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The dmt electricity headrush
#23789462 - 10/31/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have been researching all things dmt for the past 5 or so years. I am wondering if anyone else has experienced this feeling, because after all of the trip reports I have read, I have never come across the feeling that I experienced:
After my second hit, I felt like my head, or brain, actually felt like it was getting electrocuted...I heard these strange noises, like popping, but it felt like things were being "turned on" in my head. It is hard to explain, really, kind of like I got an electrical shock from an outlet, but in my brain. The noises I cannot explain, but it was the oddest feeling! Has anyone else ever experienced this? Also had a taste in my head....yes, I said head, that is not a typo, my brain actually felt like it was tasting or sensing something like when you chew on aluminum foil...weird.
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Jenjens]
#23789472 - 10/31/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Certainly it is something similar zapping us
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Does]
#23790159 - 10/31/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, the crackling popping sound, or the sound of a wave coming at you can happen. A vaped DMT breakthrough literally comes at you like a physical, palpable thing, it is an electric firestorm of light & color that you see and hear rushing toward you from a pinprick in the center of your vision, expanding to the full field of sight and then you're just gone and have become utterly consumed by the storm and become one with it. I've also heard a strange metallic voice hissing "yassssss," like the divine "yes" as the experience unfolds out of space and grows exponentially. If you looked at an MRI of your brain on DMT the entire thing would be lighting up like crazy, so it really is a bit of an electrical storm raging through your mind as the signals are lighting up every synapse in your brain like a Christmas tree. The electromagnetic field of your brain probably actually increases enough to register on eeg etc. Would be interesting to see scientists study just how much juice is put out from a breakthrough.
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A similar phenomenon is experienced by people taking SSRIs, food for thought.
I have felt the same thing while coming down from mushrooms once.
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Bozko]
#23790304 - 11/01/16 01:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It happens all the time
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Gaspard]
#23791457 - 11/01/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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VERY interesting! Thanks for the responses. It all makes sense now!
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Jenjens]
#23791504 - 11/01/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Exploding head syndrome? Never has happened to me
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Eclipse3130] 1
#23791617 - 11/01/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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P.Zappatecorum said: ....If you looked at an MRI of your brain on DMT the entire thing would be lighting up like crazy, so it really is a bit of an electrical storm raging through your mind as the signals are lighting up every synapse in your brain like a Christmas tree. The electromagnetic field of your brain probably actually increases enough to register on eeg etc. Would be interesting to see scientists study just how much juice is put out from a breakthrough.
That's a common misconception....
From the studies done with mushrooms and LSD in recent times....it shows that psychedelics actually cause a reduction/decrease in activity across the entire brain, psychedelics do not cause the brain to "light up" with activity. A correlation has been shown between the more brain activity decreased, the more intense/vivid the trip/effects were.
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Psychedelic drugs have a long history of use in healing ceremonies, but despite renewed interest in their therapeutic potential, we continue to know very little about how they work in the brain. Here we used psilocybin, a classic psychedelic found in magic mushrooms, and a task-free functional MRI (fMRI) protocol designed to capture the transition from normal waking consciousness to the psychedelic state. Arterial spin labeling perfusion and blood-oxygen level-dependent (BOLD) fMRI were used to map cerebral blood flow and changes in venous oxygenation before and after intravenous infusions of placebo and psilocybin. Fifteen healthy volunteers were scanned with arterial spin labeling and a separate 15 with BOLD. As predicted, profound changes in consciousness were observed after psilocybin, but surprisingly, only decreases in cerebral blood flow and BOLD signal were seen, and these were maximal in hub regions, such as the thalamus and anterior and posterior cingulate cortex (ACC and PCC). Decreased activity in the ACC/medial prefrontal cortex (mPFC) was a consistent finding and the magnitude of this decrease predicted the intensity of the subjective effects. Based on these results, a seed-based pharmaco-physiological interaction/functional connectivity analysis was performed using a medial prefrontal seed. Psilocybin caused a significant decrease in the positive coupling between the mPFC and PCC. These results strongly imply that the subjective effects of psychedelic drugs are caused by decreased activity and connectivity in the brain's key connector hubs, enabling a state of unconstrained cognition.
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despite the flood of sensory imagery, the changing sense of time, space, color and scenes, the brain activity in the default mode network, DMN, related to self-identity, was dramatically reduced. This study showed that blood flow was reduced in the thalamus (the center of sensory input), as well as centers involved with introspection, the medial prefrontal cortex (mPFC), and the posterior cingulate cortex PCC. The stronger the subjective experience, the more was the reduction.
