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MushroomHausca
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Kratom.,.PLEASE READ
#23794935 - 11/02/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey all, i haven't posted in a while and you probably wont see me post much until spring when mushers start to grow... but I am starting a huge campaign over Kratom, Me and my friends are going to be starting a huge huge thing that will get Keaton not only completely legal but a plant that you can buy at your local pharmacy and store. Only thing is I have almost no money, all my money that I don't spend on food and apartment on this campaign. I will start a kickstarter or something like that but I'll need y'all to donate money.. we are going to be buying pounds of kratom and will go around openly allowing people to try it and sign the dea thing to keep them from making it illegal. I will need at least $100 to get this started so when I post a link to the fund me page please donate. Who's with me. I will be making clothing giving out Keaton and more
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openmind
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MushroomHausca said: .....Only thing is I have almost no money, all my money that I don't spend on food and apartment on this campaign. I will start a kickstarter or something like that but I'll need y'all to donate money.. we are going to be buying pounds of kratom and will go around openly allowing people to try it and sign the dea thing to keep them from making it illegal. I will need at least $100 to get this started so when I post a link to the fund me page please donate. Who's with me. I will be making clothing giving out Keaton and more

I don't see how any of this is going to keep kratom legal, but you sound so very sure that this is going to work.
This is pretty much what I gathered from your post....
"Lets buys a bunch of kratom and give it out to random people, and these people will tell the dea how awesome kratom is and not to make it illegal and kratom will be available in stores for everyone"
And what "dea thing" are you talking about people signing? And how is it going to keep kratom legal?....and what's keaton?
Sounds to me like one just wants some money for kratom.
And your location says you're in Canada....kratom isn't being banned in Canada...?...So?.....
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Ifishhigh
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Re: Kratom.,.PLEASE READ [Re: openmind]
#23796224 - 11/02/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This post isn't serious .
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thelastoneleft
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Re: Kratom.,.PLEASE READ [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23796527 - 11/03/16 01:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Kratom not going to stay legal..
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wolf8312
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thelastoneleft said: Kratom not going to stay legal..
Why the negativity? Didnt you read the OP?
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Myco_illogic
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thelastoneleft said: Kratom not going to stay legal..
They postponed the decision because of the public and congressmen telling them to take a harder look at it. They postponed it so they wouldn't look like idiots for wanting to prohibit an herbal supplement in the first place. They realized they wouldn't get much revenue by classifying it and moved on to the next.
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krypto2000
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I'm going to start a kickstarter so I can buy a bunch of heroin. No, I'm not a junkie, my plan is to go around letting people try it and once they realize how enjoyable it is I'll get them to sign this petition saying heroin is awesome and surely they'll take it off schedule 1, right? I mean that's why it's banned, because everyone thinks it's not enjoyable. Drugs are always banned for logical reasons so it makes sense they'll listen to logic to reverse the decision.
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krypto2000
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Myco_illogic said:
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thelastoneleft said: Kratom not going to stay legal..
They postponed the decision because of the public and congressmen telling them to take a harder look at it. They postponed it so they wouldn't look like idiots for wanting to prohibit an herbal supplement in the first place. They realized they wouldn't get much revenue by classifying it and moved on to the next.
I find this hard to believe. I mean they banned mdma and had a bunch of psychologists and also a bunch of real scientists petitioning against the ban, saying it was both useful and relatively harmless. We should know by now the DEA doesn't ban things because they're harmful, they ban them because of corporate interest and dogma.
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impaired420
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Re: Kratom.,.PLEASE READ [Re: krypto2000]
#23797004 - 11/03/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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thelastoneleft said: Kratom not going to stay legal..
They postponed the decision because of the public and congressmen telling them to take a harder look at it. They postponed it so they wouldn't look like idiots for wanting to prohibit an herbal supplement in the first place. They realized they wouldn't get much revenue by classifying it and moved on to the next.
I find this hard to believe. I mean they banned mdma and had a bunch of psychologists and also a bunch of real scientists petitioning against the ban, saying it was both useful and relatively harmless. We should know by now the DEA doesn't ban things because they're harmful, they ban them because of corporate interest and dogma.
That was also in the 60's and it's a synthetic chemical. Kratom is natural plant and this is 2016/2017
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ak47myth
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The post was already a joke, but once you said the "dea thing" all bets were off.
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TempestDnB
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Oh yeah? people were raving and rolling in the 60s?
