick


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Hobozen] * 1
    #23795974 - 11/02/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Hobozen said:
She's old and sociopathic, lacks empathy and donte give no fucks about russia or nuclear warfare. Vote Trump.





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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23795976 - 11/02/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:aghast:


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Ras Rising]
    #23795990 - 11/02/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23796015 - 11/02/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

First election I get to vote in and its already my last.... :feelsoldman:


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Ras Rising]
    #23796034 - 11/02/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Ras Rising said:
:aghast:




Ha. This reminds me of the face Bill was making when Trump mentioned his rape cases. He was so shook :lol:


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: TNK]
    #23796061 - 11/02/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

pfft i want a women president, i'm tired of the same old bs, we got a black president already and that was interesting, now we need a women president, next will be a mexican president, and after that it well who knows probably me.. i'll legalize shrooms


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: TNK]
    #23796077 - 11/02/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The person who you personally think will be the best for the job regardless of any other factors.

Don't just let others tell you how to vote. Vote for the person who you honestly think is the best. That's the only way that elections work.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: zZZz]
    #23796086 - 11/02/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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pfft i want a women president






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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Ras Rising]
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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: TNK] * 1
    #23796122 - 11/02/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think you should vote for Hillary because Trumps policies and plans to "Make America Great Again" are poorly thought out and would not do well in the real world.

On paper, they sound somewhat LogicaL, but in reality, they are too simplistic.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23796407 - 11/03/16 12:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If Hillary is more of the same shit, at least we know we won't cause WW3 :shrug: Vote for who you think should be the face and mouth of America. It's a figurehead diplomatic position ,which do you think would fit that bill?


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #23796426 - 11/03/16 12:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That's the problem though, Hillary is pretty decent at making people believe she really isn't a nasty witch, so some people think she'd be a better representation of America. But if you're worried about WW3, then she would be the one to make it happen, not Trump.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: TNK]
    #23796444 - 11/03/16 12:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Trump = White House
Hillary = Prison

Simple as that


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Great Scott] * 1
    #23796454 - 11/03/16 12:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The way I look at it is one person is evil and admits it and the other is evil but will not show it to our allies or enemies. If you think Trump has any qualms about starting wars I think that's naïve.  He literally said "I will be more willing to use nuclear retaliation in the middle east than any other president in US history" " I want them to think we may use nukes". Bombs start wars but Nukes are the only things that can cause world war and mutually assured destruction . You're entitled to your opinion though
Quote:

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Trump = White House
Hillary = Prison

Simple as that



As always very compelling argument


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23796460 - 11/03/16 12:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's not an argument. I'm just putting the pegs in their respective holes.


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    #23796467 - 11/03/16 12:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I got a stiff peg and I feel like I could bury it deep inside Hillary's old-yet-surgically-reconstructed vagina with her pubes curled into a handlebar moustache.  I'd shoot ropes like spider man.


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    #23796478 - 11/03/16 12:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I just came my fucking pants.  fuckkkkkk


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    #23796483 - 11/03/16 12:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Not my problem.


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    #23796486 - 11/03/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's been a major problem, anything sex related and I cum my pants so I'm still a virgin at 32 almost 33 years old.  I stopped being depressed about it years ago and now I just enjoy orgasms at strip clubs all the time.


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    #23796489 - 11/03/16 12:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't say it ain't a major problem, just that it's not my major problem.

Trump 2016, you filthy degenerate.


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    #23796602 - 11/03/16 02:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The way I look at it is one person is evil and admits it and the other is evil but will not show it to our allies or enemies. If you think Trump has any qualms about starting wars I think that's naïve.  He literally said "I will be more willing to use nuclear retaliation in the middle east than any other president in US history" " I want them to think we may use nukes". Bombs start wars but Nukes are the only things that can cause world war and mutually assured destruction . You're entitled to your opinion though




Funny, the only time nukes have ever been used was to end a war,  not start one

Some would even argue the threat of nuclear war kept us from going to war with Russia for 40 some odd years


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23796605 - 11/03/16 02:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

To the OP, vote for potato, Hillary is a scandalous bitch and Trump likes pussy, :shrug:


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Eminence]
    #23796609 - 11/03/16 03:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I would argue Trump is more for a WW3 than Hillary. He seems like the hardcore type that makes moves first than asks questions later.


