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vacantrain
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Smokeshop Kratom- nothing at all. Anyone else?
#23787338 - 10/31/16 12:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I had trying kratom on the super-backburner simply as a new experience with a natural plant, but then the DEA trying to make it illegal made me get a bag of capsules ASAP.
The other day I took a low dose of 6 capsules and felt literally nothing. I'm not a small guy and I was pretty sure I would need a higher doseage, but I wasn't expecting nothing at all. Tonight I took 9 capsules (4.5g supposedly) and still feel nothing.
Do you guys think this plant is just not for me, or is this headshop stuff not as good as whole leaves I can't know for sure? This specific product:
http://opmkratom.com/?page_id=85
Edited by vacantrain (10/31/16 12:48 AM)
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Re: Smokeshop Kratom- nothing at all. Anyone else? [Re: vacantrain]
#23788083 - 10/31/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Kratom is subtle. I wasnt at all impressed at first and to be honest you have to manage expectations as it is not XTC or heroin or even anywhere near as psychoactive as something like cannabis. I go to work on it all the time but I would never dream of doing that on canabis!
Would be too obvious I was stoned but a kratom 'high' is hard to detect even for the person using it sometimes and especially maybe when the user is expecting too much and not really accustomed to what it does!
It doesent really make you feel high per say its just a nice warm feeling and can be stimulating and dreamy in higher doses.
Do you really feel nothing, no feelings of warmth or stimulation?
That website looks tacky though! They need an 'authenticity guide' because people are counterfeiting their packaging and selling inferior products passed off as the genuine OPM? Hmmmmm! What really?
Looks like a tacky over priced rip off head shop!
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Re: Smokeshop Kratom- nothing at all. Anyone else? [Re: wolf8312]
#23788085 - 10/31/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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tried it one time, not worth the money - i did have an opiate high for about 6 hours it was intense but I took about 20 grams. Wont do that again though, could tell the stuff could be addicting and was too expensive from a shop.
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Re: Smokeshop Kratom- nothing at all. Anyone else? [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23788214 - 10/31/16 11:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shop kratom has always been equally as effective as online kratom in my experience. And i have tried many different shops.
Shop kratom is wayyyy too expensive though. I have ordered kilos online for quite some time now. Saves me an unreal amount of money.
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Re: Smokeshop Kratom- nothing at all. Anyone else? [Re: ak47myth]
#23788222 - 10/31/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your kratom could be low quality. Ive also had friends who felt no effects off my good kratom though.
Make sure you dose on an empty stomach.1
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Re: Smokeshop Kratom- nothing at all. Anyone else? [Re: vacantrain]
#23788822 - 10/31/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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vacantrain said:
The other day I took a low dose of 6 capsules and felt literally nothing. I'm not a small guy and I was pretty sure I would need a higher doseage, but I wasn't expecting nothing at all. Tonight I took 9 capsules (4.5g supposedly) and still feel nothing.
Have you used opiates regularly in the past?
I've been taking kratom daily for a few years now, and 4.5g would have me feeling very pleasant (my typical dose these days is 1.5g to 2g) .
Could very well just be the quality/potency of that stuff you got isn't the greatest, and/or you're one of those people that really don't feel much from the stuff unless one takes a relatively huge dose. (taking it on an empty stomach also helps with absorption)
2g, for someone with no tolerance to opioids, should be plenty for most people as a starting point in dosage.
I guess try a different source, get some powdered leaf offline and take the same dosage...around 4g should be more than plenty for someone with no opioid tolerance.
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Re: Smokeshop Kratom- nothing at all. Anyone else? [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23790283 - 11/01/16 01:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi guys, for some reason the quote is not working for me right now so I will just do it the oldschool way:
"Have you used opiates regularly in the past?"
Nope. I had some pain pill for tweaking my back a few years ago and it was effective and also quite relaxing and "warm" feeling, but I took maybe 3 pills the entire time.
I suspect though that I might not have the personality/brain type that is super receptive to opiate-like substances. I am a depressive, low energy individual in general (don't worry, I'm at a good point in life all things considered) so I suspect it would take me more than the usual of any downer to really feel it...but that's my off the cuff theory. I don't want to take some "heroic" dose of a plant just to feel it's effects and maybe get into trouble.
"Do you really feel nothing, no feelings of warmth or stimulation?"
Last night the only thing I had was mild stomache upset (possibly swallowing any 9 pills in a row by itself would do that), and I *might* have bobbed my head a little more grooving to my music, but that could've just been that I was tired.