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The findings are consistent with Aldous Huxley’s idea that normal consciousness acts like a “reducing valve” that actually constrains how much information a person normally takes in, so that one is not overwhelmed by chaotic stimuli. Therefore, the apparent “mind-expanding” effect of psychedelic drugs is due to a relaxation of this constraining effect. The reduced activity of the brains connector hubs might permit an “unconstrained style of cognition” producing psychedelic effects
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Eclipse3130 said: Exploding head syndrome? Never has happened to me
Exploding head syndrome is something different than what the OP is talking about.
I've experienced exploding head syndrome a few times (it's pretty bizarre/startling), and it's much different than the sounds/sensations associated with a DMT breakthrough. EHS usually occurs as one is drifting off into sleep, or waking up out of their sleep/rem cycle.
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: openmind]
#23791644 - 11/01/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh, I thought exploding head syndrome was a joke from eclipse130....Now I need to look it up, regardless.
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Jenjens]
#23791830 - 11/01/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've experienced brain zaps accompanied by a weird sound a few times with Mimosa and Rue. Sometimes i like it, other times it just feels weird or freaky.
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Sabnock]
#23792185 - 11/01/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes! Brain zaps is the perfect wording I was I was looking for. Right at the tip of my tongue.
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Jenjens]
#23792236 - 11/01/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The zaps are very common for me. I freaked out the first time I got em because I was trying out of body meditation(sober). On the right nights I get one from weed. I ALWAYS get them with both mushrooms and LSD so I really don't know. Exploding head (crazy explosion sounds from around you and above you) happen to me on mushrooms and doing the same meditation. I don't know how or why these things happen but I just go with em and they're not unpleasant.
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Jenjens]
#23792281 - 11/01/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jenjens said:
After my second hit, I felt like my head, or brain, actually felt like it was getting electrocuted...I heard these strange noises, like popping, but it felt like things were being "turned on" in my head. It is hard to explain, really, kind of like I got an electrical shock from an outlet, but in my brain. The noises I cannot explain, but it was the oddest feeling!
The tingle moves in first, then a slight buzzing vibrating sound that amplifies into a kinda 'warped electrical waveform' sound that goes from low to more and more intense till it feels like its travelling through your veins. All in the matter of a second or so. I've worked a long time trying to put thsee weird feelings into words lol.
Your description reminds me EXACTLY of my first real mushroom trip.
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: AstralAndrew]
#23793520 - 11/02/16 12:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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AstralAndrew said: The zaps are very common for me. I freaked out the first time I got em because I was trying out of body meditation(sober). On the right nights I get one from weed. I ALWAYS get them with both mushrooms and LSD so I really don't know. Exploding head (crazy explosion sounds from around you and above you) happen to me on mushrooms and doing the same meditation. I don't know how or why these things happen but I just go with em and they're not unpleasant.
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After my second hit, I felt like my head, or brain, actually felt like it was getting electrocuted...I heard these strange noises, like popping, but it felt like things were being "turned on" in my head. It is hard to explain, really, kind of like I got an electrical shock from an outlet, but in my brain. The noises I cannot explain, but it was the oddest feeling!
The tingle moves in first, then a slight buzzing vibrating sound that amplifies into a kinda 'warped electrical waveform' sound that goes from low to more and more intense till it feels like its travelling through your veins. All in the matter of a second or so. I've worked a long time trying to put thsee weird feelings into words lol.
Your description reminds me EXACTLY of my first real mushroom trip.
Anytime something interesting is going to happen I get zaps on lsd/mush. That's when the trip gets very real and strange shit happens. With DMT my spine and neck feels like there's constantly electrical movement.
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Jenjens] 1
#23793713 - 11/02/16 05:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jenjens said: I have been researching all things dmt for the past 5 or so years. I am wondering if anyone else has experienced this feeling, because after all of the trip reports I have read, I have never come across the feeling that I experienced:
After my second hit, I felt like my head, or brain, actually felt like it was getting electrocuted...I heard these strange noises, like popping, but it felt like things were being "turned on" in my head. It is hard to explain, really, kind of like I got an electrical shock from an outlet, but in my brain. The noises I cannot explain, but it was the oddest feeling! Has anyone else ever experienced this? Also had a taste in my head....yes, I said head, that is not a typo, my brain actually felt like it was tasting or sensing something like when you chew on aluminum foil...weird.
I get this humming noise while my consciousness "swirls" out of being while exiting my head area. Thats the first hit and first feeling of separation i get
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#23793880 - 11/02/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think that means ur brain is getting fried! No going back now  Lol jk. I had similar things happen to me
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Trippy Kitty]
#23794326 - 11/02/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trippy Kitty said: I think that means ur brain is getting fried! No going back now  Lol jk. I had similar things happen to me
Well it happens at the 1st hit everytime like clockwork
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#23794726 - 11/02/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I experience the classic "acid twitch" I can feel my neck jolt/jerk a few times throught the days/week from LSD use as a side effect, also in my eyes sometimes, I've tripped on mushrooms quite a few times and hopefully I never experience those zaps you guys speak of they don't sound fun 
Now I know why they test for HTR (head twitch response) in animals with LSD, but some people never get this side effect.