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The way I look at it is one person is evil and admits it and the other is evil but will not show it to our allies or enemies. If you think Trump has any qualms about starting wars I think that's naïve.  He literally said "I will be more willing to use nuclear retaliation in the middle east than any other president in US history" " I want them to think we may use nukes". Bombs start wars but Nukes are the only things that can cause world war and mutually assured destruction . You're entitled to your opinion though




Funny, the only time nukes have ever been used was to end a war,  not start one

Some would even argue the threat of nuclear war kept us from going to war with Russia for 40 some odd years



It actually did create the Cold War(no nukes no Cold War) but while it's true the arms race during the Cold War was to prevent either side from using nuclear power,it's not quite the same anymore. Russia doesn't have fleets of nuclear subs with ICBMs anymore. Since the dissolving of the USSR after the fall of the Berlin Wall ,Russia was in a freefall and sold whatever nukes or really any expensive weapons and defenses to whoever they could. And that theory is solid as long as both sides have roughly the same amount of nukes for mutually assured destruction. I'd argue that Russia is still hanging by a proverbial string trying to maintain power in Europe and loosing control fast. And teaming up with Putin doesn't seem like a good idea right now or really ever. Work with them yes,team up with them no.That sounds like a true invasion that'd make president bush look like a pussy.

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    #23797215 - 11/03/16 11:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Trump is going on trial for racketeering and fraud on November 20th, and his next court date for child rape is in December.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: koods]
    #23797230 - 11/03/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm undecided now waiting to hear an update from FBI, DOJ on Clinton's investigation. Because I know whatever Comey says, that there will be some early voters who wish to change their vote which is not possible here. I will not be like them... It is crazy to me to vote for Clinton before we know if she'll face indictment, impeachment proceedings. But most Clinton supporters IME have tuned out already, are not even following the news and thus would scoff at the idea of it.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: koods]
    #23797246 - 11/03/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Notice how the rape allegations with him didn't start appearing until after he started gaining so much support and after he mentioned the Clintons' involvement in the same sort of cases? Such convenient timing, am I right?


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23797284 - 11/03/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I think you should vote for Hillary because Trumps policies and plans to "Make America Great Again" are poorly thought out and would not do well in the real world.

On paper, they sound somewhat LogicaL, but in reality, they are too simplistic.




Yeah, bringing jobs back to the US is "poorly thought out".  What was Obama's plan for that issue?  NONE.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: koods]
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Trump is going on trial for racketeering and fraud on November 20th, and his next court date for child rape is in December.




These are civil lawsuits, not criminal charges, both of which have been thrown out of court previously
for being frivolous.

If trump is such a criminal, why isn't the FBI investigating him like they are with Hillary?


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Trump is going on trial for racketeering and fraud on November 20th, and his next court date for child rape is in December.




These are civil lawsuits, not criminal charges, both of which have been thrown out of court previously
for being frivolous.

If trump is such a criminal, why isn't the FBI investigating him like they are with Hillary?




Do you know how many fines trump has paid to the IRS? Dozens. Trump was even fined during this campaign by the FEC for violating campaign finance laws. The guy spends half his time in court. He's a legal disaster.

Keep ignoring the fact that he's going on trial for FRAUD! It was not thrown out. The trial begins in three weeks.

The child rape case has not been thrown out. It went before a judge last week and trumps lawyers were ordered to prepare for depositions.


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koods said:
Trump is going on trial for racketeering and fraud on November 20th, and his next court date for child rape is in December.




These are civil lawsuits, not criminal charges, both of which have been thrown out of court previously
for being frivolous.

If trump is such a criminal, why isn't the FBI investigating him like they are with Hillary?




Do you know how many fines trump has paid to the IRS? Dozens. Trump was even fined during this campaign by the FEC for violating campaign finance laws. The guy spends half his time in court. He's a legal disaster.

Keep ignoring the fact that he's going on trial for FRAUD!




