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OfflineSeriously_trippin
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My Official "Got in a car crash and then overdosed" thread
    #23791658 - 11/01/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Chapter One : So, terrible shit happens to me often and I don't say anything here on the shroomery. If i did I'd be complaining every week at least. This time I really need my shroom fam. I'm in a bad place .And I've actually drowned in a whitewater rapid+bleeding profusely but it didn't traumatized me as bad as last Thursday. I could write a full 10 pages  about what happened but I'll try it in fewer words


I was in a driveway of a big shopping plaza and I needed to turn right onto one of the busiest streets in my area. I cleared my lane, double checked and made my turn perfectly. As I was making the turn though that split second someone in the #2 lane missed his turn or was on his phone and he occupied my exact space in my lane without a blinker and I doubt he was even looking. Because he didn't use his blinker and ran into my lane so fast and sudden there was no reaction time.

I had a split second to react. My mom was in the car and she yelled "he's going to hit us!" Which he was. So I made the split second descion to swerve to the right on to the sidewalk which had no people on it, hoping the curb with my right tires . Reason being is I didn't want the cars behind us to pileup and cause more accidents and possibly more injuries/deaths. Instead the loss of traction and two popped tires made my breaks not work :facepalm: So basically the momentum from the swerving action
and hoping the curb made me hit a fire hydrant on the sidewalk at a fairly fast pace(which they will charge me for replacing if it's damaged) Both my mom and myself were injured but not badly as far as we know.

Also because of the loss of 4 points of traction and popping my right tires we just sailed right into the fire hydrant ,my airbags were apparently inopperable too.More importantly I did not want to be hit by a car behind me because I was sure it make others crash(mind you this was the first time I had driven that as a liscenced driver) & had a split second. just got my first driver lessons this last summer. Got the car about a month ago to :mad2:.

Anyway there were no witnesses AT ALL,no cameras the person took off. And because I swerved to not have him hit me,he didn't hit me which unfortunately is called "No contact" meaning he personally didn't hit my car so I'm legally at fault. The car I've been saving up for and just got is now pretty much totaled and I've been having bad spinal pain ever since.

Chapter 2 :  After I got home I was in tremendous pain so I told my parents to go ahead and go eat dinner somewhere and that unneeded to rest. Well during that time I was in extreme pain physically,depression,trauma/shock and anger . So I decided to take my normal dose of Soma 325mg x 3 . I have been taking AT LEAST 3 soma a day all at once for 5 years . I had ODed one other time when I took 6 and I was almost killed that time as well. But 3 pills is super normal for me. Well 20-30 minutes after i took my soma, I can't talk because my muscle in my face and lips were shaking like a leaf as if I took 6.  I was barely breathing and next thing I really remember is "coming to" in an ambulence . Before I got to the hospital the intense weird high went away.

TLDR
I got ran off the road by someone AND when I took my medications I almost died. That terrifies me and I'm having a hard time moving along


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Re: My Official "Got in a car crash and then overdosed" thread [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #23791729 - 11/01/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry triiping that was a really bad series of events.  What an asshole to leave the scene after you avoided the accident. 

Take care of yourself,  taking drugs when in extreme situations leads to bad judgement.  Take the time to let everything settle in, you will pick yourself up from this and move on. 

It gets better,  everyone has moments in life were we find ourselves in a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.  Don't be too hard on yourself and stop taking drugs in large doses.


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Re: My Official "Got in a car crash and then overdosed" thread [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23791801 - 11/01/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Man that's terrible man

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Re: My Official "Got in a car crash and then overdosed" thread [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23791923 - 11/01/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry to hear that man, just try to be glad you and your mom are alright overall! Cars can be replaced even if it takes time.

Just try to stay on the bright side. Maybe this accident kept you from getting in an even worse one down the line.

If you remember the kind of car that almost hit you maybe reach out locally and see if you can get any info, may be a crap shoot but its better then nothing :shrug:

Did you have any other medications such as opiates in your system that the Soma might have interacted with?

Glad to hear you made it out alive at least :hug: Stay strong and try to focus on the positive, I know it can be very hard at times but you will pull through!


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Re: My Official "Got in a car crash and then overdosed" thread [Re: musiclover420]
    #23792157 - 11/01/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

They at least check out your crash injuries in the hospital?


