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GodlessPleb
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True Love Exists
#23787372 - 10/31/16 01:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Before any logicians say that love is a delusion I want you to know that I agree. Love is most commonly nothing more than a chemical and biological attraction to another human. True love however... exists. True love is more than the chemicals, it is the undying devotion to help another bloom. To help another become the best person you know they can become. It is daily choice that requires constant effort on both sides to flourish. There is a saying I heard that metaphorically represents it, "True love is the apple of Eden". You can reduce happiness to merely a chemical reaction, but does that mean it isn't real?
-------------------- Well, I know like Giordano of old, your God is too small. God is just a stepping stone to the universe within us all.
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beforethedawn
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Well not to digress but you seem to be hung up on some positivism.
Experience is all there is.
Positivistic notions are just imaginations that impress us. Concepts, words . . . all secondary to the fact you are feeling something.
It's based on the popular, and merely popular, idea that life has no teleology. Of course life has teleology, life is God at play, God wishes to celebrate.
These notions,
they're just part of sort of slow-moving game. Dangerous though, in that, if believed, can disempower.
-------------------- Hostile humankind Can't you see you're fucking blind?
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remake


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Life is not a game. Such a view point implies using actual other people who have separate ideas, dreams, hopes and aspirations to your own benefit. No one owes you shit. You're going to have to work for a better life. With your hands. It's not going to appear in front of your eyes. Life is not 'God' at play. Life consists of a bunch of dickbags acting like god and fucking around. Raping everyone and everything. Scraping at the past and waiting for a machine to pick up the shit. There is play. But this has nothing to do with the value or description of life or what our current reality is. Life is sacred.
People also identify the feelings other people give them, based on thoughts they form themselves, and use it against them.
Rape rape rape.
Yeah we're the same! I'm the SAME. I'M GOD. YEAH. FUCK YEAH. EVERYTHING. MINE MINE MINE. I'M AWESOME, YEAH.
FUCK THE FUTURE. IT'S ABOUT ME. IT'S ABOUT ME ME ME.
HE'S A DICK. HE'S NOT ACTING LIKE WHAT I'M THINKING HE SHOULD BE ACTING LIKE AAAAHHHH!!
I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I'M GIVING ALL THE RIGHT SIGNALS...PLAYING THE 'GAME'...HE MUST BE INSANE! HE MUST BE THE DEVIL! HE MUST BE GAY...NOT WANTING TO FUCK ME.
I'M SO HEALTHY AND SPIRITUAL. LOOK AT ALL MY THANGS. LOOK AT ALL MY BOOKS. ALL MY TITLES AND SHIT. YEAH, SO FUCKING HOLY! I DO YOGA! I READ THE NEWS. I READ THE BIBLE! LOOK AT MY IMAGE, BITCHES! I'M 'IN'.
Engage monocle..Well, young boy, if you meditate on your own mental cream you'll forget all about the starving children. Or, rather, do nothing, and tell everyone who's fault it is. Well, I must say, it's the Blacks...no the Hispanics...no the devil...no god...anyone but ME...
When I grow up I wanna be Buddah and fuck to the woods. See no evil. No evil. Right? Yeah, let's all be blind and shit! God forbid you follow those materialistic dreams. You are to be no one. You are not to be who you want to be.
If you don't look like a good person, you're not. Show me your history. I shall determine your future, you fucking slime! Doesn't matter who you're able to become. Doesn't matter what you do. It's what you look like, on paper, right? Yeah! Whooo!
Back and forth, this guy and that guy, fuck you, fuck this, yeah!
Love, under these circumstances, is of utmost rarity.
Funny thing you learn in insanity, the loss of actual humanity, the unconcern for others' physical and mental freedom above your own sensations. And the surface pretence most operate on and cherish. Playing the game of guilt and shame, whilst hiding behind a crafted mask. Inactive. Proudly so.
No depth. No authenticity. No romance.
The more we try to define life or the meaning behind it. The more we are raping it. It's here you're here, what now?
Edited by remake (10/31/16 06:52 AM)
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The Blind Ass
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Re: True Love Exists [Re: remake]
#23787495 - 10/31/16 03:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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rare, but true and real.
-------------------- Give me Liberty caps -or- give me Death caps
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GodlessPleb
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Quote:
The Blind Ass said: rare, but true and real.
I am lucky to have the experience of finding it. I just wanted all out there to know that it exists. God has nothing to do with it, I am an atheist.
-------------------- Well, I know like Giordano of old, your God is too small. God is just a stepping stone to the universe within us all.
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beforethedawn
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Re: True Love Exists [Re: remake]
#23789179 - 10/31/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
FranniePilgrim said: Life is not a game. Such a view point implies using actual other people who have separate ideas, dreams, hopes and aspirations to your own benefit. No one owes you shit. You're going to have to work for a better life. With your hands. It's not going to appear in front of your eyes. Life is not 'God' at play. Life consists of a bunch of dickbags acting like god and fucking around. Raping everyone and everything. Scraping at the past and waiting for a machine to pick up the shit. There is play. But this has nothing to do with the value or description of life or what our current reality is. Life is sacred.
People also identify the feelings other people give them, based on thoughts they form themselves, and use it against them.
Rape rape rape.
Yeah we're the same! I'm the SAME. I'M GOD. YEAH. FUCK YEAH. EVERYTHING. MINE MINE MINE. I'M AWESOME, YEAH.
FUCK THE FUTURE. IT'S ABOUT ME. IT'S ABOUT ME ME ME.
HE'S A DICK. HE'S NOT ACTING LIKE WHAT I'M THINKING HE SHOULD BE ACTING LIKE AAAAHHHH!!
I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I'M GIVING ALL THE RIGHT SIGNALS...PLAYING THE 'GAME'...HE MUST BE INSANE! HE MUST BE THE DEVIL! HE MUST BE GAY...NOT WANTING TO FUCK ME.
I'M SO HEALTHY AND SPIRITUAL. LOOK AT ALL MY THANGS. LOOK AT ALL MY BOOKS. ALL MY TITLES AND SHIT. YEAH, SO FUCKING HOLY! I DO YOGA! I READ THE NEWS. I READ THE BIBLE! LOOK AT MY IMAGE, BITCHES! I'M 'IN'.
Engage monocle..Well, young boy, if you meditate on your own mental cream you'll forget all about the starving children. Or, rather, do nothing, and tell everyone who's fault it is. Well, I must say, it's the Blacks...no the Hispanics...no the devil...no god...anyone but ME...
When I grow up I wanna be Buddah and fuck to the woods. See no evil. No evil. Right? Yeah, let's all be blind and shit! God forbid you follow those materialistic dreams. You are to be no one. You are not to be who you want to be.
If you don't look like a good person, you're not. Show me your history. I shall determine your future, you fucking slime! Doesn't matter who you're able to become. Doesn't matter what you do. It's what you look like, on paper, right? Yeah! Whooo!
Back and forth, this guy and that guy, fuck you, fuck this, yeah!
Love, under these circumstances, is of utmost rarity.
Funny thing you learn in insanity, the loss of actual humanity, the unconcern for others' physical and mental freedom above your own sensations. And the surface pretence most operate on and cherish. Playing the game of guilt and shame, whilst hiding behind a crafted mask. Inactive. Proudly so.
No depth. No authenticity. No romance.
The more we try to define life or the meaning behind it. The more we are raping it. It's here you're here, what now?
Very strong words, but based on the wrong perspective of what I'm saying?
"Your own self-realisation is the greatest service you can render the world."
The world is a consciousness field. If you realise God in yourself, it spreads into the field around you, generating positivity.
Others feed of it.
To let go of God and try to reform the world, "is like walking barefoot, it is much easier to wear shoes"
That is, without your own self-realisation, world-reform is impotent, and with your self-realisation there is no problem in sight, yet the field is enhanced.
What would you have me do?
-------------------- Hostile humankind Can't you see you're fucking blind?
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remake


