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Can we please? Politics in political forum? * 7
    #23791612 - 11/01/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's getting out of control, as if it ever wasen't. Please start moving threads and maybe giving out very brief bans to those who continue to post politically oriented thread/political news articles in the pub. If you moderate like this the political discussion will flow to the political forum and add the proper traffic to those who want to fight among themselves.

While some threads teetering on the tracks of politics are okay, full out politically motivated threads should be moved.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Ras Rising] * 3
    #23792206 - 11/01/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

They are moderating it to some extent.  A Hillary related thread disappeared rather quickly the other day.

Sit tight, election year will be over soon, and a lot of us agree with you and suffer the bore of the politics crap in the pub, you aren't alone.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Ras Rising]
    #23792860 - 11/01/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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If you moderate like this the political discussion will flow to the political forum and add the proper traffic to those who want to fight among themselves.



No, it won't, it'll cause a huge backlash and lots of anger in the community.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23792959 - 11/01/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What makes you say that?


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23793194 - 11/01/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Ras Rising said:
If you moderate like this the political discussion will flow to the political forum and add the proper traffic to those who want to fight among themselves.



No, it won't, it'll cause a huge backlash and lots of anger in the community.




Not at all, it might make the pub slightly less of a garbage heap.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Byrain]
    #23793387 - 11/01/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Not at all, it might make the pub slightly less of a garbage heap.



I agree that it would likely improve the Pub, but for every couple of members that would welcome this change, there'd likely be another that would kick up a stink about it. It just seems to be the way of things.

Perhaps if OP would start a poll asking the Pub what they thought of this idea we'd get a better idea of how well, or how badly, this would go down.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23793409 - 11/01/16 11:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sometimes you just gotta rip the figurative band-aid off. Sure some would raise a stink, but in the long run it would be much better and the detractors would eventually tire or go away. Though there is a lot more wrong with the pub than misplaced political threads to be honest. I'm probably not the right person to weigh in on this discussion either as the pub is one of the forums which I have hidden since every attempt at reading threads there has been either extremely unpleasant or pointless. I think the best thing you could do for the pub is to make it a place where the moderators and other staff would actually enjoy participating in as users, this undoubtedly would require ruffling some feathers.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23793932 - 11/02/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The only people who would raise a stink are the same 5-7 people who are in every one of those threads saying the same exact things back and forth. What could they even really complain about, having to go to the correct forum to discuss certain things? It's not like they're really being stripped of anything, just relocated to where they should of made the thread in the first place.

If the argument is that political discussion doesnt get as much traffic, there's a reason for that, most people are tired of having the same arguments over and over and no one ever changing their mind, no matter how they start after one page it ends up returning to the same shit from the same people and ends up with them attacking each other and anyone who happens to join in personally rather then the arguments presented.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: SirShroomsAlott] * 1
    #23794620 - 11/02/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My 2 cents, number one the political season will be over in less than a week, that will naturally put an end to those discussions and threads.

Number two, those political threads do get huge viewership relative to other threads, one of the goals of the site is to have increased traffic.

Number three, we have two Mods which are active participants in the majority of those threads.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: qman]
    #23795032 - 11/02/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

High view count doesn't equal increased traffic IMO, I can click any thread and refresh 800 times to get the view count up, doesn't necessarily mean higher traffic. Which is something I think happens to some extent considering how fast the responses usually roll in from only a select amount of people at any given time. But the election is pretty close so hopefully it'll settle down after a few weeks or so.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23796948 - 11/03/16 08:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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No, it won't, it'll cause a huge backlash and lots of anger in the community.




:judyfacepalm:

Lol. No, it most likely would not.
It's insulting and condescending to assume that so many fine members of the community couldn't handle some threads being moved.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23796966 - 11/03/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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High view count doesn't equal increased traffic IMO, I can click any thread and refresh 800 times to get the view count up, doesn't necessarily mean higher traffic.




Theres a corelation, not a causation. Thats the difference.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Ras Rising] * 2
    #23807254 - 11/06/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

wow i didnt even see this before when i made the same exact thread lol

guess a lot of people feel the same way i do, gonna delete my thread now


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23820950 - 11/10/16 07:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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If you moderate like this the political discussion will flow to the political forum and add the proper traffic to those who want to fight among themselves.