Nothing to be really disappointed here, I was just experimenting but I don't think I'll waste anymore money if this is not my plant. The upside is that my brain is more receptive and open to the psychadelic experience than anyone I know. I'll still be on the lookout for any more natural plant experiences in the future. Thanks for the response everyone!
Edited by vacantrain (11/01/16 01:13 AM)
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Re: Smokeshop Kratom- nothing at all. Anyone else? [Re: vacantrain]
#23791507 - 11/01/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
vacantrain said:
I suspect though that I might not have the personality/brain type that is super receptive to opiate-like substances. I am a depressive, low energy individual in general (don't worry, I'm at a good point in life all things considered) so I suspect it would take me more than the usual of any downer to really feel it....
I too am a rather low energy/depressive person, that's actually one of the primary reasons I take kratom daily, for a lift in physical & mental energy and mood (I take it as a medicine, taking the same amounts around the same time every day, and not something to purely catch a buzz on), and I've always been very sensitive to opiates in general. Kratom gives me more raw natural feeling energy and stamina than any other drug or herb I've tried, by far, and it's not a stimulating/wired energy like caffeine, adderall or other classic stimulants.
It's likely the stuff you took just wasn't all that great quality or potency...but there are some folks out there that do have to take more than others to feel anything from kratom.
(I'm the contrary, I just took a mere gram 30 minutes ago, and can definitely feel it, even after taking kratom daily for years)
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Re: Smokeshop Kratom- nothing at all. Anyone else? [Re: openmind]
#23791627 - 11/01/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have tried that brand before, and it was very weak.
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Re: Smokeshop Kratom- nothing at all. Anyone else? [Re: zonkey]
#23791794 - 11/01/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have been taking kratom for a year and a half and I love it! I'm always amazed when people say it didn't do anything for them, or they didn't like it. I wouldn't waste your time or money on headshop kratom. I get a kilo for $65. 4 grams of that makes me feel great...I take subsequent doses through out the day and by the end of the night, I am on cloud 9 pretty good...sometimes uncomfortably good.
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Re: Smokeshop Kratom- nothing at all. Anyone else? [Re: just_curious]
#23793340 - 11/01/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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zonkey said: I have tried that brand before, and it was very weak.
Hey thanks, glad to hear a review of the specific capsules I took. Have you had other kratom that was stronger?
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just_curious said: I have been taking kratom for a year and a half and I love it! I'm always amazed when people say it didn't do anything for them, or they didn't like it. I wouldn't waste your time or money on headshop kratom. I get a kilo for $65. 4 grams of that makes me feel great...I take subsequent doses through out the day and by the end of the night, I am on cloud 9 pretty good...sometimes uncomfortably good.
Interesting. I'll put it back on the backburner though, I don't have extra cash for a new habit, if I come across it in "the wild" I'll definitely give it a try, or order some higher quality if I come across some cash. Will stick to shrooms for the moment.
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Re: Smokeshop Kratom- nothing at all. Anyone else? [Re: vacantrain]
#23793950 - 11/02/16 08:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I too once tried the smokeshop capsules and felt absolutely nothing
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Re: Smokeshop Kratom- nothing at all. Anyone else? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#23794146 - 11/02/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Whenever I absolutely have to buy capsules, I empty the contents into a cup and toss and wash. It's roughly .5 gram per and I take a 4-5 gram dose. The capsules take too long to dissolve, and I can't imagine that they are good for your stomach. Especially when taking 10 at a time!
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Re: Smokeshop Kratom- nothing at all. Anyone else? [Re: just_curious] 1
#23794262 - 11/02/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've had good smokeshop kratom but they're pretty notorious for being bad. Kratom is absolutely a potent psychoactive. Sure it may not be comparable to oxy or even cannabis in strength but unless you have a rare tolerance there is no reason you shouldn't feel it other than product quality.
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Re: Smokeshop Kratom- nothing at all. Anyone else? [Re: just_curious]
#23794404 - 11/02/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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just_curious said: Whenever I absolutely have to buy capsules, I empty the contents into a cup and toss and wash. It's roughly .5 gram per and I take a 4-5 gram dose. The capsules take too long to dissolve, and I can't imagine that they are good for your stomach. Especially when taking 10 at a time!
Capsules are made of gelatin. It's like eating a few spoonfuls of Jell-o.
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