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Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween 2
#23789764 - 10/31/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news-and-views/news-features/chicago-school-cancels-christian-haunted-house-that-depicted-pulse-nightclub-massacre-for-halloween-20161031-gserhs.html
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Halloween is one of those interesting holidays that, despite not celebrating anything terribly offensive in itself, nevertheless inevitably drives people to do offensive things.
Most of the time, that offensiveness is limited to tone deaf outfit choices by clueless individuals who haven't got the memo about cultural appropriation.
But somehow, this year, a person calling himself a "licensed minister" used his entertainment company to organise a "Christian" haunted house event at a Chicago elementary school that reportedly depicted, among other things, the Pulse nightclub massacre.
According to Windy City Times, Tyrone Tappler Productions put a call out via Facebook in August for people to take part in recreating the scene: "Club Pulse, Dancers, Victims … CAGED PEOPLE/SCREAMERS, Extras needed trying to escape a cage! … SOUNDS INTERESTING? COME OUT THIS SATURDAY!!!"
Tickets for the event, scheduled to run on Saturday and Sunday nights, were selling on Eventbrite for $10-$20. Tappler tweeted that the school pulled out of the event on Friday evening.
While it beggars belief that anyone could think depicting this mass hate crime would be appropriate for Halloween, it gets worse: the event description suggests the experience was about making moral choices and "facing the consequences of your actions."
Visitors to 'The Room' would walk through 10 rooms, the description states, in which they were to "encounter individuals who will make choices. The choice is life or death; sin or salvation; heaven or hell."
The Pulse massacre wasn't the only off-colour scene set to be shown in the house. It was also reportedly set to depict a botched abortion, and the Charleston massacre in which nine black Christians were gunned down in a church by 21-year-old white man Dylan Roof.
While the Facebook page for Tyrone Tappler Productions has disappeared, his website says "Tyrone Tappler believes in reaching people in an unconventional way."
He's also quoted describing his writing process as channelling God's voice.
"I yielded to the voice of God, when he told me to write, my first inspirational stage play 'Help Lord, I'm Under Attack!' which depicts the life of Sandra and how she battles with the consequences of her wrong decisions."
Only God knows what consequences lie in store for Tappler after his decision to run a Halloween event that exploits some of the worst mass killings in US history.


How could anyone every think that was a good idea...
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: musiclover420]
#23789765 - 10/31/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol calm down SJW...
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: musiclover420]
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How could anyone every think that was a good idea...
think what was a good idea, schools allowing churches to do shit at the school?
that never ends well
hillary duff dressed as a pilgrim and appropriated your culture. be outraged!
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/hilary-duff-is-sorry-for-pilgrim-and-native-american-halloween-costumes-20161030-gse986.html
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"facing the consequences of your actions."
It was also reportedly set to depict a botched abortion, and the Charleston massacre in which nine black Christians were gunned down in a church by 21-year-old white man Dylan Roof.
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: Putin]
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I personally am not overly offended at this but its clearly incredibly insensitive at the very least...
Honestly I found the article entertaining more then anything but it's still pretty damn fucked up.
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: musiclover420]
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If the idea is to scare people, then subjecting them to things that are horrific in nature makes sense. The modern day boogeyman is a mass shooter/terrorist. I don't care for the religious spin on any of it, but I like the idea of pushing the envelope on what society deems appropriate to effectively shock and scare people like they probably haven't ever been before. I say it's pretty novel.
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"facing the consequences of your actions."
It was also reportedly set to depict a botched abortion, and the Charleston massacre in which nine black Christians were gunned down in a church by 21-year-old white man Dylan Roof.

what were the consequences he's referring to "suck a dick and get brutally murdered by a terrorist"?
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That's what I'm wondering. It's one thing to push the envelope of horror / scares but... I mean that's basically teaching kids that people deserve to be shot for being gay. And then reinacting it. I'll be honest, the fact that there seems to be so many people out there who think like this is pretty fucking scary.
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CookieCrumbs said: That's what I'm wondering. It's one thing to push the envelope of horror / scares but... I mean that's basically teaching kids that people deserve to be shot for being gay. And then reinacting it. I'll be honest, the fact that there seems to be so many people out there who think like this is pretty fucking scary.
Exactly and the fact a school was going for it just makes it even worse.
The whole "minister" spin on it seems really suspicious.
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: musiclover420]
#23790271 - 11/01/16 01:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Too bad it got canceled. Sounds like a smashing good time.
