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Some findings from Finland today
#23789096 - 10/31/16 04:08 PM (8 years, 11 days ago) |
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Okay, I'm new here, but trying to follow the rules the best I can.
These were found from a golf course today. They were actually frozen, but it was not under zero degrees celsius during the day. I think there are at least two species. I will post close-ups later! This was the confusing part, and it would be great, if someone could teach me the differences...
Habitat: There were no trees nearby, as it was golf course. It was growing from ground (on the grass), the ground being heavily fertilized wit some kind of dung, maybe chicken?
Location: Southern Finland
Gills: Almost all were darkish purple. Only the smallest ones on the corners were either dark or white, but had dark spores on the edges.
Stems: Depending on the species? Brown, but had white places. Somewaht confusing.
Spores: Didn't do it properly, but my fingers got black already, so I think all of them have dark to black spores.
Caps: Confusing stuff! How many different species, or is it just variation?
Scent: Hard to tell, not very distinct.
Bruises: So far, none, unfortunately. I would still like to know, which species these could be.
The ones at the left upper corner and up center got dry much faster than the others, but they also seem to have pellicula. And all of them seem to have it.
Would be so great, if someone could help. My guess is, some of them could be either panaeolus cinctulus or foenisecii, but which. And what could be the others, the ones at the upper corner and up center.
Thanks!
Edited by from finland (10/31/16 04:11 PM)
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: from finland]
#23789104 - 10/31/16 04:10 PM (8 years, 11 days ago) |
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As soon as I get other pics uploaded, you will see more close-ups. I don't expect any answers before that, but I don't mind either...
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: from finland]
#23789288 - 10/31/16 05:17 PM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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Your collection looks interesting. You should separate species and take good, clear close-up shots of all features.
Looks mainly like a mix of Protostropharia and Deconica, although some might be Psilocybe.
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: Anglerfish]
#23790513 - 11/01/16 06:43 AM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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Okay, these pics were taken yesterday, so they are not perfect. However, these are the ones that can be found at the left upper corner and up center in the first pic, the ones which got dry (not really dry but meaning they were not moist) faster than the others.
One more confusing thing: Now that they all have gotten really dry, their caps ALL share the same color, which is quite beautiful golden bronze or something. This could maybe indicate that they were all same species after all, but I'm not sure. I also got nice spore prints of some of them, hard to say if there's a difference between them.
More pics to come.
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: from finland]
#23790533 - 11/01/16 07:04 AM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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The ones that looked a bit like panaeolus, but could be deconica? However, now dried, they look the same as the ones above. These were the ones down right and down center in the original picture.
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: from finland]
#23790551 - 11/01/16 07:17 AM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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The stems are also interesting, some are thinner than the others, but only some look different from the others...
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: from finland]
#23790577 - 11/01/16 07:43 AM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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These were the most peculiar ones. However, today they look the same as the others, only sizes of stems are confusing...
On these the stems are relatively thick, even though they are small size.
This one was just the most standout one. But see also the ones above, they turned out to be darker brown than the others as they got dry.
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Later today or tomorrow pics of sporeprints and about the variation of the dry ones. Cheers!
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: from finland]
#23790596 - 11/01/16 07:56 AM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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Were they in a mossy part?
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: Joie]
#23790649 - 11/01/16 08:26 AM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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Joie said: Were they in a mossy part?
As it was a golf course, I'd say not. It was next to the hole area, and some were growing on the hole area as well. Of course I could be wrong, and there could be moss among the grass. Actually I don't know about the golf course, I have thought that it's extremely well kept grass?
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: from finland]
#23790679 - 11/01/16 08:42 AM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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Golf courses have roughs and natural features and paths don't always stick to the playing area, but since I wasn't walking on the golf course you were on idk, just looking at the pictures of the assorted mushrooms trying to detect some clear features that suggest an ID. The pinkish weak stems put me in mind of not active and then for the cap I am thinking maybe Protostropharia but idk. If it was in moss that expanded my options a bit, maybe.
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: Joie]
#23791812 - 11/01/16 03:51 PM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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Joie said: The pinkish weak stems put me in mind of not active and then for the cap I am thinking maybe Protostropharia but idk. If it was in moss that expanded my options a bit, maybe.
Maybe the lighting is bad or there's something different in the screen, but there shouldn't be pink colour. Colours of stems were either yellowish brown to orange with some whiter parts, and some thin ones were more brownish.
I checked the bottoms of the stems once more, and even though one could find traces of grass, there were no traces of moss. However, I cannot be sure. It was dark there, and I assumed it's just grass.
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: from finland]
#23791906 - 11/01/16 04:16 PM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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Okay, the last pics. First, here are sporeprints from two:
The other seems a bit purplish while almost black, while the other is almost completely black, but I'd say it's still brown, though very dark brown. However, I'm not sure if there can be variation among the same species.
Finally, here is some variation. Some of the smaller ones are more brownish, one is almost black. Almost all resemble the "golden" ones seen here, big or small, only few were darker brownier ones.
So very confusing. I can still try to give more info based on these pics, if someone has some questions, which could lead to answers. Thanks anyway!
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: from finland]
#23791987 - 11/01/16 04:32 PM (8 years, 10 days ago) |
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So far the suggestions are Protostropharia, Deconica and Psilocybe fimetaria. These are also the most likely options, based on the info I have found here and elsewhere. But how can one tell the difference? And is there one or more species here in these pics?
Is there anything else I could do?
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: from finland]
#23794409 - 11/02/16 12:01 PM (8 years, 9 days ago) |
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My first thought was Stropharia semiglobata together with a few libs.
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: knarkkorven]
#23797411 - 11/03/16 12:01 PM (8 years, 8 days ago) |
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knarkkorven said: My first thought was Stropharia semiglobata together with a few libs.
Which ones do you think could be libs? The smaller darker brown ones with thin stems?
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: from finland]
#24637028 - 09/17/17 03:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Habitat: A new well kept grass area, where wild geese have been hanging out a while ago. Good manuring maybe?
Location: Southern Finland
Gills: Darkish brown
Stems: Creamy color to light brown
Spores: Didn't do it this time
Caps: As you can see from the pics, smallest one were light brown when most wet, otherwise that creamy color with dark edge, the nibble is clearly seen
Scent: -
Bruises: Clearly appearing when getting dry (some could be seen immediately, but only a couple, now it's everywhere), see the last pic
They were growing in small sparse groups. The weather has been somewhat rainy, something like +8 celsius during the night, +12-20 during the day, mostly +15 or so.
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Re: Some findings from Finland today [Re: from finland]
#24637042 - 09/17/17 04:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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All of them that I can see are Psilocybe semilanceata.
Cool to see them dried and fresh.
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