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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: Tripsurfer]
#23805379 - 11/06/16 04:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: Its easy bro

You use the water to heat (but not burn) the oil. Make sure the bottom of the container sits in the water a bit. No need to boil very hard. Just around boiling is perfect. You dont want any water getting in the oil.
Put the oil and weed/hash in the top pot and let it simmer for about 45 mins. You can then use it in your recipe or even just eat spoons of oil. I have sometimes let it cool overnight and used the solid block of oil the next day.
After 45 minutes the pieces of bud will have turned into crunchy little chunks and the oil has become greenish and has a very nice smell. I use it like this in my brownie recipe. Works every time
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: pablokabute]
#23805715 - 11/06/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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sanchothestoner said: i may only have one pot to work with though, so i think i'm going to just mix the oil and water in the same pot and then through the trim in.
people seem to have success with that 
1 pot is all you need. with the water as a heat barrier, youre assured you wont overheat the oil suspension at the top...
the leaf matter goes in the oil suspension at the top if not filtered.
sweet. sounds good. add twice as much water than oil, right?
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yep. so you wont run out of evaporating water...
with very low heat you wont lose that much water tho.
you should update this thread when youre on it. 
making your oil with water at the bottom takes out a lot of gunk too...
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: pablokabute]
#23806260 - 11/06/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah i'll definitely bump this thread when i'm gonna do it. i'm pretty stoked, this will be dope. i'm gonna cover the cooking tray with as much trim as i can 
maybe even do two trays! damn make that shit super strong.
do you strain it?
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: pablokabute]
#23806629 - 11/06/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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What??? You mix the water and oil in the same pot??? 
That doesnt seem right
How do you keep the weed from sinking through the oil and into the water where it becomes useless. For recreational amounts I cannot see how this would be beneficial. One cake needs like 50 to a 100 grams of oil. All molten down that is a very small layer on top of the water. If its boiling that turns into a huge mess imho
With liters of oil I can see how this might work, but if you are working with huge amounts just get a proper setup
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: Tripsurfer]
#23806677 - 11/06/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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When the water is boilong the oil is dissolved in the water and the THC is being dissolved by the oil. then the solution is put into the fridge, the oil solidifies and the cannabinoids and terpenes go with it. cannabinoids are not soluable in water so you dont have to worry about loosing them to water they will stay with the oil.
I just mix with straight oil though personally.
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23806707 - 11/06/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Without an emulsifier the oil will not actually dissolve right? So cannabis-particles that become saturated with water before coming into contact with oil become inaccessible for the oil as its basically floating on the water in the soaked particle.
I can see how this might work despite the water, but why risk it? Who doesnt have two pans?
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: Tripsurfer] 1
#23806741 - 11/06/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think the idea is that you can strain it better with less loss to the filter.
The oil will mostly mix into the hot water. When the temperature decreases it will seperate and float to the top.
But the solution will seperate into two phases no matter what. Even if the oil floates to the top so will the THC. Its not like making bubble hash where the resin becomes brittle and sinks to the bottom. Itbwill form a layer on top iust like the oil.
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23807864 - 11/06/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your coconut oil functions more like a 'vessel' for the cannabinoids to adhere to...
dont worry about mixing water and oil and trims, theyll sort themselves out...
OP seems to have lots of plant material to work with so this seems a better go imho.
Ive never used double boiler for extracting... and this oil and water mixture is all I ever use... at the end of this cycle, you can see how much gunk the water takes out and its kinda gratifying...
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: pablokabute] 1
#23807931 - 11/06/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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yes i have quite a bit of trim to work with. like a pound.
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a pound?!
Thats a whole lot of cannabutter!
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23808231 - 11/06/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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i don't fuck around lol
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sanchothestoner said: yes i have quite a bit of trim to work with. like a pound.
you can make a very, VERY potent oil.
what you do is lay your decarbed trimmings in the pot then add just enough coconut oil to cover the trimmings...
then you add your water then heat em up for you desired time...
you can do 2 or even 3 pulls if you think you didnt get all of the goodies out...
if you ever try this, be careful with the oil, especially the first pull. hahaha
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: pablokabute]
#23808995 - 11/07/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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sweet this all seems pretty easy and doable.
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sanchothestoner said: sweet this all seems pretty easy and doable.
Ya man I always do this tek Im tellin you and its very reliable.
Make sure you use coconut oil, extra virgin coconut oil if available.
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: pablokabute]
#23809706 - 11/07/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Have you ever tried the "gunk" thats left in the water? How can you be sure you are not wasting stuff?
This is most unsatisfactory 
Coconut oil is the shit though
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: Tripsurfer] 1
#23809721 - 11/07/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Because THC is not soluable in water
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23809872 - 11/07/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah thats what I am saying! Anything that gets wet before coming into contact with oil becomes useless
I understand the practical benefits but for the chemical process of dissolving THC into oil I do not see how adding water would help.
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: Tripsurfer]
#23810217 - 11/07/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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u should do a side by side comparsion using the same batch of bud and making cannabutter with water and without water, duel, head-to-head!
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: Tripsurfer]
#23810687 - 11/07/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: Yeah thats what I am saying! Anything that gets wet before coming into contact with oil becomes useless
I understand the practical benefits but for the chemical process of dissolving THC into oil I do not see how adding water would help.
No. It will just be dissolved by the oil not the water. Other solvents in a solution do not impede the other solvents from dissolving things.
And the idea behind adding water is so you can strain it with less loss to the filter than if you strained thick oil. I never add water but pits of people do. Its a legit method. Probably acctually more common than using straight oil. But i dont strain anyway so fuck it.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (11/07/16 06:54 PM)
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