No, he's going to court because of civil lawsuits.

You do realize any person can sue another person without merit?

Is he facing criminal charges for FRAUD?


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    #23797394 - 11/03/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's too late to register and doesn't really matter.

Trump if you think the US should actually have a Southern border.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: qman]
    #23797395 - 11/03/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's a class action lawsuit with a thousand or more plaintiffs suing him for defrauding them. Your defense is he's a great guy because it's not a criminal case? He's a fucking scum ball that ripped off thousands of people.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: TNK]
    #23797399 - 11/03/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I thought about such a troll myself. Pretty effective to get people worked up at the last minute. Well done on your stick-with-it-ness. I only dreamed...


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Eminence]
    #23797430 - 11/03/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Notice how the rape allegations with him didn't start appearing until after he started gaining so much support and after he mentioned the Clintons' involvement in the same sort of cases? Such convenient timing, am I right?




Gee I wonder why people only started paying attention to the numerous rape allegations he's had over the decades once he stared running for president. I wonder why. Maybe because he's running for president.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: TNK]
    #23797439 - 11/03/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Of course, once you get the ball rolling...


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    #23797450 - 11/03/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That ball has been rolling for decades. The first time he was sued for sexual assault was in the 70s


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: koods]
    #23797470 - 11/03/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You should probably vote Trump. I would vote for Stein or Johnson though. Both Clinton and Trump are the worst.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: koods] * 1
    #23797538 - 11/03/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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That ball has been rolling for decades. The first time he was sued for sexual assault was in the 70s




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    #23797594 - 11/03/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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That ball has been rolling for decades. The first time he was sued for sexual assault was in the 70s



The little lying whore literally canceled the press conferenc yesterday. If you can't see that the allegations are fake, you're an idiot.

I was over my friends apartment last night.  I was the only trump supporter there. A few poli-sci majors who claimed they were registered republicans and voting for Hillary were there. Then there were four or five people who had no clue who to vote for. By the end of the night, I had convinced two of the undecideds to vote for trump, one of them and one of the Hillary supporters to vote for Stein and the other undecided and other Hillary supporter to vote for Johnson. There was one staunch Hillary supporter who kept crying, "BUT HES A CHILD RAPIST." Yeah, that guy lost a lot of credibility in the eyes of all of his friends. He was a friend of a friend, so I didn't personally want to call him an idiot but his friends eventually started saying, "bro, there's literally not enough money you could pay me in the world to believe that donald trump raped a child, or anyone for that matter, you're so gullible."

So basically I uncucked the dudes friends and made everyone think he was an dumbass. Times are a changin folks.


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You're so cool Webster :tard:


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23797647 - 11/03/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What a substantial response. I can't respond to that, you've stumped me!


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Webster10]
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Well now you know how it feels , you've been doing almost the same thing for about 5 to 7 months.


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That ball has been rolling for decades. The first time he was sued for sexual assault was in the 70s




What was the verdict?



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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: koods]
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Vote for Hillary
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Quite a few of her policies, they're populist adaptations and reflect the desires of her constituents.

Raising minimum wage, supporting abortion rights, background checks for firearm purchasing, reforming ACA, etc.


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:whathesaid:

Dude bang that girl again tonight Webster that was mint :rolleyes:


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Quite a few of her policies, they're populist adaptations and reflect the desires of her constituents.



Her "constituents" are the reason we can't have a pure democracy. These libtards would hand the keys to the plutocrats and destroy this country very quickly if they had their way. Thank God for the our Republic.
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Raising minimum wage



ie: raising unemployment levels and driving small businesses out of business.
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supporting abortion rights



ie: legalized and state-funded infanticide (mass baby murder)
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background checks for firearm purchasing



ie: further violations of the 2nd ammendment while calling it "common sense legislation".
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reforming ACA,



ie: initiate the finishing touches on what Obamacare was designed to do, which is fail and become a single payer socialist nightmare, and an end to competitive market forces in favor of total government control.
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    #23797963 - 11/03/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

i'd suggest you don't vote if you're so politically ill-informed that you need the help of the Pub to make up your mind

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You treat civics like an opposition between sports teams, but its not a game. I can't take people seriously when they throw around terms like "libtards" and just parrot the lines their party wrote.