No, it won't, it'll cause a huge backlash and lots of anger in the community.




Yeah, if political threads in the pub were being limited, you'd know it. Lol does it look like they are being limited? Oh my god, just read the pub today tomorrow and yesterday to see just like no political threads anymore.

It looks like all the moderators have fled from the pub and in a way I couldn't be happier. It's just a nice change. Do you think general shroomery discussions would even exist anymore without political discussion?


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: imachavel]
    #23825819 - 11/12/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Well, the official response from the Admins is in; Political threads are to remain in the Pub.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23825826 - 11/12/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

reason?


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23825850 - 11/12/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The Pub has a different userbase than the Politics forum, and is open to all topics, as long as they comply with the rules.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23825851 - 11/12/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Just hide them.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23825874 - 11/12/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The Pub has a different userbase than the Politics forum, and is open to all topics, as long as they comply with the rules.




Which, whiners aside, is how it should be.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Adden]
    #23825878 - 11/12/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Just hide them.




No, it's far better to deprive others.

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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23825953 - 11/12/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How it should be is how the admins decide it should be. This is their baby.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23826728 - 11/12/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

And yet... it's still how it should be.

You can discuss anything in a Pub.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23826746 - 11/12/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Instead of knocking political threads elsewhere, I think condensing threads of similar topic when they become too numerous, or even just straight up deleting some page one threads with the same content as other threads, would be more beneficial overall.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23826771 - 11/12/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Or even better... If one does not like them, one need not read them. Seems like a better way rather than take them away from those that enjoy them.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23826776 - 11/12/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

5 threads on the same exact subject or event  floods the front page and kills discussion on other topics though.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23826784 - 11/12/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No, because the uninteresting ones slip off the front page soon enough. Most of the election threads will last a few days and then thin out.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23826785 - 11/12/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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No, because the uninteresting ones slip off the front page soon enough.



Then it hurts nothing to delete or condense them.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23826789 - 11/12/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It hurts nothing to leave them. It makes those that start them and participate in them unhappy if they're deleted.

Better they die a natural death.


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: qman]
    #23826798 - 11/12/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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My 2 cents, number one the political season will be over in less than a week, that will naturally put an end to those discussions and threads.

Number two, those political threads do get huge viewership relative to other threads, one of the goals of the site is to have increased traffic.

Number three, we have two Mods which are active participants in the majority of those threads.



I've seen prisoner move threads from the pub to the conspiracy theory ... most of these threads were not conspiracy but simple didn't follow the establishment views .  You can have political threads in the pub which is against the rules I have no problem but don't be moving other threads and leaving the political garbage to stay when is breaking the rules just as much.    I knew you would defend it , typical qman


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: SinSemilla]
    #23826803 - 11/12/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You can break the rules I'm no snitch but don't duck with me when I break them as well stop being hypocrite s


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23826810 - 11/12/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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It hurts nothing to leave them. It makes those that start them and participate in them unhappy if they're deleted.

Better they die a natural death.



So I can post conspiracy theories on how Donald Trump molest children on the pub now ? Or is it not a conspiracy theory?


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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: SinSemilla]
    #23827975 - 11/13/16 05:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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It hurts nothing to leave them. It makes those that start them and participate in them unhappy if they're deleted.

Better they die a natural death.



So I can post conspiracy theories on how Donald Trump molest children on the pub now ? Or is it not a conspiracy theory?




Really?

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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: SinSemilla]
    #23828220 - 11/13/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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My 2 cents, number one the political season will be over in less than a week, that will naturally put an end to those discussions and threads.

Number two, those political threads do get huge viewership relative to other threads, one of the goals of the site is to have increased traffic.

Number three, we have two Mods which are active participants in the majority of those threads.



I've seen prisoner move threads from the pub to the conspiracy theory ... most of these threads were not conspiracy but simple didn't follow the establishment views .  You can have political threads in the pub which is against the rules I have no problem but don't be moving other threads and leaving the political garbage to stay when is breaking the rules just as much.    I knew you would defend it , typical qman




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Re: Can we please? Politics in political forum? [Re: qman]
    #23861804 - 11/23/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

it's still idiotic, and i will continue to mock people whom partake if they say something stupid.

Donald Trump needs to be in office for awhile, then...see where things go from there.


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