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How difficult would it be to request spores from a college?
    #23789547 - 10/31/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Records show that Dr. Stephen Pollock banked an early generation sample of at least one of his strains a a technical college in Mexico.
Does anyone know how difficult (or feasible) it would be to request a "sample"?


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23789570 - 10/31/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:callingbullshit:


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: mushboy]
    #23789597 - 10/31/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Some of these threads..


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23789657 - 10/31/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:horly:


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: amidogen]
    #23789668 - 10/31/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:uhno:

these responses could go for page after page.


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: mushboy]
    #23789942 - 10/31/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sure it will be simple, if you have "Dr." in front of your name, letters after your name, and maybe some published papers on mycology as well as shiny Biology department letterhead.

Otherwise, your best bet is to find a grad student with (arguably) loose morals. Shouldn't be *that* hard.


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Kryptos]
    #23789998 - 10/31/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Kryptos said:
I'm sure it will be simple, if you have "Dr." in front of your name, letters after your name, and maybe some published papers on mycology as well as shiny Biology department letterhead.

Otherwise, your best bet is to find a grad student with (arguably) loose morals. Shouldn't be *that* hard.




I figured I could make some letterhead at Kinko's, or find someone to request it.

I'm asking mostly if anyone if familiar with the process- is it routine, like an interlibrbary loan network type thing,  or is it like asking for a peek at the Holy Grail? 


Serious answers only !!!  :thanx:


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Anyone have pix of his Shroommobile RV??

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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23790093 - 10/31/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You shouldn't do this for a whole host of reasons. If you really want it done, ask Alan Rockefeller to try it. He would both be allowed access if any such thing exists, and he'd know how to properly handle it.


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: nooneman] * 2
    #23790095 - 10/31/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I wonder how difficult it would be to request cocaine from an evidence locker. I could maybe make some police letterhead and get a fake badge. . .It's probably pretty routine. What could go wrong :shrug:


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23790097 - 10/31/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:llamastare:


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23790102 - 10/31/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

"Dear police station,

We desperately need all of the cocaine from your police evidence locker. We need it to catch a criminal. Please deliver it to 444 B Street ASAP.

Sincerely,
The Police"


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: nooneman]
    #23790106 - 10/31/16 10:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Seems legit ^


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: van hatton]
    #23790189 - 10/31/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Fuck the coke i want the meth and dirty syringes


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23790198 - 10/31/16 11:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Kryptos said:
I'm sure it will be simple, if you have "Dr." in front of your name, letters after your name, and maybe some published papers on mycology as well as shiny Biology department letterhead.

Otherwise, your best bet is to find a grad student with (arguably) loose morals. Shouldn't be *that* hard.




I figured I could make some letterhead at Kinko's, or find someone to request it.

I'm asking mostly if anyone if familiar with the process- is it routine, like an interlibrbary loan network type thing,  or is it like asking for a peek at the Holy Grail? 


Serious answers only !!!  :thanx:




As someone who works at a lab and regularly shares and receives samples, fake letterhead will NEVER work. Every contact is documented, relationships are developed and verified before anything goes out, and a catalog of these exchanges is even supplied to the govt. by colleges in an effort to demonstrate their public impact. This is a serious answer but a naive inquiry.


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23790359 - 11/01/16 02:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You have to go there (mexico) and ask him face to face.


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23791008 - 11/01/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I wonder how difficult it would be to request cocaine from an evidence locker. I could maybe make some police letterhead and get a fake badge. . .It's probably pretty routine. What could go wrong :shrug:




If you're in South Texas, near Mexico... yeah... that's pretty routine.


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Anyone have pix of his Shroommobile RV??

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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #23791009 - 11/01/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You have to go there (mexico) and ask him face to face.




He's dead, Jim. :sad:


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: nooneman]
    #23791018 - 11/01/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You shouldn't do this for a whole host of reasons. If you really want it done, ask Alan Rockefeller to try it. He would both be allowed access if any such thing exists, and he'd know how to properly handle it.




At last,a ray of sunshine and decency! Thank you my good man, I'll see if Mr. R is amiable to my proposal.

Shouldn't be anything illegal about a spore request.


This is serious sciencey stuff people!!!

And you made it into a mockery!! A mockery with bad gifs at that!!!


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Anyone have pix of his Shroommobile RV??

