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8 hrs if you have the time. in a hurry, you can probably get away with just an hour of simmering... I do 3hrs most of the time.
I use stainless pot.
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: pablokabute]
#23799502 - 11/04/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would do 8 hours max.
4-6 hours is likely just as good. Just monitor it so u dont burn the oil.
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23799637 - 11/04/16 02:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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An hour is generally enough at barely simmering temp.Butter or oil. I've done side by side taste tests with the same strain and I would tend to get bitter, off flavors when using a 12 hour-slow cooker method. End product would not be something you'd want to add to baked goods.
If you've ever eaten an acorn or straight grape skins; that's the taste it would remind me of. Not over-powering but it was there. Tannins?
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23799854 - 11/04/16 06:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I would do 8 hours max.
4-6 hours is likely just as good. Just monitor it so u dont burn the oil.
if you add water for the simmer, your oil wont burn...
filter the oil and water mixture so you get the solids out, refrigerate. the medicinal oil will solidify, you can them dump the water out.
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: pablokabute]
#23800126 - 11/04/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You have to make sure it doesnt get cold though or the soluability will decrease. Even if its already dissolved and it gets cold it will precipitate out. Its not a super bid deal if you dont srain it but if you do. Strain it while its super hot or you will filter out precipitated cannabanoids.
If you leave it for 8 hours do a double boiler and keep an eye on it.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (11/04/16 09:10 AM)
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23800191 - 11/04/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I made firecrackers the other day and only did 15 minutes decarb in the oven then cooked for another 20. So only tool 35 minutes total and was the most insanely high I have ever been from cannabis.
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: pablokabute]
#23800215 - 11/04/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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pablokabute said: 8 hrs if you have the time. in a hurry, you can probably get away with just an hour of simmering... I do 3hrs most of the time.
I use stainless pot.
sweet. ya i'm doing this at my friends house next weekend cause of how long it takes. we're gonna drop some ald-52 while we do it 
SO:
decarb trim, 2:1 ratio of water to oil, let it boil then reduce to a simmer for 8-12 hours? after that, strain it right away? or banana what'd you mean? strain when it cools or what?
i will be using a pot.
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No if you are going to strain it do it while it is still as hot as possible. If you strain after it cools a bit then the soluability of the oil will decrease and the THC will precipitate out of the solution and become a solid suspended in the solution. If you strain the solid (undissolved) THC will be strained out aswell. Aqueous (dissolved) THC will pass through the filter with the oil.
Id do a pour through with hot oil after you strain and make sure to pre wet the filter with oil first so you dont loose as much to the filter.
I never strain though. I leave the weed in there.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (11/04/16 10:12 AM)
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23800309 - 11/04/16 10:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ok so like right when it's done, strain it?
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Yes if you want to strain at all. Whivh i dont
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23800356 - 11/04/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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wait so you don't even have to strain it?? i can just leave it as is and pour the water out or what?
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Well idk whats going to happen to yours because i dont use water. But i would assume it would be fine either way.
I just melt the oil and stir the decarbed weed in well while keeping it hot. then I put it in the fridge. Whatever you make will have ground crispy weed in it though. It doesnt bother me though.
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23800425 - 11/04/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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i think the water takes that stuff out... no?
someone chime in on this?
luckily i'm not in a hurry to do this, but yeah next weekend seems to be the time.
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If the plant matter floats then it will get trapped in the oil. If it sinks it will stay at the bottom of the water. Because the oil goes to the top and solidifies.
If you try it let us know what happend. Or wait for someone to respond.
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23800667 - 11/04/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sorry if it was mentioned, don't have time atm to read the whole thread but my method is coconut oil (no water) in a double boiler for 45 min. I'd recommend doing this 2-3 times to make sure you get all the goodies. Reason for the short simmer time is because I've heard that heating it too long will cause the thc to further decarb into cbd. And if you're baking with the oil keep the oven below 315 degrees as to not evaporate the thc.
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: Myco_illogic]
#23800692 - 11/04/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It degrades into CBN. Not CBD. I have seen from a few sources that CDB has a higher boiling point than THC so more CBD is left than thc in vaped weed or "over decarbed" weed
But using overdecarbed weed is better than not at all because CBN is more active than THCA. But the edibles will knock you right out and give you a strong body buzz. Great for before bed on a weekend. If you get a good dose you might find it hard to stay awake longer than 3 hours.
Also decarboxylation is removing a carboxyl group. It is what happens when THCA turns into THC. When THC degrades into CBN a bond is broken between an oxygen and a carbon. That is not decarboxylation.
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23802462 - 11/05/16 04:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Man 45 mins is fine. Maybe if you want to strain the stuff to get pure oil you need to cook it longer idk I never ever had any issues with my mixture not being super effective. Just put the oil container in a pan with boiling water and add your weeds. Dont forget to lick out your oil and batter afterwards
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: Tripsurfer] 1
#23802468 - 11/05/16 04:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its easy bro

You use the water to heat (but not burn) the oil. Make sure the bottom of the container sits in the water a bit. No need to boil very hard. Just around boiling is perfect. You dont want any water getting in the oil.
Put the oil and weed/hash in the top pot and let it simmer for about 45 mins. You can then use it in your recipe or even just eat spoons of oil. I have sometimes let it cool overnight and used the solid block of oil the next day.
After 45 minutes the pieces of bud will have turned into crunchy little chunks and the oil has become greenish and has a very nice smell. I use it like this in my brownie recipe. Works every time
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Re: coconut oil for edibles/tincture [Re: Tripsurfer]
#23803178 - 11/05/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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i may only have one pot to work with though, so i think i'm going to just mix the oil and water in the same pot and then through the trim in.
people seem to have success with that
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sanchothestoner said: i may only have one pot to work with though, so i think i'm going to just mix the oil and water in the same pot and then through the trim in.
people seem to have success with that 
1 pot is all you need. with the water as a heat barrier, youre assured you wont overheat the oil suspension at the top...
the leaf matter goes in the oil suspension at the top if not filtered.
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