Min wage increases would not increase unemployment, this has been demonstrated practically on the state level, and historically on a national level when minimum wage was introduced (as the Great Depression came to an end).

You're free to your weird religious interpretation of abortion, keep your nose out of other people's business :wink:

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    #23798020 - 11/03/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Religious interpretation of abortion? I learned in science class about reproduction, not in church.

Why does the left assign religious zealotry to any one who disagrees with them?


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Religious interpretation of abortion? I learned in science class about reproduction, not in church.

Why does the left assign religious zealotry to any one who disagrees with them?




:lol: PeyoteZen talks about his jesus thing all the time.

More partisan bullshit "the evil left" grow up.


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    #23798046 - 11/03/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I know, it's truly weird. I'm advocating for what should be objectively moral to anyone regardless of religious affiliations. Murdering babies is wrong and all anyone can do is justify why they think it's okay to engage in such immorality and list the reasons for making an exception to morality...since the argument against it's inherent immorality is non-existent.

Also it's funny to note that libtards are perfectly fine with Muslims expressing their "religious interpretations", which include but are not limited to, beheading disobedient wives and throwing gays off rooftops.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23798047 - 11/03/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Religious interpretation of abortion? I learned in science class about reproduction, not in church.

Why does the left assign religious zealotry to any one who disagrees with them?





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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23798054 - 11/03/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You treat civics like an opposition between sports teams, but its not a game. I can't take people seriously when they throw around terms like "libtards" and just parrot the lines their party wrote.

Min wage increases would not increase unemployment, this has been demonstrated practically on the state level, and historically on a national level when minimum wage was introduced (as the Great Depression came to an end).

You're free to your weird religious interpretation of abortion, keep your nose out of other people's business :wink:

The ACA needs to be reformed, its shite as is. A perfect example of what happens when a country is split up by partisan immaturity, since there's no agreement on how to run things we'll just keep a system no one likes.





"Min wage increases would not increase unemployment"

You don't know that, it depends on how much higher you hike it.


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    #23798056 - 11/03/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I know, it's truly weird. I'm advocating for what should be objectively moral to anyone regardless of religious affiliations. Murdering babies is wrong and all anyone can do is justify why they think it's okay to do engage in such immorality, since the argument for against it's inherent immorality is non-existent.

Also it's funny to note that libtards are perfectly fine with Muslims expressing their "religious interpretations", which include but are not limited to, beheading disobedient wives and throwing gays off rooftops.




Objectively moral? Your morals have been corrupted by your religion. And Muslims are just as abhorrent as Christians when they impose their magical thinking upon a secular society like you want to do.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: koods]
    #23798061 - 11/03/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:Your morals have been corrupted by your religion. And Muslims are just as abhorrent as Christians when they impose their magical thinking upon a secular society like you want to do.




My morals have been corrupted by my religion? Hahahahaha, okay sure thing, baby killer.

Discouraging women from murdering their babies is not even close the kind of imposition that Shariah Law seeks to impose upon society. You're delusional.


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    #23798068 - 11/03/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You treat civics like an opposition between sports teams, but its not a game. I can't take people seriously when they throw around terms like "libtards" and just parrot the lines their party wrote.

Min wage increases would not increase unemployment, this has been demonstrated practically on the state level, and historically on a national level when minimum wage was introduced (as the Great Depression came to an end).

You're free to your weird religious interpretation of abortion, keep your nose out of other people's business :wink:

The ACA needs to be reformed, its shite as is. A perfect example of what happens when a country is split up by partisan immaturity, since there's no agreement on how to run things we'll just keep a system no one likes.





"Min wage increases would not increase unemployment"

You don't know that, it depends on how much higher you hike it.





My county has raised the minimum wage to $10.75 and the unemployment rate is 3.3%. We should raise it higher since 3.3% actually represents a labor shortage.

Fairfax county, which borders my county has a minimum wage of 7.25 and it's unemployment rate is 3.6.