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: abltsandwich]
#23790277 - 11/01/16 01:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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abltsandwich said: If the idea is to scare people, then subjecting them to things that are horrific in nature makes sense. The modern day boogeyman is a mass shooter/terrorist. I don't care for the religious spin on any of it, but I like the idea of pushing the envelope on what society deems appropriate to effectively shock and scare people like they probably haven't ever been before. I say it's pretty novel.
I read your commentary and I went from 'hmmm' to 'wtf' then concluded 'valid framework'
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: greencrush420]
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From what I've read this type of thing is common in very religious areas of the US. Every October the local church will put on a "Hell house" which is basically a haunted house except it shows people going to hell. A few years ago I saw a documentary about it. By the end of the experience they try to get the attendees to convert to Christianity.
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: musiclover420] 1
#23790332 - 11/01/16 02:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Now thats a haunted house!.. Take notes people..
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23790360 - 11/01/16 02:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Putin said: Lol calm down SJW...
don't make me excoriate you. he's pointing out something that is obviously wrong. i don't see him getting all "SJW" on anyone.
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How could anyone every think that was a good idea...
think what was a good idea, schools allowing churches to do shit at the school?
what? so it's a bad idea to allow that? so you agree with OP then?
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greencrush420 said: Too bad it got canceled. Sounds like a smashing good time.
not really. sends a very anti-life message to kids. i think we need less nihilists these days.
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novel, yes. scary, yes, great scarefest; if only it didn't have the religious spin, telling them "convert, or be gay and damned to hell!" which let's face it, that IS the message the church wants to send, in this case. otherwise they wouldn't have factored anything "gay" into it at all, cause gay is bad, remember.
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: musiclover420]
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: Asante]
#23790486 - 11/01/16 05:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Um this is Chicago guys pretty sure it's like a warzone where people get like chopped up n shit all the time. HOW are gonna scare little it's like that? THIS is 2016 get over it and stop being pussies
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23790536 - 11/01/16 07:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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How could anyone every think that was a good idea...
think what was a good idea, schools allowing churches to do shit at the school?
what? so it's a bad idea to allow that? so you agree with OP then?
well, let's see. the supreme court has ruled many times that schools cannot lead kids in prayer, they cant push religious beliefs and cannot pair themselves with religious organizations
of course when I was a kid and having to attend church, the church I attended referred to halloween as the devil's night and encouraged us not to participate in the satanic rituals of dressing up like demons and other characters for the sake of collecting free candy and now we have these churches today that are passing out candy, hosting costume contests and obviously now trying to depict your soul being taken by satan for what ever choices you make
so, is it a bad idea? no, it's great because now someone can file a lawsuit against the chicago school for violating the first amendment
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 2
#23790543 - 11/01/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: Um this is Chicago guys pretty sure it's like a warzone where people get like chopped up n shit all the time. HOW are gonna scare little it's like that? THIS is 2016 get over it and stop being pussies 
that's a lie and you know it. chicago has heavy restrictions and even outright bans on guns and so many laws in place that have eliminated the crime problems so this clearly cannot be true
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Omg u guys are blowing this all outta proportion I ink its jus 'Christian' cuz one guy mentioned the words heaven and he'll on twitter or some fuck and everyone shit their pants over it
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Facing the consequences of your actions 
You thought you could go to church like white people ? Face the consequences of your actions black people! What did you think would happen?!

It's the consequences of the murderers actions they are facing, not the consequences or their own . Obviously.
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: greencrush420]
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Just in case you were wondering. Chicago leads the nation in mass shootings and deaths. Their gun laws have made it worse, not better.
no, that has to be a lie, the democrats keep telling us that if they take away our guns then we will all be safer, that if the law abiding citizens dont have guns then there is no way a bad guy will want to shoot us because they will also turn in their guns
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 1
#23790881 - 11/01/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: Omg u guys are blowing this all outta proportion I ink its jus 'Christian' cuz one guy mentioned the words heaven and he'll on twitter or some fuck and everyone shit their pants over it
I dunno if you're being sarcastic but reinacting a shooting that actually happened is thin ice to begin with. Next they'll want to do Sandy Hook. Which is super appropriate to scare the shit out of kids in an elementary school.
But then the people running it also choose to make it as an example to show kids what happens to sinners. Do you really not think that's fucked up? Just a little?
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23790913 - 11/01/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah it's fucked up, but we should let the fools (free market) who want to spend $20 on a ticket decide whether the show goes on or not.
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: qman]
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Isn't that basically what happened?
