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Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? Or do I have mold?
    #23794202 - 11/02/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

OK so I got some spore syringes from a non sponsor, could have sworn it was the site I used 10 years ago. Anyways In have some jars, that were inoculated in 4 points. 12, 3, 6, and 9 O'clock. They got shook at about 40% colonized. They seemed to rebound fairly fast and colonize evenly. Issue is there is NO rhizo growth. I have never seen this, I am still kind of noob. So I cant tell if I got a form of a white mold, only encountered ones that changed color, like green and bluish years ago, or mycelium. Now this is my first try growing again in about 10 years. I took some pics but I can't get great lighting. seems to me the pics make it look even whiter. Maybe its me being scared I grew some jars of mold, maybe its suffocating, maybe its fine. Pics are all of the same jar as I didn't want to risk opening them all and the ones of concern look the same. Others I can easily see rhizo growth. I do have some that's similar BUT, they have rhizo growth and the "fuzzy", presumably tomentose mycelium, is thicker, more dense.

Something I should mention. I never used to shake my jars. So I saw a lot of Rhizo growth. These are the 1st jars I have ever shaken. Will the mycelium grow more tomentose when shaken vs not shaken.

Can suffocating mycelium be thin and wispy like cobweb mold? I ask as 2 of them are rather thin but look like this, just thinner.

Sorry I have just put a lot of work into these, like you guys do yours, and I am really nervous I messed up along the way. I could be other thinking this whole thing LOL

***EDIT***Pics of 4 other jars in a post down below







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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23794212 - 11/02/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I sometimes find this when I mix up certain recipes for the bottle tek.  If its too nutrient rich it can fluff up like this and still be ok.

What are you using as a sub and how does it smell?


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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: Edmunter]
    #23794250 - 11/02/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Smells like mushrooms. I uses WHOLE brown rice mixed into verm at a 2:2 rice to verm ratio. That's it.


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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23794271 - 11/02/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

looks shroomy man:thumbup:


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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23794315 - 11/02/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I uses WHOLE brown rice mixed into verm at a 2:2 rice to verm ratio. That's it.




looks good to me, rhizo or tomentose doesnt matter. next time use a 3:3 ratio, kicks 2:2's ass! :tongue2:


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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23794343 - 11/02/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry that's 2:1 lol


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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23794362 - 11/02/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Could lack of gas exchange cause a couple jars to be thiner? I couldn't really find a good answer on what lack of gas exchange would do when I searched.


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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23794379 - 11/02/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

what ya mean cause jars to be thinner?
lack of GE hinders growth, the myc is choking and grows real slow.


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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23794426 - 11/02/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have a jar that looks like this one only the mycelium seems to be thiner, not as dense. Ill have to get a pic of that one.


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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23794464 - 11/02/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Different genetics produce different mycellium behavior, that and the different food you are feeding it, amount of GE, temperature and a whole lot of other factors.  Different species have all sorts of variations. 

Its the old adage  'As long as its clean.....ect ect ect'


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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23794525 - 11/02/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

OK so I cleaned and Lysol bombed a small area to take some pics. I used a lamp with a reflector and got the best pics I could of 4 separate jars. I never had mycelium like this when I grew about 10 years ago. I also had a different strain. I am just concerned that these do not look right to me, from my experiences. Just looks kind of thin and wispy.



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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23794596 - 11/02/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What are you growing?


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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: Edmunter]
    #23794611 - 11/02/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23794628 - 11/02/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

So what are you planning to do with them?


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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: Edmunter]
    #23794643 - 11/02/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

They are just pint cakes. If they are ok they going to get dunked and rolled in next couple days for better ones, and others in a week or so. If that is healthy mycelium, I assume one or two need a little more time as you can see some of the rice. Then they going in the SGFC. These just never looked like cakes I had grown years ago. the mycelium kind of looked to "loose" and "fuzzy" to me like mold. So I got worried that I had screwed up and a few weeks wasted only learning lessons again.


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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23794652 - 11/02/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Cool, go for it.  you dont have to put them all in at the same time, just when they are ready.


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Re: Can a jar have NO rhizomorphic growth?? [Re: Edmunter]
    #23794659 - 11/02/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Think a 64qt SGFC will hold 15 eventually. 3 x 5 pattern, maybe offset the middle row from the outside 2. I should have 15 jars total in a week or 2. Then there is the 24 I just knocked up the other day lol. going to need a 2nd SGFC soon.


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