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OfflineRyry26
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Liberty caps
    #23791456 - 11/01/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hi guys i have nearly 60gs of liberty caps what would be the recommend dose for a first timer and what is the best way to consume , ie eaten with other foods

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Re: Liberty caps [Re: Ryry26]
    #23791496 - 11/01/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hiya, do you have 60g of fresh liberty caps or dry ones?

The dosage depends on whether they're dried or fresh, and the kind of experience you're looking for...
Maybe the dosage calculator and trip descriptions can help you decide?

Liberty caps are also called psilocybe semilanceata, you'll need to know this to use the calculator.

The liberty caps you don't use, you can leave spread out (not touching each other) on a piece of paper at room temp and they'll dry overnight.
I personally wouldn't consume them with other food as it could interfere with the effectiveness. I'd boil up some tea. (:

Enjoy!

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Re: Liberty caps [Re: Iru]
    #23791523 - 11/01/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hi mate they are almost completly dry i have them all spread out in a room with a dehumidifier in . How would i go about making tea with it? Thanks ever so much for your help

Edited by Ryry26 (11/01/16 02:26 PM)

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Re: Liberty caps [Re: Ryry26]
    #23791569 - 11/01/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hello Ryry..

A first time dosage of P. samil i'd said should be 0.5 - 1g.
They are pretty potent. I once tripped on 0.5g a couple of hours, nothing crazy though but there were colors and a good feeling in the body.

I'd recommend that you make tea.

A good recipe is as follows:

Ground or chop fine the dry mushroom

Measure out 0,5 dl of water pr 1 or 2g of dry mushroom.

Pour it in a pot and add just a tad of vinegar. Just the fill the lid of the bottle.

Bring the water to the boiling point and pour it over the ground mushrooms

Let it sit for 10-15 minuts and repeat once.

You can add any kind of taste to it. I don't know what it's called in english but the stuff that you mix with water and then i tastes good.. :wink: Fun ?


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Edited by TheShroomster01 (11/01/16 02:34 PM)

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Re: Liberty caps [Re: TheShroomster01]
    #23791604 - 11/01/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for your reply i shall be giving this ago shortly i have already munched on 1.5g of dry mushrooms whilst waiting on replys still dont feel anything as of yet . Whats the deal with the vinegar ? Also what do i do with the left over from straining it as it seems a waste to bin it thanks alot ryan

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Re: Liberty caps [Re: Ryry26]
    #23791636 - 11/01/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well that's a good dose for a first timer if you've got the right shrooms.
I don't really know. I've been making tea before in different ways and never quite made it work perfect.

Then i thought of some recipes for extracting DMT, an A/B tek where the vinegar was used.
I just gave it a go and i seems like the vinegar helps pulling the psilocybin out of the mushrooms.

I throw the solids out. I don't like eating it since it gives me nausea and the tea gives me the same trip as if i ate it.


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Re: Liberty caps [Re: TheShroomster01]
    #23791655 - 11/01/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I have liberty caps id from a few friends and verified on here so im expecting to feel something . So would you say from trying with and without vinegar you got a better end product using vinegar? Would you say the vinegar changes the taste of your tea much?

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Re: Liberty caps [Re: Ryry26]
    #23791683 - 11/01/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Lets hope you're trippin' soon.

The end product is better with the vinegar yes.
You can't taste the vinegar when you add what ever taste you'd like.
I always use white vinegar btw.


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Re: Liberty caps [Re: Ryry26]
    #23791688 - 11/01/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

1.5g dry is perfect, after eating them it'll probably take around an hour for the first effects to begin.

Maybe next time you can try the tea and compare for yourself... I just bring the mushrooms to the boil, then simmer for 5-10 minutes, strain and drink. Adding a mint tea bag can help disguise the taste if you don't like it.
Adding vinegar or lemon would convert some of the psilocybin in the mushrooms to psilocin, which our stomach acid also does, so when our stomach doesn't have to break it down the effects come on sooner. I prefer not adding anything acidic to the tea unless I want a short and powerful trip.

I'd recommend to play some relaxing music, enjoy :heart:

Edited by Iru (11/01/16 03:25 PM)

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Re: Liberty caps [Re: Iru]
    #23791739 - 11/01/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I have some brewed up with vinegar to give it a try but thats staying put for now as the ones i have eaten are slowly taking hold i feel really relaxed and stoned almost . What sort of music is good to trip too? Cheers guys

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Re: Liberty caps [Re: Ryry26]
    #23791772 - 11/01/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Watch Pink Floyds "The Wall" mind blowing!!
It's like you're watching inside the mind of an acid trip lol

Edited by just_curious (11/01/16 03:41 PM)

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Re: Liberty caps [Re: Ryry26]
    #23791773 - 11/01/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, I'd give it some time as 1.5g will be nice once it gets going (:

Whatever music you love is probably the best, this ambient mix I found recently is pretty smooth...



I just saw your pics in the liberty cap thread by the way, that's a nice haul!

I may head to the SW this weekend myself, around Exmoor so a bit North from you.

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Re: Liberty caps [Re: Iru]
    #23791952 - 11/01/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

They take alot longer to take effect when you eat them rather than tea lol not a bad find for my second time out looking they were all from the moors mate so you should expect to see some.i will give that mix a listen cheers mate

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Re: Liberty caps [Re: Ryry26]
    #23791985 - 11/01/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Iru - I have never experienced a shorter trip from using vinegar in my tea rather than eating shrooms or tea without vinegar.

Last time i tripped was on Treasure Coast, 3g in vinegar tea and tripped for like 6-7 hours.

I didn't know that the vinegar helped breaking down the psilocybin though.
I'll surly have to look in to that.


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Re: Liberty caps [Re: TheShroomster01]
    #23793704 - 11/02/16 04:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Any acid (lemon, vinegar, stomach acid) would dephosphorylate the psilocybin into psilocin, although you have to leave the solution to sit for ~20 minutes prior to ingesting for the full effect. Some call this the lemon tek, it can definitely make it a shorter albeit more intense experience if done effectively, in my experience it feels like a much stronger dose and I'm almost back to baseline @ T+ 4 hrs.

Maybe the vinegar/acid would help extract the goodies independent of dephosphorylation, although psilocybin is already very soluble in water; I've even left dried and ground liberty caps in room temp water for an hour and had an effect from them.

How was the trip Ryry26?

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