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Re: My Official "Got in a car crash and then overdosed" thread [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23792188 - 11/01/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sucks, sorry to hear it.

The overdose part sounds weird.  In the hospital, did they explain what might've caused you to have an adverse reaction to the normal dose of a medication you've been taking daily for 5 years?  I've never heard of anything like that.


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Re: My Official "Got in a car crash and then overdosed" thread [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #23792192 - 11/01/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I was wondering that too.


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Re: My Official "Got in a car crash and then overdosed" thread [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #23792471 - 11/01/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the love y'all I really appriciate it. I need it right now :hug: ,let me try and answer a few questions and respond

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musiclover420 said:
Sorry to hear that man, just try to be glad you and your mom are alright overall! Cars can be replaced even if it takes time.
Just try to stay on the bright side. Maybe this accident kept you from getting in an even worse one down the line.
These are both very true indeed ml420
If you remember the kind of car that almost hit you maybe reach out locally and see if you can get any info, may be a crap shoot but its better then nothing :shrug:

I come from a police family with a well respected Sherrif for a stepdad and they saw my name and tried everything they could do to make it 50/50 and bring this person to justice but there was no witnesses,he techniquely didn't make contact with my car,there was no street cameras at all (I live in a desert suburb and they don't have as money as the LA area). The law was simply not on my side. Techniquely if I woudve let him hit me they might've been able to do a 50/50 liability.

Did you have any other medications such as opiates in your system that the Soma might have interacted with?
No I specifically hadn't taken any drugs at all before I drove that day.  When I took the soma I could've still been in shock

Glad to hear you made it out alive at least :hug: Stay strong and try to focus on the positive, I know it can be very hard at times but you will pull through!


I will buddy thank you :hug:
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They at least check out your crash injuries in the hospital?




No, they didn't I and my family were livid about he kind of care I got at the hospital . If I would've asked to be transported right away after the accident they would've had to treat me as high priority but because I was having this later at night the paramedics basically had no clue what was going on. When they got to my house, I couldn't talk. 10 minutes later I was fine. So they assumed it was a combo of blood pressure/anxiety attack interacting with pain from the crash and my prescriptions. They brought me into ER and I was talking fine so they said "Can you walk" I said "yeah I think so" . So they said okay wait in room A for triage . 2 hours later I asked the person calling people back to triage and I asked her how long I'd be there waiting because I was hurting and needed rest. She pointed to a Mexican family and said "they have been there since 4pm" you may not get a room till about 3am (I got there about 9pm)


So long story short they speculated,gave me 0 scans . All they did was press down on my spine looking for a break . I told them everything I told you guys and they basically put me in the lowest risk/attention room in the entire hospital. When they told me I'd be there all night I just said fuck it I have an appointment with my PC physician in a few days I'll get my scans then. @Burke they really just said "well that's weird" essentially.


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Re: My Official "Got in a car crash and then overdosed" thread [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23792532 - 11/01/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Man I'm so sorry for all that shit ST. It really sucks the other driver can't be held at fault. I'm glad you and your mom are alright though. I have no experience and only a slight understanding of soma so I don't know what's up with that. But next time you come talk to your shroomery family before you dose up. Despite my rough understanding I'm certain the anxiety/trauma of your accident was behind your OD.

Take care of yourself :bunnyhug:



Ps. Kratom for pain man. It's a lifesaver. Literally.


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Re: My Official [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #23792642 - 11/01/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

@ Burke & Van My psychologist said it's rare but adrenaline/pain can act like a drug and when I added soma to that mixed it was too much for body to handle. Especially because it went away literally 10min after. But like I said it was as if I took 5-6 soma (which I've done before for thrills and trying to kills) the symptoms were exactly the same but I'm positive I only took 3. That scared the living shit out of me because you're right that's not normal to overdose on a dose I've taken for 5 years. Ever since then I've also been afraid of all my prescription meds.

@Ms Crumbs Thank you :hug: you're right the main thing is I'm not paralyzed and my mom isn't either. It could've been so much worse. Car can be replaced ,I can get another job but I can't gamble with my life. Also I should mention just because 3 325mg soma  is my normal dose doesn't mean it's not a really high dose because it really is. My friends and family have always worried that I'd just OD from it and I told them,it doesn't work that way . That I have a tolerance,I've been taking it for years. Apparently I don't know everything about my prescriptions even after such long use. It really scares me. I even wondered if my pharmacy was getting knock off soma but they look like they have for years. Same marking etc. I think you're right I had a fairly high dose but it was probably everything else that happened to me that day.

