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Question about fruiting chambers
    #23790488 - 11/01/16 06:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I currently have 11 cakes in a shotgun fruiting chamber. I've had them in the FC for a little bit over a week, and have not had very much pinning except for on one my cakes, and the pins that have appeared do not look quite right (lots of little black spots, bacterial blotch maybe?). On top of this, I will have to be away from the FC for a week pretty soon and will be unable to tend to them. Would crushing up the cakes and switching to a monotub be a good course of action? My understanding is that monotubs do not require any of the maintenance (like misting and fanning) that SGFCs do.


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: Kardo]
    #23790537 - 11/01/16 07:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

We need pics K


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: Groo]
    #23790733 - 11/01/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sure, sorry.



Here is a pic of my FC, it's sort of janky....




Here's a couple pics showing the black discoloration. A couple of the pins have split caps as well, but I'm pretty sure that's due to dehydration. It's kind of hard to see the discoloration, but it is especially noticeable on the split pins.


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: Kardo]
    #23790769 - 11/01/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That perlite needs to be wet and you need to mist and fan 5 times a day.  Splitting heads is a problem with your humidity and FAE.  I would go so far as to say you have too many cakes in your SGFC, not enough perlite and is that an external light source?


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: Edmunter]
    #23790831 - 11/01/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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id say double the perlite.

brf cakes in mono tubs is possible but has its own set of issues.
such has breaking up the cakes. i used to put them in gallon zip locks
and mash em up the best i could but you damn near always get large chunks
because they clump up.

thats why bulk is best with grains. each tiny grain is easily separated
and can be better mixed with the bulk spawn(coco, poop whatever)

to be honest id break open your piggy bank and go buy a large clear tote
and make a better sgfc. that one you got looks better for storing legos/pet food.


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: mushboy]
    #23790886 - 11/01/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks everyone for the replies. The main reason I was interested in switching to monotub is because in a couple weeks, I won't be able to tend to them for about a week. I probably should have planned this all out better, but it is my first grow and I didn't realize the amount of regular maintenance that an SGFC would require when I first started. So, I will probably end up having to switch to a monotub anyway, since I assume that using one would produce better results than if I were to leave an SGFC unattended for a week. I will construct a new SGFC though, and leave them in there for the next couple of weeks until I have to leave.

But I am wondering, are there any problems associated with using cakes as spawn after they have already begun to fruit, or after they have already finished at least one flush? Would they have trouble colonizing the monotub substrate?


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: Kardo]
    #23790898 - 11/01/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I feel like 50% of noobs have to leave for weeks at a time. A SGFC is second most automated fruiting chamber monotub is no1


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23790907 - 11/01/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I was under the impression that not misting/fanning for a week would basically kill them. If that's not the case then I will just leave them in the SGFC while I'm gone. Thanks!


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: Kardo]
    #23790908 - 11/01/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No it won't kill them


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: Kardo]
    #23790914 - 11/01/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

There are some that say when the mycelium moves from one stage to another its best to let it get on with it.  It will work but its not optimal.

SGFC are great to leave for a week or so.  Im a festival trader and am away for 4-8 days every festival.  If you follow the rules of sgfc, make sure the perlite is extra wet, they look after themselves.  Again they dont run optimal but run.  Mono tubs need looking after too until you learn how to dial them in properly.

My advice is to make a bigger sgfc and take half out the one u have and put them in the other one.  If you are going away for a week you dont want them fruiting and farting spores all over the place though so pick off the fruits that are nearer to sporulating


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: Edmunter]
    #23790919 - 11/01/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Will do. Thanks again for the help everyone. :smile:


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: Kardo]
    #23790960 - 11/01/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Question to some of you that posted on here and have more exp. Since hydrogen peroxide, when left out in an open container, simply separates out oxygen and water, which will evaporate, would it be possible to set a few small, maybe shot glasses, of h2o2 around in the SGFC to add some humidity while away? This should not grow anything in it as the h2o2 should kill it and when the h2o2 breaks down you get water and oxygen.


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23790969 - 11/01/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Question to some of you that posted on here and have more exp. Since hydrogen peroxide, when left out in an open container, simply separates out oxygen and water, which will evaporate, would it be possible to set a few small, maybe shot glasses, of h2o2 around in the SGFC to add some humidity while away? This should not grow anything in it as the h2o2 should kill it and when the h2o2 breaks down you get water and oxygen.




No this is a terrible idea and you are way past sterile stage by now so you dont need to kill anything.  Read how a SGFC works and you will see.  I think Bod explains it well in his signature links.


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: Edmunter]
    #23790986 - 11/01/16 11:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

why are people hung up on humidity?

apply that same mindset to fresh air exchange.
its more important.


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23790990 - 11/01/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Question to some of you that posted on here and have more exp. Since hydrogen peroxide, when left out in an open container, simply separates out oxygen and water, which will evaporate, would it be possible to set a few small, maybe shot glasses, of h2o2 around in the SGFC to add some humidity while away? This should not grow anything in it as the h2o2 should kill it and when the h2o2 breaks down you get water and oxygen.



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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23791014 - 11/01/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ok thanks for the info


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: Edmunter]
    #23791021 - 11/01/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I was referring to nothing growing in the shot glass of h2o2. Straight water would have the chance to grow bacteria.

As for the humidity part. Will a 4-6 inch layer of perlite really keep enough moisture and thus RH for a week of an absent grower?


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23791029 - 11/01/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Just let it work as is. A few decades of trial and error its dialed in if built correctly


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23791032 - 11/01/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Good to know. Thanks for adding to my knowledge.


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23791079 - 11/01/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I was referring to nothing growing in the shot glass of h2o2. Straight water would have the chance to grow bacteria.

As for the humidity part. Will a 4-6 inch layer of perlite really keep enough moisture and thus RH for a week of an absent grower?





As said before leaving give the perlite a good soak in water, drain, pick all potential fast fruiters and leave for a week


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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23791085 - 11/01/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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why are people hung up on humidity?

apply that same mindset to fresh air exchange.
its more important.




Quote:

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As for the humidity part...




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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: mushboy]
    #23791112 - 11/01/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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mushboy said:
Quote:

mushboy said:
why are people hung up on humidity?

apply that same mindset to fresh air exchange.
its more important.




Quote:

TheMadHatter420 said:
As for the humidity part...




:facepalm3:





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Re: Question about fruiting chambers [Re: Edmunter]
    #23791116 - 11/01/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If someone mentions humidity one more time :rocketcrotch:


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