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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23791023 - 11/01/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:youjelly:  :gayfish:


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: irequirechocolate]
    #23791036 - 11/01/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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irequirechocolate said:
Quote:

Spore Ninja said:
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Kryptos said:
I'm sure it will be simple, if you have "Dr." in front of your name, letters after your name, and maybe some published papers on mycology as well as shiny Biology department letterhead.

Otherwise, your best bet is to find a grad student with (arguably) loose morals. Shouldn't be *that* hard.




I figured I could make some letterhead at Kinko's, or find someone to request it.

I'm asking mostly if anyone if familiar with the process- is it routine, like an interlibrbary loan network type thing,  or is it like asking for a peek at the Holy Grail? 


Serious answers only !!!  :thanx:




As someone who works at a lab and regularly shares and receives samples, fake letterhead will NEVER work. Every contact is documented, relationships are developed and verified before anything goes out, and a catalog of these exchanges is even supplied to the govt. by colleges in an effort to demonstrate their public impact. This is a serious answer but a naive inquiry.



Thanks for the info and reply IRC.:thumbup:
Did I mention M E X I C O???

Do you ever deal with spores of any kind?
I'm genuinely curious if it's just 1 old dusty print stuck in a shoe box somewhere, or if it's actively managed and regenerated.

In all seriousness, I realized it's a bit of an oddball post, but I'm on a quest for genetics. If it meant trip down to Mexico, I'd be all for it.



Maybe I should hire a team of ninjas to break in Mission Impossible style...


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Anyone have pix of his Shroommobile RV??

PSA: Protonmail offers free, encrypted email hosted in privacy loving Switzerland.
Red Phone / Signal offer free encrypted phone calls and texting between users.

All of these programs are available free for PC and Android or apple and are available in the respective stores or online by googling the names.
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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: mushboy]
    #23791061 - 11/01/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

mushboy said:
:youjelly:  :gayfish:




Are those from Overgrow??


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Anyone have pix of his Shroommobile RV??

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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23791075 - 11/01/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

or order spores and a microscope from a vendor?

or falsify documents to obtain spores that turn into federal pound you in the ass prison time felony. your call.


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: mushboy]
    #23791140 - 11/01/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How difficult is it to request decent threads?


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23791330 - 11/01/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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How difficult is it to request decent threads?




Probably as difficult as reviving Dr. Pollock's 35 year old spores. . .


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: mushboy]
    #23793303 - 11/01/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
How difficult is it to request decent threads?



Quote:

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or order spores and a microscope from a vendor?

or falsify documents to obtain spores that turn into federal pound you in the ass prison time felony. your call.




How would that solve my dilemma at all?

There's a hilarious amount of overreaction and sand vag in this thread.

PMITAP for spores? Do you know what site you're on??


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23793318 - 11/01/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Do you know what board you are on? This is a cultivation board. You got about as much chance of reviving those 30 year old spores as I do of cloning dinosaurs in my basement. Never mind uttering forged documents to obtain them in the first place. Shit like this thread is so far off topic it's barely worth mocking.


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23793320 - 11/01/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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How difficult is it to request decent threads?



I'm a man on a mission, sorry if I offended your delicate sensibilities.  Besides- you're a pretty smart guy, don't you have any practical input?

Quote:

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Probably as difficult as reviving Dr. Pollock's 35 year old spores. . .




BUUURN! :sunny:I don't necessarily expect to find 30 year old spores, but something in the 15-20 year range has been done before.
What's so far fetched about that?


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23793324 - 11/01/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:justno:

I'll send you some spores...

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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23793326 - 11/01/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

15 year range was done by RR with lab grade snake venom and even then it barely worked. He literally got one spore to germinate.


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23793342 - 11/01/16 10:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23793351 - 11/01/16 10:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Do you know what board you are on? This is a cultivation board. You got about as much chance of reviving those 30 year old spores as I do of cloning dinosaurs in my basement. Never mind uttering forged documents to obtain them in the first place. Shit like this thread is so far off topic it's barely worth mocking.




I started reading here in 2009, when did you join? :smile:
I know tone can be hard to convey in text, so I fear some may has misunderstood my intent.

I asked a legitimate question.
I expected -and received- some ribbing and I played along with some of it.
But I'm interested in old school genetics, and this is something I need ed to cross off my list. 