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    #23798076 - 11/03/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:Your morals have been corrupted by your religion. And Muslims are just as abhorrent as Christians when they impose their magical thinking upon a secular society like you want to do.




My morals have been corrupted by my religion? Hahahahaha, okay sure thing, baby killer.

Discouraging women from murdering their babies is not even close the kind of imposition that Shariah Law seeks to impose upon society. You're delusional.




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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23798085 - 11/03/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Is it possible for you to discuss anything without using ad hominem attacks?




Sure. I can do that if you think it will help...

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My morals have been corrupted by my religion?

Discouraging women from murdering their babies is not even close the kind of imposition that Shariah Law seeks to impose upon society. That would be a delusional thing to think.




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    #23798088 - 11/03/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:Your morals have been corrupted by your religion. And Muslims are just as abhorrent as Christians when they impose their magical thinking upon a secular society like you want to do.




My morals have been corrupted by my religion? Hahahahaha, okay sure thing, baby killer.

Discouraging women from murdering their babies is not even close the kind of imposition that Shariah Law seeks to impose upon society. You're delusional.




I dont want to live under Muslim sharia law or Christian sharia law.


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    #23798093 - 11/03/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Also it's funny to note that libtards are perfectly fine with Muslims expressing their "religious interpretations", which include but are not limited to, beheading disobedient wives and throwing gays off rooftops.




Utter nonsense.



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"Min wage increases would not increase unemployment"

You don't know that, it depends on how much higher you hike it.




Well the details can be panned out, Trump suggested $10, Hillary $12, then there's the $15 camp.
Either $10-12 would be reasonable, I think it would be reasonable to raise it to $11 and see what happens.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: koods]
    #23798124 - 11/03/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

There's no such thing as "Christian Sharia". You're just sensationalizing Christian ethics to fit your lib-brained narrative.

Which would you rather live under if you had to choose? A Free Republic that won't let you kill babies and holds the opinion that sodomy is gross, but otherwise affords you a free existence? Or an oppressive Islamic Regime that will literally kill you for being gay, and has laws that afford murderers the state-sanctioned permission to do it?

It's not even close. You'd have to be a brainwashed libtard to think these two modes of existence are one in the same.


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    #23798152 - 11/03/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

don't kid yourself, if Christianity had the same amount of power over state affairs in America as Islam does in Saudi Arabia or Iran then homosexuals would be being stoned in a SECOND

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    #23798157 - 11/03/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Power is gradually being wrested away from the christian zealotry, the rise of secularism is what steered western law away from burning witches and homosexuals. Otherwise there's no difference between christian law and islamic law, they both get away with as much oppression as they're allowed.


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    #23798174 - 11/03/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Vote for Hillary
Voting for trump is regressive



What exactly is progressive about Hillary?



He didn't say she was but I do agree with this. Socially he wants bring America back to when you could make fun of mentally handicapped people, he wants to overturn Roe v Wade without including the Supreme Court or the majority of Americans views . To overturn landmark social Supreme Court Cases to me is tyrannical , why not just overturn  Plessy v Ferguson and re- segregate buses and water fountains. We will just have to add two more fountains for Muslims and Mexicans.
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There's no such thing as "Christian Sharia". You're just sensationalizing Christian ethics to fit your lib-brained narrative.

Which would you rather live under if you had to choose? A Free Republic that won't let you kill babies and holds the opinion that sodomy is gross, but otherwise affords you a free existence? Or an oppressive Islamic Regime that will literally kill you for being gay, and has laws that afford murderers the state-sanctioned permission to do it?

It's not even close. You'd have to be a brainwashed libtard to think these two modes of existence are one in the same.




If you truly think that ISIS will suddenly invade America if Clinton wins and we won't be able to stop it,you don't much about US or World history.Or What's going on right now retaking key ground in Iraq and I guess you haven't heard her stance on fighting ISIS for that matter(it's almost the same plan except she doesn't want to occupy and take their oil.Let's talk about gay rights for a second,trump has promised to try and make gay marriage illegal again through the Supreme Court because that's his and his supporters personal beliefs. How is that progressive?


