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Invisiblesudly
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My human experience summarised.
    #23784682 - 10/30/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My nervous system is a spiderweb of conductive tissue that grants me a dualistic perception from whence I can chemically and electrically manoeuvre my body of atoms through a quantum field.



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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: sudly]
    #23784751 - 10/30/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

quantum?


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Invisiblesudly
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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23784777 - 10/30/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The theoretical framework of matter.


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: sudly]
    #23784936 - 10/30/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My turn:

Has he dived into deep and unfathomable abysses of consciousness, lulled into reveries of timeless hymns chanted in the womb of creation itself?

Has he witnessed the illusion of such dreams, and realized that he was only in a stagnant pool of shallow limitation, that this return to creation was really a flirtation with death?

Finally, has he then resolved to stubbornly continue to pursue purpose and meaning in such trivialities and fantasies, knowing in his heart that he is lost, and without the will to change his path, his destiny?


Such things happen to men, and woe is he who wallows in his helplessness to find himself and his truth.


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: mikeisapro]
    #23784973 - 10/30/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Heavy shit mang.


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Invisiblesudly
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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: mikeisapro]
    #23784975 - 10/30/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You're not being explicit but here.

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He has dove into deep and unfathomable abysses of implicit perceptions.




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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: sudly] * 2
    #23785607 - 10/30/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

There ain't no outside bruv.

I don't know what the shit the world is, but it's inside you, it is you.


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23785620 - 10/30/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: mikeisapro]
    #23789696 - 10/31/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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mikeisapro said:
Has he dived into deep and unfathomable abysses of consciousness, lulled into reveries of timeless hymns chanted in the womb of creation itself?





Nay for it be but one and one. From one. Of one.

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mikeisapro said:
Has he witnessed the illusion of such dreams, and realized that he was only in a stagnant pool of shallow limitation, that this return to creation was really a flirtation with death?





A witness as thus can only speak as such.

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mikeisapro said:
Finally, has he then resolved to stubbornly continue to pursue purpose and meaning in such trivialities and fantasies, knowing in his heart that he is lost, and without the will to change his path, his destiny?





From purpose springs purpose in varying degrees of creation.
From the unmanifest springs forth the manifest for which one prematurely claims triviality and fantasy.

And what of a path and path(s) for which one is never fully knowing? Such is life for all of man whom have the will to live.

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mikeisapro said:
Such things happen to men, and woe is he who wallows in his helplessness to find himself and his truth.




Such happenings is the resignation of all of mankind from the point of 'knowing'. All are lost and must journey to be found and no man can be the judge of another's said journey.


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: phio]
    #23790215 - 11/01/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

the demarcation of the inside versus the outside is a testament to how humans (and all life) functions, and how humans are so very very confused.


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Invisiblesudly
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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: phio]
    #23790222 - 11/01/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

For the life of me I can't comprehend any point in what you say.


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: sudly]
    #23790224 - 11/01/16 12:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

he is on some crazy shit. hopefully his opining can solidify into something more tangible...i like what he has to say, but it is very fragmented.


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Invisiblephio


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: sudly]
    #23790243 - 11/01/16 12:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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sudly said:
For the life of me I can't comprehend any point in what you say.




It was meant for 'mikeisapro' who presented equally spirited commentary. Figured I'd reply in kind and you maybe have comprehended it in a previous life Sudly. You just have to awaken to it....
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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23790246 - 11/01/16 12:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
he is on some crazy shit. hopefully his opining can solidify into something more tangible...i like what he has to say, but it is very fragmented.



Those who know how to piece it together will do so .. Somethings cannot be stated explicitly.
Mike presented some strong fragments... I figured I'd present some strong ones in return.

I'm pretty sure you understood some fragments as well you just don't want to state explicitly what you felt was being said...
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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: phio]
    #23790253 - 11/01/16 12:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

i'm all for obscurantism (for those who think outside the box) and that which can't be explicated without poofing away -- by all means, if you can express the inexpressible, and denote the ineffable in words and concepts that we can fathom with communication, then by all means.

for now, i think, however, that fragments will just have to do, won't they?


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Invisiblesudly
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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23790261 - 11/01/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Figured I'd reply in kind and you maybe have comprehended it in a previous life Sudly.