The part I'm struggling with is that I made a safe turn,I took my prescribed dosage and still almost died both times (well maybe not the crash) but I feel absolutely helpless. I'm mad and can't get any medical/legal help. I haven't wanted to leave the house or even have my best friends over for more then 1 night. Idk why I just have this anxious feeling in my chest like it just happened. I had been feeling this way all weekend and can't shake it .Not talkative,I feel a little distant,apathetic and generally I feel incredibly discouraged to do anything at all . I made a descion to get battlefield 1 at a specific GameStop that day and as a result of that tiny descion I had my car totaled and have continuing pain,bills,school problems,work problems. Really a lot of important things I set out to get by this year and worked really hard to get were ruined.

Also right now I'm weening down on opiates going from 12mg diluadid a day to 8mg .I really need Kratom though I'm so sick and tired of being addicted to opiates and essentially my mom and I share her pain pills because my pain management doctor fucked me over.


Edited by Seriously_trippin (11/01/16 07:34 PM)


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Re: My Official [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23792853 - 11/01/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

So sorry you had to go through that, but so happy you weren't hurt worse.  It's natural to be shaken up by something like that. 

Be easy on yourself and rest up and relax as much as you can.

It bugs me they didn't do any scans. That is messed up. I would think you definitely need some tests etc.

Anyways much love to you brother. Take your time and just be gentle with yourself.  Take time off work and rest.

Epsom salt baths are relaxing for and good for aches and pains.

Try to keep in mind your actions might have saved lives. Be proud of that.

:hug: :heart:


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Re: My Official [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23793093 - 11/01/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Definitely get some kratom man, if/when I find another cheap/ reliable vendor I will try to let you know!

If you look around you can find it pretty cheap, I have seen it go for 100$-65$/kg domestically which is crazy cheap!

From Asia you can get it 55$/kg or less but you generally need to buy multiple and I am not sure how risky customs are right now, clearly some makes it through :shrug:


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Re: My Official [Re: musiclover420]
    #23793474 - 11/02/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Definitely get some kratom man, if/when I find another cheap/ reliable vendor I will try to let you know!

If you look around you can find it pretty cheap, I have seen it go for 100$-65$/kg domestically which is crazy cheap!

From Asia you can get it 55$/kg or less but you generally need to buy multiple and I am not sure how risky customs are right now, clearly some makes it through :shrug:




Kratom is addictive you know? you surely know this right?

Go take lsd and DMT... much better for solving problems.

What car did you total? like what make model?

You might have PSTD... or at least some sort of mental health problem. Having a addiction and all of this is basically GUARANTEED you have something. Fixing mental health can often lead to fixing addiction. Its no easy task. but best to get it check out.

Here if you need advice on it.


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Re: My Official [Re: kakashi68] * 1
    #23793491 - 11/02/16 12:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Did you read it man? He has OD'd on his pain meds... Kratom can be addictive but you literally cannot OD on the leaf.

Are psychedelics going to help with his pain/ anxiety? Sounds like OP might have some PTSD from this which kratom is known to help a ton with.

That is one of the many reason many Veterans use it along with cannabis. Even single mothers use it. It's really not that addictive when used medicinally.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

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    #23793503 - 11/02/16 12:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Did you read it man? He has OD'd on his pain meds... Kratom can be addictive but you literally cannot OD on the leaf.

Are psychedelics going to help with his pain/ anxiety? Sounds like OP might have some PTSD from this which kratom is known to help a ton with.

That is one of the many reason many Veterans use it along with cannabis. Even single mothers use it. It's really not that addictive when used medicinally.



Quote:

musiclover420 said:
Did you read it man? He has OD'd on his pain meds... Kratom can be addictive but you literally cannot OD on the leaf.

Are psychedelics going to help with his pain/ anxiety? Sounds like OP might have some PTSD from this which kratom is known to help a ton with.

That is one of the many reason many Veterans use it along with cannabis. Even single mothers use it. It's really not that addictive when used medicinally.




Bullshit. Right now... I fucking dare you to go one week without it. Bet you cant can you? or your gunna make some excuse in your head and rationlise it.