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23798177 - 11/03/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

"Secular" people are some the biggest rock chuckers I've ever seen.


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    #23798204 - 11/03/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You live in a secular country. You don't consider yourself secular?


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23798210 - 11/03/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Grown men arguing with terms like "baby killer" are hard to take seriously.
The entire republican troupe in the pub is a Shitheap of fucking children.

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    #23798211 - 11/03/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I live in a Satanic country with a small remnant of God's people still managing to hold this whole thing off from the brink of destruction.


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    #23798220 - 11/03/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm a right-leaning independent. You have me confused with a stereotype that you've conjured up in your imagination.


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Right leaning? Dont kid yourself


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I'm not right-leaning? Says who? You?


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    #23798233 - 11/03/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think he means to say that you leaned so hard you fell to the floor.


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    #23798256 - 11/03/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Naw, not really. You can only go so far right until you end up in the company of hardcore leftists.

It's a fickle spectrum.


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so the political spectrum is actually a circle?


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    #23798318 - 11/03/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yes. Traditional values lead you back around to blood and soil environmentalism...


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    #23798328 - 11/03/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Is that because traditional values help destroy the environment and eventually remind everyone why they should worry about all the blood in the soil?


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    #23798349 - 11/03/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Have any of y'all seen this handy dandy political quiz?


Just curious what your results are. I'm taking it now, though I'm pretty decided.

https://www.isidewith.com/political-quiz



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95% Stein
91% Clinton
45% Johnson
5% Trump


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76% Stein
70% Johnson
67% Clinton
11% Trump


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    #23798458 - 11/03/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That's something of an interesting dichotomy, but I definitely think that while the green and libertarian parties are opposite sides of the spectrum they have a lot of similar stances on other issues.


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    #23798464 - 11/03/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

A while back there was a thread with that site in it, these were my results:

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Answered every single question in the additional questions, till there were no more questions on any subject.

It said I side with Rocky De La Fuenta, 66%.


Never heard of him. :shrug2:


Rocky De La Fuenta: 66%
Hillary Clinton: 54%
Even McMullin: 51%
Gary Johnson: 50%
Donald Trump: 49%
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    #23798472 - 11/03/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



i did this before when Bernie was still in the running and got like 95% for him or something :tongue:

regardless, I still prefer Trump to Hillary


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I was a bit of a slacker and only answered the immediately visible questions, though I did usually choose the more in depth answers.


I have never heard of Rocky De La Fuenta before either :lol:


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Have any of y'all seen this handy dandy political quiz?


Just curious what your results are. I'm taking it now, though I'm pretty decided.

https://www.isidewith.com/political-quiz



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91% Clinton
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Answered all the additional questions, about what I expected

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    #23798586 - 11/03/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

A throw away line that doesn't make much sense and is limited in historical scope.


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i did this before when Bernie was still in the running and got like 95% for him or something :tongue:

regardless, I still prefer Trump to Hillary




I'm voting for Jack off Jill again.  Just the way I was built she is a cunt who will put industry in it's place.


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A generic rebuttal that doesn't find the sense within and is limited in it's comprehension of the scopes involved.


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    #23798718 - 11/03/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Whatever. Someone asked if far-right and far-left met, and I answered.

"Traditional values" go back to blood and soil concepts of local environmentalism. Local culture. It can be seen as anti-modernism and anti-technology...same as far-left anarchism. (Check out 'Wrath of Gnon' for an idea of where modern conservatism is going) Maybe the term 'traditional values' leaves a bad taste in your mouth? If so, think: Democracy, Creativity, Tolerance, Education. Etc.

These are the 'traditional' values of Western culture.


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Think: Democracy, Creativity, Tolerance, Education. Etc.

These are the 'traditional' values of Western culture.




Nope, the West is a sweeping generalization for a variety of cultures.
Even the US has always been far from united.

Whose traditions are being coveted?


