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Questions relating to strains and selective breeding
    #23793433 - 11/01/16 11:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hi guys,

First time poster but long time stalker of these threads

Currently on my 2nd grow using the PF Tek, shotgun method and I'm learning a lot

My questions are:

1. Once a jar is full colonised and begins to fruit, is that considered a 'strain'? Or is a single mushroom from that cake one strain?
2. Does taking spore prints from the healthiest fruits have any significance on further grows i.e. 'evolve' your shrooms to be taller and stronger?

I'm aware of the process of isolating strains on agar, but don't have the experience or the knowledge to move on to that yet

Any help you have would be much appreciated

Cheers


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Re: Questions relating to strains and selective breeding [Re: J.Rabbit]
    #23796325 - 11/02/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

1. The word "strain" is not a scientific term, at least now how we use it IMO, so it depends who you're asking. The general usage of the term "strain" refers to a genetic line, so if you bought one syringe, all your projects derived from that one syringe would all be considered the same strain. However, with multispore and the randomness of genetics, you could plausibly say that anything (cake, mushroom, single spore) is its own "strain."

2. This is a gut feeling answer rather than something derived from experience, but I'd say yes, to some degree, but probably not to a significant or noticeable amount. Selective breeding is a well-known concept, but since a spore print consists of millions of randomish genetic offspring, I don't know that you're selecting very effectively. As you are aware, the way to properly selectively breed your mushrooms is to isolate. That said, it certainly feels better to select a beautiful/potent/vigorous/hardy fruit to print, so hey, why not?


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Re: Questions relating to strains and selective breeding [Re: freespeech]
    #23796370 - 11/02/16 11:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Most of the mushrooms from a grow started with spores will be multiple strains. A variety is the name on a syringe. Incorrectly called a strain.


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Re: Questions relating to strains and selective breeding [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23799288 - 11/03/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Am I right in assuming that even a single mushroom from a multispore grow can be made up of multiple 'strains'?

I'm working towards more advance methods, out of my most recent grow I selected the fastest fruiting and largest mushrooms to clone in a liquid culture so fingers crossed I have some success there


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