If its the only thing keeping you afloat fair enough. But trading one problem for the other isnt going to do anything. Its not going to fix his life. Psychedelics can make you see that change.

Sort out why you do drugs first.


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Re: My Official [Re: kakashi68] * 1
    #23793507 - 11/02/16 12:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:lolsy:

That is like asking me to not drink coffee for a week. I plan to take a brake before too long but I am not going to becouse of your ridiculous opinions.

Trading one problem that has nearly killed you with another probably much cheaper and effective "problem" that is impossible to OD on is a huge upgrade.

Get out of here with your BS.

Like I said kratom is not always used as a drug. If you abuse anything it will have repercussions...

You know how many commonly used things can and do kill people regularly? I could list them out for you if you want. Quit being a judgmental hypocrite...


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

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    #23793514 - 11/02/16 12:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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:lolsy:

That is like asking me to not drink coffee for a week. I plan to take a brake before too long but I am not going to becouse of your ridiculous opinions.

Trading one problem that has nearly killed you with another probably much cheaper and effective "problem" that is impossible to OD on is a huge upgrade.

Get out of here with your BS.

Like I said kratom is not always used as a drug. If you abuse anything it will have repercussions...

You know how many commonly used things can and do kill people regularly? I could list them out for you if you want. Quit being a judgmental hypocrite...




yea how long have been "planning on taking a brake"

Im not saying dont do kratom... Im just saying it doesnt solve anything.

If someone wants to do stupid stuff and mess up all their shit. They will do it. Drugs or no drugs.


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    #23793529 - 11/02/16 12:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Well I'm a diluadid addict so it couldn't be worse then that,I personally feel it could help and I've been needing to ween down anyway. If I could cut down just 4mg it'd be amazing for me. That's just my :twocents: I probably will trip but when real shit is going down that's really bad it's not always best to fry. I just had one of my more epic trips and it was amazing until my brother got attacked by his mother in law and kicked him out following a nasty divorce and his baby will be born any day now . I was on 7 hits of acid and I was still laughing but inside I knew the gravity of the situation. I have a feeling this is one of those times.

I have been to a psychologist and psychiatrist for 8 years or so I do have therapy and psychiatry. I take prescribed a total of 6-7 pills in a 24 hour period. It's a balancing act as is.


I'm having migranes for the first time probably in my life,I'm going to ask my doctor about it along with other stuff.


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    #23793533 - 11/02/16 12:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

hmm... poor murica. Caught under the struggle of big pharma. Dont think I can think of something that has crushed more souls and lives for the pure profit.

I despised the anti depressants they tried to give me. Made me worse.

EVERYTHING IN MODERATION


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    #23793540 - 11/02/16 01:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I took a near 24 hour break the other day and noticed 0 negative effects. Next I am going to see how two days is but I doubt it will be much different.

The thing is I don't take large doses of kratom. The most I take in a day is 4g and that is in 2-3 doses spread out over hours. Usually its just 2-3g though.

I am not denying there is addiction potential but IMO it is closer to coffee and sugar in terms of mental and psychical addiction then opiates...

If I had to rate it I would say its between cannabis and coffee in addiction and abuse potential :shrug: which is relatively benign compared to what it can replace.

It is an effecting painkiller and antidepressant. It's also IMO a much more efficient coffee alternative. It has a plethora of medicinal benefits including stimulating the metabolism, being a powdered leaf it has some nutrition albeit pretty mild most likely. I have heard people say it helps with so many different things, from being an aphrodisiac/ libido booster to boosting the immune system.

Many kratom users report having not been sick in years, since they started using kratom in many cases. This could be becouse of an increase in quality of life IE diet/ exercise but the point is it's clearly a very positive thing for many people. Like literally everything it does have some drawbacks but the positive far out way them.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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    #23793996 - 11/02/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Kratom is addictive. It does cause physical dependence and withdrawal that worsens over time.

However, it is much less addictive than almost any other addictive drug. For most, the WD is minor by comparison to most other physically addictive drugs.

The WD takes a very long time to develop and goes away quickly.

As a two year daily kratom user I learned that eventually the WD did appear and got to be pretty unpleasant, but was never horrible.

Comparisons to coffee are pretty accurate. Although the WD symptoms are different, they are of a comparable severity for many. The common symptoms of caffeine withdrawal, headaches/migraine/irritability/fatigue are actually worse than what I got from kratom.