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    #23798766 - 11/03/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Every major culture on Earth is 'a sweeping generalization of a variety of cultures', seems to me. Western culture even more so, as I said, because we represent the values of tolerance, multiculturalism and etc. Doesn't mean the culture doesn't exist or the concept of that culture isn't useful. :shrug:


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Every major culture on Earth is 'a sweeping generalization of a variety of cultures', seems to me. Western culture even more so, as I said, because we represent the values of tolerance, multiculturalism and etc. Doesn't mean the culture doesn't exist or the concept of that culture isn't useful. :shrug:




Those values are far from universal in the West, which was the point.
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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23798786 - 11/03/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Values don't need to be universal in order to be dominant or noteworthy.

Sorry, I look like I'm willfully missing the point but I think maybe we just disagree?

This is what I'm talking about.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Deathby69]
    #23798816 - 11/03/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think we disagree on how dominant or widespread those ideals have been


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23798825 - 11/03/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Deathby69]
    #23798868 - 11/03/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23798876 - 11/03/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

He shaved his goatee

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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23798881 - 11/03/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Samhain. new season.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23799193 - 11/03/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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PeyoteZen said:

Also it's funny to note that libtards are perfectly fine with Muslims expressing their "religious interpretations", which include but are not limited to, beheading disobedient wives and throwing gays off rooftops.




Utter nonsense.



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qman said:
"Min wage increases would not increase unemployment"

You don't know that, it depends on how much higher you hike it.




Well the details can be panned out, Trump suggested $10, Hillary $12, then there's the $15 camp.
Either $10-12 would be reasonable, I think it would be reasonable to raise it to $11 and see what happens.




Yeah, I don't have any issue with that, but there's certain parts of the country that would have a hard time adapting to that mandate.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: qman]
    #23799217 - 11/03/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I understand cost of living and wages vary from region to region, but one of the ways to prevent huge economic disparity in the country is to have a federal, nationwide standard.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: koods]
    #23799237 - 11/03/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How 'bout we take away your stock portfolio and put you to work in the mines, silk slipper.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23799245 - 11/03/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How 'bout you get some preparation H for that butthurt.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: koods]
    #23799251 - 11/03/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

"Out, damned spot! Out, I say!"



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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: koods]
    #23799276 - 11/03/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23799282 - 11/03/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You're a socialist.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23799297 - 11/03/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I live in a Satanic country with a small remnant of God's people still managing to hold this whole thing off from the brink of destruction.



I wish we lived in a Satanic country. Sounds like a hella fun party. :smirk:


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23799305 - 11/03/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hella


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23799308 - 11/03/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: TNK]
    #23799358 - 11/03/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Vote Vermin Supreme!

Free Ponies for all! (though you will be required to have your pony with you at all times because its a federal pony identification program)

Compulsory tooth brushing

Zombie Hamster-Wheel technology to power our clean energy grid.

Time Travel!  The bulk of military funding would be put into time travel research so we can simply go back in time to murder our enemies (like Hitler, for instance) while they are still unborn fetuses.

Vermin Supreme is a friendly fascist who knows what's best for YOU, and that's why YOU should let HIM decide how to run your life.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23799417 - 11/03/16 11:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Vote Vermin Supreme!

Free Ponies for all! (though you will be required to have your pony with you at all times because its a federal pony identification program)

Compulsory tooth brushing

Zombie Hamster-Wheel technology to power our clean energy grid.

Time Travel!  The bulk of military funding would be put into time travel research so we can simply go back in time to murder our enemies (like Hitler, for instance) while they are still unborn fetuses.

Vermin Supreme is a friendly fascist who knows what's best for YOU, and that's why YOU should let HIM decide how to run your life.



I wish. I've showed everyone I know Mr Supreme. At the end of a recent conference, he sprinkled confetti over the NH caniadates saying "Now you're gay" or some shit like that I thought it was hillarious


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23799428 - 11/03/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Mr. Supreme lays it out well in this appearance


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: koods]
    #23799514 - 11/04/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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It's a class action lawsuit with a thousand or more plaintiffs suing him for defrauding them. Your defense is he's a great guy because it's not a criminal case? He's a fucking scum ball that ripped off thousands of people.





it still doesnt mean it's a case with merit. my mother was awarded a settlement in
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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23799621 - 11/04/16 01:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Welp Ive gone out and voted even tho I know nothing of politics, hell I could barely read or write, thanks shroomery for the encouragement, without y'all i would've probably just stayed home and minded my own business, hopefully the gov can get back on track now


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: zZZz]
    #23803624 - 11/05/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Okay, I voted.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: TNK]
    #23803635 - 11/05/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Okay, I voted.