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: openmind]
#23796375 - 11/02/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's a common misconception....
From the studies done with mushrooms and LSD in recent times....it shows that psychedelics actually cause a reduction/decrease in activity across the entire brain, psychedelics do not cause the brain to "light up" with activity. A correlation has been shown between the more brain activity decreased, the more intense/vivid the trip/effects were.
So you know better than the MRI study at the Department of Medicine at Imperial?
 Overall brain activity/communication between areas of the brain is increased, however activity in parts of the front brain, which govern personality and ego, is decreased, which is why you get ego death at higher doses. Maybe mushrooms shut down more of the brain, but LSD at least lights you up.
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I actually participated in a paid research study as a lab rat wherein they shocked the shit out of my head and brain with electrodes and at the end asked for a scale of one to ten how much it hurt, and I said eight, almost nine if it went on for a little bit longer. Not sure if that has anything to do with it but I think I may know the general sensation you speak of.
I've also heard stories of people smoking it continuously so where their head feels more hollow within the skull, and you can move it around and sort of feel your brain shake within. But, that effect goes away with the recovery period.
Otherwise there may be a lingering feeling of an extreme pleasure or appreciation in the brain. Like something sweet, as if candy. People probably aren't meant to have that, naturally. The only way to have more of that besides doing the neurotransmitter is probably death, or dying.
Theories aside I've heard that you know when you're blasting off once your vision gets dark. You know because it seems so familiar. There are sounds too, but it sounds like a kind of humming as if machinery is whirring. It's like you're in an alien spaceship or something. Then, there's also Mexican or Aztec like imagery for some reason, which comes across as alien. Sounds interesting. II hear that kind of head throbbing can be appealing. Wonder if there are other sorts of natural ways to induce it.
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That's a common misconception....
From the studies done with mushrooms and LSD in recent times....it shows that psychedelics actually cause a reduction/decrease in activity across the entire brain, psychedelics do not cause the brain to "light up" with activity. A correlation has been shown between the more brain activity decreased, the more intense/vivid the trip/effects were.
So you know better than the MRI study at the Department of Medicine at Imperial?
 Overall brain activity/communication between areas of the brain is increased, however activity in parts of the front brain, which govern personality and ego, is decreased, which is why you get ego death at higher doses. Maybe mushrooms shut down more of the brain, but LSD at least lights you up.
MRI and fMRI studies can be notoriously misleading, and this study in particular has been called into question before.
The LSD Study, you are being subtly deceived http://www.bernardokastrup.com/2016/04/the-lsd-study-youre-being-subtly.html
Dead Salmon highlights risk of Red Herrings https://www.wired.com/2009/09/fmrisalmon/
btw, is your cactus seedling tek still up somewhere?
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Bozko]
#23797629 - 11/03/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not sure if there has been any MRI research while on DMT. You can't really say the LSD studies are the same or similar. Although, on long term ayahuasca there have been some changes to certain brain size areas related to personality or ego. Also, most psychedelics probably do stimulate the locus coeruleus, which is related to feelings of things being one, or all connected, like in a universal consciousness field.
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Bozko] 1
#23797797 - 11/03/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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MRI and fMRI studies can be notoriously misleading, and this study in particular has been called into question before.
The LSD Study, you are being subtly deceived http://www.bernardokastrup.com/2016/04/the-lsd-study-youre-being-subtly.html
I was going to post that same exact link.....
http://www.bernardokastrup.com/2016/04/the-lsd-study-youre-being-subtly.html
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: openmind]
#23798614 - 11/03/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh gosh! Hope you got paid some good money for that! Regarding the "blast off" after my last hit, I did indeed "go blind" and all I saw were the patterns everywhere. Did that mean that I actually got to the highest point? I wasnt sure what level that was. It was my third hit, but also it was my first time. Just curious.
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Re: The dmt electricity headrush [Re: Bozko]
#23802048 - 11/04/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bozko said: btw, is your cactus seedling tek still up somewhere?
Very intersting, thanks for the clarification. Leave it to the mainstream media to fuck up science reporting. 
 I got super paranoid in spring when I had the cops all up in my business and deleted a whole bunch shit so I nuked my seedling tek. I will do another one next time I do a big sowing. If you have any quesitons me. I have dialed things in even more and am happier with the results I'm getting with this batch than the last. The moral of the story is the cheap, powdered coir is good for germination but terrible for long term survival of the seedlings. It rots out the roots.
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