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23790936 - 11/01/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I mean not really mass shootings happen all the time now and this is the world were meant to raise kids in. I mean its a haunted house it's meant to be scarey n spooky n fucked up. I mean you guys jus assumed that this was some kinda hardcore Christian shit I mean none of u went thru the thing it coulda had a really positive kid friendly message about being vigilant of gun violence or using safe sex practices.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: I mean not really mass shootings happen all the time now and this is the world were meant to raise kids in. I mean its a haunted house it's meant to be scarey n spooky n fucked up. I mean you guys jus assumed that this was some kinda hardcore Christian shit I mean none of u went thru the thing it coulda had a really positive kid friendly message about being vigilant of gun violence or using safe sex practices.
No one "assumed" it was a hardcore christian fundamentalist event, its portrayed that way. Did you read the article?
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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True, but if that's not the case then the article was twisted to make it sound like hardcore Christian shit was going on.
I suppose context is really important. Both in the story and in the haunted house. They could have done a shooting stunt without basing it on an actual event where people actually died and, of all these shootings that happen all the time now, coincidentally choose the one actually event where people actually died happened to almost entirely be gay men. Which Christian organizations are known to often openly oppose.
I would have been okay if they had some anonymous masked bad guy in some building pretended to shoot some random people. It is the context they chose that I think is fucked up.
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: CookieCrumbs]
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Honestly it sounds more like a bad joke set to scam Christians more then anything. I doubt the guy who set it up was a "minister" like claimed...
They probably just went with the christian theme becouse they figured they could get away with more then sell tickets to stupid conservatives to bring their kids.
That is my take on it anyways.
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: musiclover420]
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I mean this is scarey and messed up to to me but only because it's a dangerously slippery slope. I mean its the kinda mentality why kkids don't play dodge ball anymore. Parents today wanna nerf everything. Omg don't mention current events to the child. Wouldnt want kids getting scared inside a spook house omfg!
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: musiclover420]
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I doubt that. But I'll admit something does sound... Off. I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't get the full story. That rarely happens in journalism these days.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: I mean this is scarey and messed up to to me but only because it's a dangerously slippery slope. I mean its the kinda mentality why kkids don't play dodge ball anymore. Parents today wanna nerf everything. Omg don't mention current events to the child. Wouldnt want kids getting scared inside a spook house omfg!
This is a bit different than letting your 10 year old ride their bike down a block by themselves. I do believe kids should be aware of what's happening in the world but again reenacting it for them? That has never been okay. Least not that I've ever heard of.
I've not heard of a haunted house that was designed to reenact the holocaust and gas chambers while implying the jews got it for not believing in Jesus.
You're obviously not getting that it's not about it being scary. It's about it being incredibly disrespectful and normalizing tragedy (and could be interpreted as justifying it) and (it sounds like) teaching children awful morals.
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: CookieCrumbs]
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I didn't see anything in the article about refunds even though it sounded like it was being canceled and the person who set it up jumped ship.
The article says his facebook is down and his site just has some weird message about god or something.
It also doesn't mention how many tickets may have already been sold however so who knows.
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: CookieCrumbs]
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This has obv been blown outta proportion by using out of context buzzwords in a sumbiminally ordered artical titles so people will lose their minds have a small stroke and instantly click on it and procede to blab about it across the internet. We're talking like a potential virtual milliondy dollars in clicks. The fact that the media have so easily spun this and it's evoked such a powerful stir of emotions only speaks to playwright tyrons absolute genius in his conception of this reimaging of the pulse tragedy.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: This has obv been taken blown outta proportion by using out of context buzzwords in a sumbiminally orders artical title so people will lose their minds have a small stroke and instantly click on it and procede to blab about it across the internet. We're talking like a potential virtual milliondy dollars in clicks. The fact that the media have so easily spun this and it's evoked such a powerful stir of emotions only speaks to playwright tyrons absolute genius in his conception of this reimaging of the pulse tragedy.
Why is it that no matter how blatantly fucked up and wrong something is, someone always has to play devil's advocate?
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Re: Chicago school cancels Christian haunted house that depicted Pulse nightclub massacre for Halloween [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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I'd normally agree with you Chief. But I just don't see what you have to build your opinion on other than it being a common problem. And again I'm sure this is not the full story. Or an exaggeration. But I don't see how you could have an article that names a very specific shooting and not have it portrayed in some manner if not overtly referenced.
Yes it's sensationalized, as all media is these days, but that doesn't mean the core of it is untrue.
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