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First Rye Grow! "Stargazers"
    #23786100 - 10/30/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hey all! Finally decided to take the plunge again, as the first time I used BRF cakes and wasn't able to take as much care of the whole process as I would've liked(ended up with major contams and 2.2g's of fresh mushrooms).:cool: (sarcasm)

This time I'm going with pre-sterilized rye-grain bags with a filter-patch and SHIP(reviews we're surprisingly near-perfect). I understand that rye doesn't retain water super well, so I'll be adding a bit of water to keep them hydrated once they're ready to fruit. I'll most likely pick up some verm, as I'd prefer to case... Despite my inexperience, I'm wholeheartedly one to change things up and try slightly tweaked methods, so we'll see what I decide!

Inoculated 10/29.

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Re: First Real Grow! (rye bags) [Re: Gengrar]
    #23786228 - 10/30/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: First Real Grow! (rye bags) [Re: amidogen]
    #23786313 - 10/30/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Could work or could go bad. :laugh:
Look at the awesome grow logs of CaptainFuture. He often used MS to grain with great success. I would not recommend it but if you don't want to work with agar you have not much possibilities. It is better to just inoculate a small grain jar then wait and hope for healthy grow and g2g.


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Re: First Real Grow! (rye bags) [Re: enlightenment]
    #23786319 - 10/30/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Uncontrolled = risk. I wish you good fortune though.


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Re: First Real Grow! (rye bags) [Re: Ferather]
    #23786407 - 10/30/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: First Real Grow! (rye bags) [Re: amidogen]
    #23786466 - 10/30/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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My bigger point is the "pre-sterilized grains". Do MS->grains all you want, at least if it goes bad and you made your own sub then you know it's the syringe and it's time for agar. With pre-sterilized sub you're risking everything on someone else prepping your sub right and getting it to you still in proper condition. Even a clean syringe is worthless if your grains aren't properly sterilized.





Nah, I definitely hear you loud and clear. I'm not in the position to be able to sterilize my own substrates currently, which is the only reason I'd even attempt pre-sterilized grains. Like I said, the reviews for this companies sub was pretty top notch, so I'm showing them some faith. I'd be more worried about the syringe I ordered, since I didn't get it from a sponsored site.:rolleyes:

I've been lurking here and reading for yeeeeaaars, but my memory isn't the best, so I have to refresh myself~


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Re: First Real Grow! (rye bags) [Re: enlightenment]
    #23786473 - 10/30/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Could work or could go bad. :laugh:
Look at the awesome grow logs of CaptainFuture. He often used MS to grain with great success. I would not recommend it but if you don't want to work with agar you have not much possibilities. It is better to just inoculate a small grain jar then wait and hope for healthy grow and g2g.




I can't wait to get into working with agar! Fungi in general are such an amazing/capable life form, I think it's more than worth it to screw around with 'em. All the  fatty clones forever.


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Re: First Real Grow! (rye bags) [Re: Gengrar]
    #23788320 - 10/31/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Start agar and learn to prep your own grain. Rhy is probably the best grain, what Rodgerrabbit, a grower of decades used. It can hold moisture fine.

I'd go ahead and order Petri dishes and premix agar from a sponsor and start getting some cultures cleaned up before you put them on grain

Ms syringe to spawn bag is not something that is a top choice of mine to inoculate

If I was in a position that didn't allow pressure cooking I just wouldn't grow mushrooms. :shrug:

And I gather you plan to case the 100% colonized grain with strait verm in the grow bag? If that's the case check out damion5050's elementary bucket tek. Expanding the colonized grains to a (bulk) substrate in 66qt monotubs should yield over a quarter pound if your spawn is clean. (That's over 100 grams dry :wink: ) lil better than 2g wet. :goodluck:


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Re: First Real Grow! (rye bags) [Re: amidogen]
    #23788423 - 10/31/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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So for your first "real" grow after having a PF grow mostly contam out, you knocked up "pre-sterilized" grains with an MS syringe?




Hey, we all had to start somewhere...

I'd say invest $50 in a small PC, so you can do your own grain jars and liquid inoculants. You could also use it to do agar! :thumbup:

PC a small jar of grain and inoculate it with your MS syringe.

When it's full of myc, use a jar full of sterile/PC'ed water to fill the grain jar half way and shake it up to get the myc into the water. Pull the clean myc up into a clean syringe.

Use the syringe to knock up some grain jars AND some agar.

Then you can use the grain spawn to inoculate some pasteurized coir and verm in a mini casing. Like the bucket tek.
Now you have some fruits coming, and you still have your agar work started.
All the supplies are fairly cheap, and you don't have to buy them all at once.

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Re: First Real Grow! (rye bags) [Re: Spore Ninja]
    #23801715 - 11/04/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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amidogen said:
So for your first "real" grow after having a PF grow mostly contam out, you knocked up "pre-sterilized" grains with an MS syringe?




Hey, we all had to start somewhere...

I'd say invest $50 in a small PC, so you can do your own grain jars and liquid inoculants. You could also use it to do agar! :thumbup:

PC a small jar of grain and inoculate it with your MS syringe.

When it's full of myc, use a jar full of sterile/PC'ed water to fill the grain jar half way and shake it up to get the myc into the water. Pull the clean myc up into a clean syringe.

Use the syringe to knock up some grain jars AND some agar.

Then you can use the grain spawn to inoculate some pasteurized coir and verm in a mini casing. Like the bucket tek.
Now you have some fruits coming, and you still have your agar work started.
All the supplies are fairly cheap, and you don't have to buy them all at once.

Good luck!!




Thank you! Yeah, I'll definitely get deeper into the hobby in the next few years. I recently had to move back in with my folks, so I keep everything on the down-low. Only reason I haven't done everything "properly".


Saw some mycelium popping up on one of the bags, but I didn't see any in the other. Was probably starting more from the inside. I gave them both some tumbling and set them back in their incubation place!

I'll definitely upload pictures soon, I've just been having issues with Google Drive. That, and I'm sure no one would be overly excited about a picture of two rye bags and a box. Lol


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