I agree that OP could benefit from kratom at this point. Especially as a way to reduce use of harder opiates.

I would wait on taking LSD or DMT if I was him until my psyche had stabilized. For now pain and depression management would be my priority and that is where kratom shines.

In my experience the benefits of kratom far outweigh the downsides, but dont kid yourself, daily use will lead to WD you will not enjoy.

Also don't kid yourself, kratom WD is orders of magnitude less than the WD from benzos, alcohol, heroin or pharm opiates for the vast majority of people.

I now take kratom mostly on only 50% of days and get virtually zero WD on off days.


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    #23794511 - 11/02/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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    #23794539 - 11/02/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Definitely get some kratom man, if/when I find another cheap/ reliable vendor I will try to let you know!

If you look around you can find it pretty cheap, I have seen it go for 100$-65$/kg domestically which is crazy cheap!

From Asia you can get it 55$/kg or less but you generally need to buy multiple and I am not sure how risky customs are right now, clearly some makes it through :shrug:




Kratom is addictive you know? you surely know this right?

Go take lsd and DMT... much better for solving problems.

What car did you total? like what make model?

You might have PSTD... or at least some sort of mental health problem. Having a addiction and all of this is basically GUARANTEED you have something. Fixing mental health can often lead to fixing addiction. Its no easy task. but best to get it check out.

Here if you need advice on it.





You know man most people take medicine for pain so that they can function in a normal life right?


Also anxiety and flashbacks so recently after an accident or traumatic incident is super common. It doesn't mean he has a mental disorder :facepalm:


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    #23794635 - 11/02/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
Definitely get some kratom man, if/when I find another cheap/ reliable vendor I will try to let you know!

If you look around you can find it pretty cheap, I have seen it go for 100$-65$/kg domestically which is crazy cheap!

From Asia you can get it 55$/kg or less but you generally need to buy multiple and I am not sure how risky customs are right now, clearly some makes it through :shrug:




Kratom is addictive you know? you surely know this right?

Go take lsd and DMT... much better for solving problems.

What car did you total? like what make model?

You might have PSTD... or at least some sort of mental health problem. Having a addiction and all of this is basically GUARANTEED you have something. Fixing mental health can often lead to fixing addiction. Its no easy task. but best to get it check out.

Here if you need advice on it.





You know man most people take medicine for pain so that they can function in a normal life right?


Also anxiety and flashbacks so recently after an accident or traumatic incident is super common. It doesn't mean he has a mental disorder :facepalm:


How you feeling today ST?




Thats not how the world works... Pain pills are not as solution. As said before its just profit. Any real doctor would actually focus on fixing whats wrong with them. No this isnt for all cases. But most dont need pills.


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    #23794644 - 11/02/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Aren't you a heroin addict, kakashi68?


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Aren't you a heroin addict, kakashi68?




Not for like over 2 months now :stayfunky:



Msybe im just pissy cause I cant have any ahahah

But really In pretty much every country I know cept for murica. Doctors actually want to fix your problem. EG you have back pain... go get some x-rays, tests, ect Get Physio... FIX THE FUCKING PROBLEM. Living on pain pills and getting a 100mg oxy tolerance is doing so much more harm than good.

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    #23794687 - 11/02/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah doctors suck at actually treating the problem and not just the symptoms for pretty much everything. But you recommend smoking dmt. Which could possibly help for psychosomatic pain. But on the other hand psychedelics are known for making mental illnesses worse. And if it is a physical issue causing pain, one that has no treatment, that could go badly too. So it has a small chance in helping and a good chance at making everything worse.

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    #23794701 - 11/02/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You listen to too much Macklemore.  I agree that there are still a few crooked doctors who should check themselves with the pad, but the problem is nowhere near what it was 7 years ago.  If anything, I feel that it's been over-corrected.  Most doctors are now so afraid of being jailed for playing fast and loose with the painkillers that they're reluctant to prescribe anything even in extreme cases.  Not always, but many doctors are overly conservative.  The damage from the easy script days has been done though: we have a ton of opiate addicted people here who were prescribed and then when their doctors tried to dial it back or cut them off, they switched to heroin.  We have bootleg pharm meds made with fentanyl (this problem is worse in Canada).  But it's not like it was, and if you think that opiate addiction is a problem only in "Murica" (do you know how dumb you sound when you type that?), that only illustrates your ignorance on the topic. 

