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Offlinepixelpopper
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Re: Smoking melatonin [Re: that1dude]
    #22386911 - 10/16/15 03:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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that1dude said:
okay, so... as some (maybe most) of us know, tryptamines are not normally active orally. melatonin is in fact a tryptamine. so in essence, melatonin orally could very well be considered placebo. now if one could get pure melatonin and was to freebase it... who knows what could happen. if anyone does pm me about it. I would like to know the results. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin





Melatonin is definitely active orally.

And pure melatonin powder is easy to order and cheap. Don't know why anyone is bothering with pills

Tons of info on melatonin online, including lots of crazy experiences... particularly when combined with harmalas. Don't know about smoking it though


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Re: Smoking melatonin [Re: Clob]
    #23789812 - 10/31/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Freebasing means to turn an amine salt into its freebase amine via reaction with a suitable base... melatonin is an amide not an amine salt. you could react the melatonin with a base such as lye (baking soda not strong enough to remove the acetyl group) to form the methoxy trypatamine and then react that with acetone and a reducing agent to form foxy methoxy (#37 in TiHKAL called 5-MeO-DIPT or five methoxy diisopropyl tryptamine) and have yourself a real good time, but as for "freebasing", just heating on tinfoil (without a suitable base to hydrolyse acetyl gropup) is called smoking the shit....


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Re: Smoking melatonin [Re: pixelpopper]
    #23789824 - 10/31/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

almost all tryptamines can be very orally active, just add an alpha methyl group to block the MAO enzyme from destroying it on its way to the brain.....


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InvisibleBill_Oreilly
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Re: Smoking melatonin [Re: brandonlind]
    #23789861 - 10/31/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Guys dont smoke melatonin..this is elementary stuff here folks


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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