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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23790288 - 11/01/16 01:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
i'm all for obscurantism (for those who think outside the box) and that which can't be explicated without poofing away -- by all means, if you can express the inexpressible, and denote the ineffable in words and concepts that we can fathom with communication, then by all means.

for now, i think, however, that fragments will just have to do, won't they?




Yeah and some are coy and not forth coming about what they have conceived from presented fragments... So, the ineffable remains.

Maybe Mike will reply and shed some light or darkness on the matter for the lay as it was his fragmented comments that got this going.. He surely should be able to put this to explicit words or tell you why he wont .. :nyan:


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: sudly]
    #23790289 - 11/01/16 01:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

sudly said:
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Figured I'd reply in kind and you maybe have comprehended it in a previous life Sudly.




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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: phio]
    #23790310 - 11/01/16 01:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like you guys are reciting some kind of ritual.

I understand some of what you say though - it's necessary to speak on the level of metaphor sometimes because psychopaths do not understand metaphor.


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: viktor]
    #23790323 - 11/01/16 02:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, it's not like we made all those words and ideas up based out of our asses; no, it's a method of avoiding psychopaths, another made-up concept derived from abstract information.


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: viktor]
    #23790331 - 11/01/16 02:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

There is understanding but there is apprehension on all sides w.r.t to putting it to explicit words..... Interesting



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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: sudly]
    #23790474 - 11/01/16 05:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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sudly said:
My nervous system is a spiderweb of conductive tissue that grants me a dualistic perception from whence I can chemically and electrically manoeuvre my body of atoms through a quantum field.






My experience is a mix of
  • uncategorized sensations
  • and fragments of thought
  • and  reconnecting with the flow
  • after  tripping out on tangents that often add perspective to
  • the ongoing chaos of uncategorized sensations
  • and...


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23792526 - 11/01/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Don't forget there are 8 senses.

Sight, sound, touch, taste, smell, vestibular, proprioception and stereognosis.


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: sudly]
    #23798638 - 11/03/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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sudly said:
My nervous system is a spiderweb of conductive tissue that grants me a dualistic perception from whence I can chemically and electrically manoeuvre my body of atoms through a quantum field.






you already said it yourself:

you are into dualism,

or stuck in dualism

according to those who have a more expansive perspective

it is up to you to investigate this

it is doubtful if rational argument effects those into dualism

apparently it may be investigated by etheogens or meditation

generally, to those into these experential modes, rational argument holds little weight - so whom is your post for?


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: laughingdog]
    #23798721 - 11/03/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Within dualism I experience both explicit sensations and implicit perceptions.

If you know the difference there are no misunderstandings.

There is subjectivity(implicit), and objectivity(explicit).


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: sudly]
    #23798771 - 11/03/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

sudly, I hope you realize that no one in the world has any idea what you're talking about when you offer up these terms you have coined that are undefined.  That essentially means they're meaningless, technically.


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23799216 - 11/03/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't coined these terms.
Implicit perception is a fancy way of saying imagination.

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Implicit cognition refers to unconscious influences such as knowledge, perception, or memory, that influence a person's behavior.




Explicit sensations is a pretty self explanatory term, it's the experience of sensations that are explicit. E.g. A bee sting will hurt and cause a physical/explicit reaction in your body.


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: sudly] * 2
    #23800211 - 11/04/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

fancy talk is not good for learning
try to think and express your ideas in simplest terms.
nothing fancy.

fancy is for after your victory dinner with speeches, a tuxedo, bow tie, and dancers with feathers (and nothing else) will do the trick.


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23801112 - 11/04/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

In simplest terms, just for you.

Dualism = subjectivity + objectivity

Even simpler..

Dualism = imagination + reality


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: sudly] * 1
    #23801297 - 11/04/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

what's with the equal sign
these are examples not equations


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23801530 - 11/04/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's an explanation not an example.


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: sudly]
    #23801552 - 11/04/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:facepalm:

That is NOT an explanation, nor remotely scientific.  It's a few vague words.


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: DividedQuantum] * 4
    #23801623 - 11/04/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

it seems like people are on drugs here all the time.


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Re: My human experience summarised. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23801661 - 11/04/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The only reason it wouldn't be an explanation is if you don't understand what dualism is.


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