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    #23794713 - 11/02/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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    #23794715 - 11/02/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:thatsinteresting: :whathesaid:


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    #23794724 - 11/02/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Tbh, I don't listen to him.  I was referencing that 'Drug Dealer' song that is everywhere right now.  I get it, and there's an element of truth to it, but I don't like the song overall.  It sends the wrong message, IMO.


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    #23794747 - 11/02/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have never heard of anyone overdosing on soma before. that is nutty.


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    #23794756 - 11/02/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Aren't you a heroin addict, kakashi68?




Not for like over 2 months now :stayfunky:



Msybe im just pissy cause I cant have any ahahah

But really In pretty much every country I know cept for murica. Doctors actually want to fix your problem. EG you have back pain... go get some x-rays, tests, ect Get Physio... FIX THE FUCKING PROBLEM. Living on pain pills and getting a 100mg oxy tolerance is doing so much more harm than good.

Theres always other ways.
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You listen to too much Macklemore.  I agree that there are still a few crooked doctors who should check themselves with the pad, but the problem is nowhere near what it was 7 years ago.  If anything, I feel that it's been over-corrected.  Most doctors are now so afraid of being jailed for playing fast and loose with the painkillers that they're reluctant to prescribe anything even in extreme cases.  Not always, but many doctors are overly conservative.  The damage from the easy script days has been done though: we have a ton of opiate addicted people here who were prescribed and then when their doctors tried to dial it back or cut them off, they switched to heroin.  We have bootleg pharm meds made with fentanyl (this problem is worse in Canada).  But it's not like it was, and if you think that opiate addiction is a problem only in "Murica" (do you know how dumb you sound when you type that?), that only illustrates your ignorance on the topic. 

Good job cleaning up, though.  Those first few months are the toughest; I hope you get through them comfortably and stay out.  Once you're farther removed from it, staying off the h is pretty easy.




I dont listen to him... no not all doctors are like that... But your opiate problem is ridiculous. I dunno blame statistics. Most reports Ive read is that your country is the worst... or at least in the top 5. If you dont think pharma for profit is a problem... yea m8... no. Stats say it is worse that 7 years ago...

Also you will forever be murica till you get your shit together. Your like a week away from electing a sex fiend, dictator, narcissist.


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    #23794764 - 11/02/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Good talk, kakashi68.


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    #23794841 - 11/02/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

CC you are right and thank you for explaining that to him. However kakashi is giving this advice from his experiences they maybe misguided and not really understanding but I can tell he just posted what he did because he was trying to find good advice without a lot of personal experience. I appreciate the sentiment I really do. That's why I wanted to explain I have had a psychiatrist since age 15.

I was on 4mg of Xanax a day by about 16 years old and ever since (almost 7 years now) I've been hopelessly addicted and I'm often convinced I won't ever be able to quit benzos & opiates . So I'm heavily considering trying Kratom.

And I have to say a big smile dawned my face when I saw you're asking a follow up question CC and I really feel the love and support from everyone in this thread that I desperately needed. Thank you all. Most threads have a shelf life of one to two days but I'm going to be dealing with some problems emotional and physical for more then a few days. Especially because everyone in this thread I consider friends and a little like family. :hug: :heart:

To address Ms Crumbs specifically : that's exactly what my psychologist said ^^,you're a smart cookie(no pun intended I swear) :lol: Even people who have no preexsisting anxiety or physical problems can be traumatized for a while by the sequence of events I was in. I just really need to figure out how to move on. That's the biggest step. I actually have been kind of suffering from PTSD before this because of all the family deaths/suicides my family has been dealing with recently and I just barely have started feeling better from that and then this happens :facepalm:

Today I have a lot of pain ,don't feel super depressed and I'm just taking it extremely easy right now.

Also I took some Advil today,I woke up in pain in my head and spine at about 7am. I just took my new daily dose of diluadid(one third of what I was taking) and it took the edge of for the next hour I'm guessing. As I said before I was at 12mg a day for MANY years,closer to a decade really.  Now I'm at 4-8mg at most. I'm sick and tired being a slave to it.