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Other, actual people, associate with the image you are forming according to the belief that you are God. I believe you are seeing their masks.
Protect yourself, people do not always have good intentions. As much as you are thinking of yourself (although with good intentions towards them). They might be thinking more of themselves. And you might be sending yourself on some crazy guilt trip sooner or later.
But notice how they are being objectified though? They're doing the same to you, maybe?
I've felt what you have felt. And I've seen some crazy shit.
I'm really convinced of being human.
I'm not letting go of God. I believe in something greater which I'm choosing not to define exactly.
I'm not trying to reform the world though. I want to help where I can.
I'm letting go the belief of being the origin of everything myself. So...I don't know which is more egotistical...
I'm a pretty positive person though. And people are positive around me, but I'm not over analysing everything any more - concerning - the belief that I'm the creator of what I'm seeing. I think it's much more complicated than that...
Sorry for freaking out. I just think you're making a mistake.
Edited by remake (10/31/16 05:31 PM)
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phio


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Re: True Love Exists [Re: remake]
#23789527 - 10/31/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Love is understanding thus why it can be expressed in so many different degrees. As for true love ... How can you maintain true love without a fullness of truth and understanding?
More clearly, there are vary degrees of understanding and thus varying degrees of love. With increased degrees, one feels they are approaching a 'fullness' but an infinity lies far beyond the grasp of the finite.
That being said, enjoy the journey.
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beforethedawn
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Re: True Love Exists [Re: phio] 1
#23790315 - 11/01/16 01:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well,
I don't get a choice in what I'm talking about?
If you understand . . .
God is choicelessly God. "God" (finite concept) "is" (condition, not true) the only existing (I speak relative to the illusion before you) "entity" (conditions, bounds, not true).
So I mean . . . language defines what we can talk about. We can't talk about the one thing that is true.
All I can recommend is the spiritual practices which are designed to promote a loss of doubt about these notions.
And that is all that is required. You are, literally, right now, deliberately lying to me about not understanding what I mean. We are the one being playing a game.
-------------------- Hostile humankind Can't you see you're fucking blind?
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remake


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beforethedawn
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Re: True Love Exists [Re: remake]
#23791926 - 11/01/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Beautiful music.
-------------------- Hostile humankind Can't you see you're fucking blind?
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