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impaired420
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Re: Kratom.,.PLEASE READ [Re: TempestDnB]
#23797605 - 11/03/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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TempestDnB said: Oh yeah? people were raving and rolling in the 60s?
Sorry typo. Meant the 70s although it was first synthesized in the 1900s so I assume someone somewhere tried mdma before the 70s.
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sunshine
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I will do anything to raise money for kratom legality.
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krypto2000
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impaired420 said:
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TempestDnB said: Oh yeah? people were raving and rolling in the 60s?
Sorry typo. Meant the 70s although it was first synthesized in the 1900s so I assume someone somewhere tried mdma before the 70s.
It wasn't scheduled until 1985, things are the same now as they were then as they were in the 1920's.
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impaired420
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Re: Kratom.,.PLEASE READ [Re: krypto2000] 1
#23799013 - 11/03/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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TempestDnB said: Oh yeah? people were raving and rolling in the 60s?
Sorry typo. Meant the 70s although it was first synthesized in the 1900s so I assume someone somewhere tried mdma before the 70s.
It wasn't scheduled until 1985, things are the same now as they were then as they were in the 1920's.
Look at the surge of marijuana legislation and tell me that.
Or public opinion on cannabis vs public opinion polls of the 70s-80s-90s.
It's not the same, we are starting to realize that the feds lied and the war on drugs failed and that there possibly is medical uses to these drugs when the feds said there where none.
But I'm not advocating mdma I'm advocating kratom, mdma was a metaphor.
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thelastoneleft
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TempestDnB said: Oh yeah? people were raving and rolling in the 60s?
Sorry typo. Meant the 70s although it was first synthesized in the 1900s so I assume someone somewhere tried mdma before the 70s.
It wasn't scheduled until 1985, things are the same now as they were then as they were in the 1920's.
Look at the surge of marijuana legislation and tell me that.
Or public opinion on cannabis vs public opinion polls of the 70s-80s-90s.
It's not the same, we are starting to realize that the feds lied and the war on drugs failed and that there possibly is medical uses to these drugs when the feds said there where none.
But I'm not advocating mdma I'm advocating kratom, mdma was a metaphor.
You're brain continues to develops until you are 29. Kr atom is still legal, buy at most smoke shops or even ecig shops. It will get banned soon, not because or any medicinal properties.
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JacksonMetaller
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"I'm starting a campaign to line my closet with kratom so I can survive the ban" wise guy! A+ for effort
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krypto2000
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impaired420 said:
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TempestDnB said: Oh yeah? people were raving and rolling in the 60s?
Sorry typo. Meant the 70s although it was first synthesized in the 1900s so I assume someone somewhere tried mdma before the 70s.
It wasn't scheduled until 1985, things are the same now as they were then as they were in the 1920's.
Look at the surge of marijuana legislation and tell me that.
Or public opinion on cannabis vs public opinion polls of the 70s-80s-90s.
It's not the same, we are starting to realize that the feds lied and the war on drugs failed and that there possibly is medical uses to these drugs when the feds said there where none.
But I'm not advocating mdma I'm advocating kratom, mdma was a metaphor.
I would challenge that public opinion really hasn't changed all that much, the public at large was never anti drug. Many were ignorant of drugs and will believe what they're told, but what the public believes doesn't matter. Drugs were not outlawed because they're harmful, they were outlawed as a means of control. That is why they remain outlawed. Yeah marijauna has gained a lot of acceptance in many jurisdictions, but those jurisdictions largely already were relaxed on enforcement and I really don't think use has increased much. What matters is that it is still recognized as illegal on a federal level, it's not even openly discussed on that level, and until that is reformed nothing will or has changed.
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musiclover420
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Re: Kratom.,.PLEASE READ [Re: krypto2000]
#23800614 - 11/04/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So your saying the internet hasn't helped public drug opinion progress even a little?

If kratom was going to be banned why did they back down? It could have been schedule 1 already...
If anything it may end up on a lower schedule which would still be a travesty but it's a step in the right direction at least.
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krypto2000
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I wouldn't say the internet hasn't changed peoples opinions, but it hasn't had much impact on legislation. Generally I do not think peoples opinions tend to change much though, internet or not. People tend to form opinions and that's about where it ends. Anything that disagrees with their opinion they ignore or argue against, anything that supports it they support, it makes no difference what the actual truth is or how much scientific research there is to back it up. I mean for fucks sake, look at how many racist homophobes there are out there just supporting trump in this election. It's 2016 and we are actually considering voting someone like that to run our county. Do you really think we've progressed at all since the 70's? I don't.
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