Also my Ex and I always care about each other,talk frequently etc. So I told her (completely embarrassed) that I didn't just crash my car and that I overdosed. I thought she'd be mad and generally think of me as a piece of shit or selfish but that's why I messaged her about this,she never has blown me off or take what I say lightly. It was the exact oppisite . She talked to me about it,understands I wasn't trying to kill myself, helped me realize that Ive always been extremely resilient,I'm no pussy by any means and I'll make it through this. It doesn't have to ruin my life if I don't let it.I love that woman.

I also love y'all ,my shroomery fam is amazing  :love:


You say this :EG you have back pain... go get some x-rays, tests, ect Get Physio... FIX THE FUCKING PROBLEM. Living on pain pills and getting a 100mg oxy tolerance is doing so much more harm than good.

The very first thing I did after the crash was schedule an X-ray,MRI and cat scan.I've mentioned several times that I've been an opiate addict for around 6-7 years. I'm 22 so I'm trying to tell y'all I was at a dose of over 20mg a day for when I was 15 and I'd plug 120mg of morphine at the same time each time. I'm incredibly aware of the addiction and I want them out of my life. My gma passed last August and I was her care giver. They'd give her about 100 extra 4mg diluadid and all day everyday I nodded while taking care of her. I was an opiate addict and had to dispense diluadid and morphine everyday and night.

Also as I mentioned I've had a psychiatrist and psychologist for around the same amount of time (about 5 years I think).  Everday I know diluadid and opiates need to get out of my life entirely for my own good  . That's what addiction is . Personally I'm proud of myself that last year August I was at 20-24 mg diluadid a day and now I take 4mg a day . In short I've been trying to quote "FUCKING FIX THE PROBLEM" for years . One of the main problems is I've been seriously injured in a whitewater rafting accident,I have fallen down a dry waterfall, I have occipital neuralgia, just was in a car crash. I deal with pain everyday,night and morning, I know pain pills aren't the answer but neither is suffering. God I wish I could quit opiates but until someone treats my pain it'll be very hard to get off pain meds.


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    #23795038 - 11/02/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I know the feel man :hug: as far as being in pain and not being able to find another way. It sucks. I think I'd either be dead or on shitty street opiates if I hadn't found kratom personally. Your case sucks tho cuz you have such a high tolerance. Kratom is great but I can't imagine it is comparable to diluadid. Though there may be extracts or enhanced strains out there that come close. I don't know but if there were a place to find out it'd be the shroomery.

It's great you've cut back so much though. You are running a marathon and you've only got a few more miles to go from this point. I think you can do it, even if it will suck. But I don't think you should worry too much about that right now with everything else going on. I consider switching from hardcore long term opiate abuse to kratom alot like switching from cigarettes to vaping (no debates or jumping on me for this guys) it's definitely not the same, but it's close enough it can make due, it makes it way easier, and given enough time you may prefer it. But making the switch won't happen unless you really want to get off the opiates and are prepared to do so.


I think you're doing it the best way you can though, for now at least. I'm glad you're not as anxious today. Try not to let the extra aches and pains become an excuse to up dose. You don't want to have to rerun old miles in a marathon.

Thanks for always being nice and appreciative. I appreciate your appreciation :lol: :heart:




Oh and I have nothing against Kakashi, I know he was trying to help, but I wouldn't want someone to take bad advice. Psychedelics being used as medicine is good and I support it but it really has to come with a big disclosure. And ime people here don't include one or don't think it needs one. Like "oh just have a bad trip it'll be a good experience" when the health forum is full of people with issues, lasting issues at times, from bad trips.


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    #23795083 - 11/02/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Even with a high tolerance kratom could be perfect for helping him wean the rest of the way down. Then he can manage his pain/ anxiety with it as long as necessary.

Even at 30g a day 1kg should last 3 months or so and at 50-100$ that is still pretty cheap I would say.

Not sure the price of most meds but 100$ for 3+ months seems pretty good to me. That is at an insane dose too. He may find 5-10 or less is plenty :shrug:


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    #23795104 - 11/02/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

True, he could split 75 25 at first and slowly increase the kratomm ratio till he's off the opies. But like I was trying to say in my rambling now may not be the best time. Sounds like he should focus on cutting the soma now if he's having adverse reactions to it.

Also meant to say making such a dramatic cut in dose, while good, could have possibly played into the OD :ohwell: did you make a recent cut ST?


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    #23795179 - 11/02/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I am not trying to recommend any dramatic shifts but it seems smart to try and start weaning down to less harmful things even very slowly/ steadily :shrug:


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    #23795189 - 11/02/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How sure are you that what you had was an OD and not some kind of health reaction triggered by the car accident?

