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topdog82
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Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children?
#23786225 - 10/30/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Let's say we have a mother named Sarah who is addicted to meth and is pregnant. And obviously, as a result, her kid will most likely have some cognitive detriments for the rest of his/her life. Would you say its fair for the govt to force her to get an abortion?
I'm surprised that drinking/smoking while pregnant is legal. I think its fair to force someone to abort their kid in this specific scenario
the whole "let's legalize drugs" thought process is because drugs effect only the user. but drinking while pregnant is akin to forcing alcohol down a 1 year old's throat
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: topdog82] 1
#23786359 - 10/30/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I say we abort Sarah
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: topdog82]
#23786364 - 10/30/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, not fair at all.
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: topdog82]
#23786373 - 10/30/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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can we abort the parent instead?
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23786389 - 10/30/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: can we abort the parent instead?
That might upset pro-lifers.
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Mad_Larkin
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: topdog82]
#23786399 - 10/30/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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what kind of twisted morality are you using to justify aborting people just because theyre going to be mentally subnormal?
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Edited by ruaware (12/06/16 04:16 AM)
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: topdog82]
#23786430 - 10/30/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Were they talking about this shit at school or something?.. What made u post about this?...
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: zZZz]
#23786465 - 10/30/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think this is appropriate. You should realistically have to pass a standardized test to be able to have a child.
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
#23786472 - 10/30/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If these 'mothers' cared they would adopt instead most of them do it because it's a status thing to have a fatherless home
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Mad_Larkin
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
#23786481 - 10/30/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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BiG_StroOnZ said: I think this is appropriate. You should realistically have to pass a standardized test to be able to have a child.
these two things arent analogous. depriving an already living organism of life is different to preventing the conception of said organism
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topdog82
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23786548 - 10/30/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: No, not fair at all.
why? whats your logic?
I just watched some news story about some kid who is basically autistic for life due to the moms heroin addiction?
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topdog82
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#23786551 - 10/30/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: what kind of twisted morality are you using to justify aborting people just because theyre going to be mentally subnormal?
lol no. Because you are bringing another being in this world and forcing it to not have the ability to communicate or live a full life
I see no issues? I mean if one of you guys walked in to me giving scotch to a baby in his baby bottle, would it be fair to say I am unfit parent?
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: topdog82]
#23786552 - 10/30/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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you do realise that if we're going to make arbitrary judgement calls on people's intelligence then i could just as easily say that you should have been aborted?
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PatrickKn


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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: topdog82]
#23786556 - 10/30/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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'Unfortunately' not everything can be regulated with too much ease. As they say, freedom isn't free. Sometimes you have to make concessions in society to keep things relatively equal and relatively fair (within reason), and that includes allowing people who probably shouldn't become parents.
It will be a few centuries before the world is on board with reproductive eugenics. Right now it's not morally okay. I personally disagree with eugenics myself for the time we live in.
Edited by PatrickKn (10/30/16 06:47 PM)
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topdog82
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#23786559 - 10/30/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: you do realise that if we're going to make arbitrary judgement calls on people's intelligence then i could just as easily say that you should have been aborted?
fair point. But then should we arrest the mother? perhaps take the kid into govt custody?
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: topdog82] 2
#23786561 - 10/30/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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topdog82 said:
I just watched some news story about some kid who is basically autistic for life due to the moms heroin addiction?
There's no real evidence that heroin causes autism, or that any illegal drugs cause retardation or any of these birth deficits that you're claiming.
The only side effects that have been scientifically established are low birth weight, premature delivery, and placental disruption. Everything else is mere speculation.
This is simply bad science to force abortions based on a possibility that hasn't been proven.
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PatrickKn


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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: topdog82]
#23786563 - 10/30/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Arrest the mother for what? Doing methamphetamine?
We already do that.
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#23786566 - 10/30/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said:
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BiG_StroOnZ said: I think this is appropriate. You should realistically have to pass a standardized test to be able to have a child.
these two things arent analogous. depriving an already living organism of life is different to preventing the conception of said organism
This isn't even English, what planet are you from kid?
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Mad_Larkin
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Re: Are you okay with the govt forcing people to abort children? [Re: topdog82]
#23786567 - 10/30/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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well, thats exactly what happens in this situation...
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