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akira_akuma
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Re: The Change-Over from Survival Being to Pleasure Being [Re: Kickle]
#23792505 - 11/01/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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survival is overrated. people die for stupid shit all the time, and don't even get a Darwin.
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Re: The Change-Over from Survival Being to Pleasure Being [Re: Kickle] 1
#23792514 - 11/01/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Without the absolute necessities of survival to drive actions, pleasure and what it means to be can be dictated by those who promise purpose.
-------------------- Just a fool on the hill.
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Re: The Change-Over from Survival Being to Pleasure Being [Re: pineninja]
#23792521 - 11/01/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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so far, not. but we can hope people stop being insane.
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Re: The Change-Over from Survival Being to Pleasure Being [Re: pineninja]
#23792544 - 11/01/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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pineninja said: Without the absolute necessities of survival to drive actions, pleasure and what it means to be can be dictated by those who promise purpose.
maybe? what do you mean by "absolute necessities of survival"?
-------------------- Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain
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Re: The Change-Over from Survival Being to Pleasure Being [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23792545 - 11/01/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The further we travel from the necessary the deeper in the mire of emotions and lust we find ourselves. We are now at a point in the west where happiness is dictated by those with the least to offer.
-------------------- Just a fool on the hill.
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Re: The Change-Over from Survival Being to Pleasure Being [Re: Kickle] 1
#23792564 - 11/01/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Kickle said:
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pineninja said: Without the absolute necessities of survival to drive actions, pleasure and what it means to be can be dictated by those who promise purpose.
maybe? what do you mean by "absolute necessities of survival"?
What would you consider necessary ? We have all been pushed so far away we are now forced to re assess what it is we actually needed....in spite of the true knowledge being a fundamental part of what we are we are forced to question and alter our paradigms. In doing so we are manipulated away from life for life's sake and love for loves sake.
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Re: The Change-Over from Survival Being to Pleasure Being [Re: pineninja]
#23792568 - 11/01/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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more than pleasure is a tyranny, it's time.
time and the unwillingness to supersede positions of power that are based on mythlore and religion...to be quite honest, i'm not even anti-religion. it's a process.
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Re: The Change-Over from Survival Being to Pleasure Being [Re: akira_akuma]
#23792611 - 11/01/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If time were to be represented in a moment or as a circle (as I believe it to be) then progression or regression are only illusions and will be used against you...... ie here are the answers to the questions that you cannot see. Does the tree question its existence and are we superior because we do?
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Re: The Change-Over from Survival Being to Pleasure Being [Re: pineninja]
#23792697 - 11/01/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: The Change-Over from Survival Being to Pleasure Being [Re: pineninja]
#23792838 - 11/01/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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pineninja said:
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Kickle said:
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pineninja said: Without the absolute necessities of survival to drive actions, pleasure and what it means to be can be dictated by those who promise purpose.
maybe? what do you mean by "absolute necessities of survival"?
What would you consider necessary ? We have all been pushed so far away we are now forced to re assess what it is we actually needed....in spite of the true knowledge being a fundamental part of what we are we are forced to question and alter our paradigms. In doing so we are manipulated away from life for life's sake and love for loves sake.
the only thing necessary for survival IMO is to be alive or said another way, to be able to die
I have no idea what you're trying to say with the rest
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Re: The Change-Over from Survival Being to Pleasure Being [Re: Kickle]
#23792935 - 11/01/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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We agree. Our existence has been deliberately and manifestly confused. Our lot is just to be, realising this has been liberating.
-------------------- Just a fool on the hill.
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