Spinal pain, whiplash, brain injury etc?


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    #23795282 - 11/02/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It doesn't sound like a standard OD at all, does it? I'd think if there was a serious injury the hospital would have found it..? Doctors can be hella incompetent tho...


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He said they didn't run any tests...


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    #23795441 - 11/02/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:confused2:


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    #23795464 - 11/02/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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He said they didn't run any tests...




He also said he has some scheduled with his physician I believe so hopefully he gets some done soon.


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    #23795502 - 11/02/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Well fuck yeah that's incompetence. That's sad. That's really sad.

OP should have noticed some other symptoms by now if it was spinal injury though. Brain injury is iffier. Whiplash is likely but, unless he hurt his spine, it wouldn't cause the "OD". But it would be harder to gauge since he's already on such strong opiates. :justdontknow:


Hope he does get an appointment soon at any rate. What even is the point in going to the hospital these days...


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    #23795741 - 11/02/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah they kind of fucked me on the scans. The way I understood it all they would do is triage and let me go. I am seeing my primary care but I had to wait for that too and still haven't seen him .

I will pm you indeed Ms. Crumbs.


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    #23795830 - 11/02/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Edible weed might be worth looking into as well
For the anti inflammatory and pain relief benefits


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    #23795847 - 11/02/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Edible weed might be worth looking into as well
For the anti inflammatory and pain relief benefits




It can be too intoxicating for many though I feel. Definitely worth looking into though especially CBD products.

Hopefully you are in a legal state as even then CBD products can be pretty expensive. Been trying to find a simple way to get high CBD products...


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Re: My Official [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #23795888 - 11/02/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry about your accident.  You should have your primary refer you to a physiatrist and do some physical therapy and/or massage.  If your pain doesn't resolve, get an MRI.  Frankly, the advice in this thread is really bad.


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Re: My Official "Got in a car crash and then overdosed" thread [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23796107 - 11/02/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Damn man, sorry you're going through it, glad to know you're OK though, just remember this too shall pass.

Some of the most important life lessons I have learned, came from the greatest traumas in my life, c'est la vie.


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Re: My Official [Re: musiclover420]
    #23796170 - 11/02/16 10:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What I'll do is just get a new car and move on. Be more mindful of my meds . But as I mention I've had a psychiatrist and psychologist for a little less then a decade with therapy of physical and mental. 

@ moonshoe  I'm not in a legal state and not only do I have very little money but my stomach problems make digesting anything I eat very tough on my stomach including edibles. Although I could just get some cannabutter melt it down and take it like a shot. I can get about 1,000mg butter for 15$ thanks moony.

There's some relatively inexpensive cbd products but my medical cannabis buys are by far the most expensive thing I buy .  Personally my life would be completely different if I lived in a state with legal cannabis, luckily it was on the ballot this year for California so I really hope it passes . I hear people getting $90 zips versus when the cheapest I can get it is $300-400 ounces . I would put that money towards a new car or school if I could.

The six or seven pills I've mentioned I take still used to be over 15 pills a day without medical cannabis. When I was just on prescription medications and didn't have cannabis I went to emergency room every three days because I couldn't hold down any water . The medications made me extremely depressed,suicidal,massive weight gains,permenant stomach damage,constant anxiety attacks etc. By the age of 17 I was on something like 100mg of ritilan,18-24mg of diluadid, seroquel,zyprexa,lithium,Prozac,ambien,remeron and more I can't remember .

My life was hell for most my teen years until I got of the heavy anti depressant/anxiety . Now all I NEED is weed,Xanax ,remeron and I've been trying for a long time now to ween off opiates. The fact of the matter is I was a guinea pig for my entire teenage years for Pharms pushed by my doctors. In the last 10 years or so though they now have commercials saying if you've been injured by this or that drug when you were a child you may have serious health problems and to me it makes sense that me being prescribed Concerta at age 8, getting on benzos,opiates and anti depressants sometime after age 14 or so. All that shit has effected me one way or another.


@CC I have been very careful with my scripts since this and yeah I can't explain how fucking soma overdosed me out of all the drugs I dont know.Although as I said that's essentially a gram of soma and I probably had 2 days before this without any at all which you as you mentioned may have lowered my tolerance just enough to be too much for me.


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