Just once?


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23803681 - 11/05/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Duh.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: TNK]
    #23803697 - 11/05/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's not as obvious as you'd think. But I'm glad you only voted once.

Who'd you vote for if you don't mind my asking? Jill?


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23803791 - 11/05/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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TheNatureKid said:
Okay, I voted.




Just once?



I voted 20 times for Hillary, all the hill shills are gonna swing Texas. :smug:


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23803819 - 11/05/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

dude, politics is Satan.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23803869 - 11/05/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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It's not as obvious as you'd think. But I'm glad you only voted once.

Who'd you vote for if you don't mind my asking? Jill?



He's not an idiot


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: koods]
    #23803881 - 11/05/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I heard in my state you can vote up to three times, but we are all demonRats with special privileges compared to blue states.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23803927 - 11/05/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Voted and sent off my ballot today. Took a few hours for me to fill it out.


President:

Rocky De La Fuente -
American Delta

^Came up on the isidewith.com poll thing, though that's not really what swayed me. There were 22 presidential candidates on my ballot and I looked up a majority of them. Dude was indeed most in line with my views in general. Kind of an off vote that won't affect the election, but perhaps you'll see more ideas like that years down the road. Had one of the major third party candidates been better I might have voted for one of them, but I've been pretty disillusioned with this election on the presidential side of things.

US Senate:

Dan Chapin -
Unaffiliated

REP to 115th US Congress:

Nicholas Morse -
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Not getting too into lower offices, but I don't vote down the ballot on anything. No need to fire competent people over party affiliation alone.

Retained most judges, voted to drop two.

Yes on right to doctor assisted euthanasia.

Yes on raising the minimum wage to 12 over the next 4 years, and adjusting for inflation after.

Yes on raising cigarette tax.

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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23803949 - 11/05/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

PeyoteZen said:
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TheNatureKid said:
Okay, I voted.




Just once?



I voted 20 times for Hillary, all the hill shills are gonna swing Texas. :smug:



All the "Georgia and Texas are flipping" bullshit is the epitome is retardism.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23803953 - 11/05/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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US Senate:

Dan Chapin -
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REP to 115th US Congress:

Nicholas Morse -
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Uhhh, now we all know where you live.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23803956 - 11/05/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Absentee ballot dude.


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Re: Who should I vote for, and why? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23804021 - 11/05/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

PatrickKn said:
Voted and sent off my ballot today. Took a few hours for me to fill it out.


President:

Rocky De La Fuente -
American Delta

^Came up on the isidewith.com poll thing, though that's not really what swayed me. There were 22 presidential candidates on my ballot and I looked up a majority of them. Dude was indeed most in line with my views in general. Kind of an off vote that won't affect the election, but perhaps you'll see more ideas like that years down the road. Had one of the major third party candidates been better I might have voted for one of them, but I've been pretty disillusioned with this election on the presidential side of things.

US Senate:

Dan Chapin -
Unaffiliated

REP to 115th US Congress:

Nicholas Morse -
Republican

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Not getting too into lower offices, but I don't vote down the ballot on anything. No need to fire competent people over party affiliation alone.

Retained most judges, voted to drop two.

Yes on right to doctor assisted euthanasia.

Yes on raising the minimum wage to 12 over the next 4 years, and adjusting for inflation after.

Yes on raising cigarette tax.

Yes on Amendment 69 in Colorado, though this was probably the hardest decision on the ballot for me. May regret that choice later, but it may work really well as well.




Yeah I vote Green for similar reasons.  I don't even really pay close attention to what they're doing I just know they're kind of in line with my views.  Some people would say I am throwing my vote away, but unlike most people I actually vote for who I want to win, and plus I'd say in my state voting Democrat is throwing your vote away.  It's no like they won't win my state anyway.


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