I'm also trying decipher the M Romero / PF relationship to see where it leads. The 'original' MR genetics may indeed be lost, but I still want to follow the trail myself. And in some cases,I may also feel connected to certain varieties.

I used to crop bulk in tubs and buckets, but now I'm doing it on a much smaller scale, and I'm having fun tracking down some of the more obscure and exotic varieties now.

BTW - you've made some nice contributions to the website. Thank you.


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Anyone have pix of his Shroommobile RV??

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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23793368 - 11/01/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Honestly you probably would have a better chance at walking in and stealing the shit then them sending it to you ... the fact you wanna try to get some old genetics back to life is awesome but unrealistic just like we could never make contam free myc


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23793369 - 11/01/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:splooge:

This thread is ridiculous.

Sorry OP :shrug:

If you've been reading since 2009 you would know that this would have sort of been a fail thread...


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: amidogen]
    #23793372 - 11/01/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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or falsify documents to obtain spores that turn into federal pound you in the ass prison time felony. your call.



Yes. Using fake or falsified federal documents will land you in prison.

Sure. Just write them up and ask for a sample, if one exists.

You do realize that people who preserve things for historical purposes kinda sorta frown upon chopping off a piece and giving it away to anyone who writes and asks for one, yes?

I'm genuinely curious to see whether they respond, and if so, what they say if you make a completely honest request.

I'm feeling like conspiracy theories today, so I vote for the strain has been revived and tump's government grant is actually to grow it out as a genetically engineered super strain that the government can legalize and commercialize to make Hillary Clinton richer, but due to the classified nature of the mission, they'll claim the strain never existed.

There I said it. Now the truth is out :awesketch:

Good luck though :thumbup:

I don't believe they've tried germinating any prints, and if anything is still around, it's the originals. So, what's your plan for germinating 35 year old spores, assuming they give them to you? I feel like you should have a really solid plan for using a piece of history, especially if RR could hardly make younger spores work.

...you do have a plan, right?




Thanks, i think...

Much of those posts were in jest. I guess I could have phrased it a little differently, but I see nothing wrong with inquiring how or if certain items are available for legitimate study.

If indeed the spores in question were languishing in a poor environment for 30 years- almost any attempt at restoration would be an improvement.

I read about using the rattlesnake venom in making a cross/hybrid, but I don't recall anything about it being used to revive old spores. Got anything more on that?
I'm mostly referring to the revival of the Syzrgy spores of Mckenna's. Is there a backstory on that here too?
I'd love to read the behind the scenes stuff... I just read the write up Workman did on the ATL #7 development. 
It's interesting how much "new" information and interest there's been about some of these older strains in the last 5 years.


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23793376 - 11/01/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Look man I understand the allure of finding old lineages. But you need to temper that with a dose of reality. Fact is that the very college in possession of those spores is probably not equipped to revive them. We see people with pie in the sky ideas here daily. It's a laudible idea but about as plausible as solving child poverty or ending world hunger.

You want to risk it, hell no one here can stop you. You might even get lucky. But it's something no one here will endorse simply because most people plan to commit felonies and don't need the scrutiny. So it's your risk to take. If you go for it I wish you well. But I'm not hopeful.


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Re: How difficult would it be to request spores from a college? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23793388 - 11/01/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

RR had a thread in advanced mycology on the Redboy revival but in a nutshell he did this.


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Making a syringe has zero chance of success, as does making LC.

I doubt seriously the spores are still alive, since it's probably not acid free paper they're sitting on.

Peroxide will kill even fresh spores, so it's not of any use.

Use regular or antibiotic agar and ONLY swipe spores with an inoculating loop.  Scraping spores with a knife will rip them to shreds.  I'd cut the print into twenty sections and put the other 19 up until you've exhausted everything on the first one, and then work your way through them one at a time.

The 20 year old redboy spores never germinated.  As a last result, I isolated monokaryons of PR and allowed a few of those in separate dishes to crawl across the last of my redboy spores, which were soaked in rattlesnake venom to destroy the cell walls.  When the PR monokaryons crawled across the venom weakened spores, one of them was able to get a pairing from the DNA present, and the result was a PR/Redboy cross.  It was the best I could do, and the result wasn't nearly as red as the original, as can be seen below.
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