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    #2378465 - 02/26/04 09:48 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Redhat or SuSE? [Re: failbot999]
    #2380521 - 02/26/04 07:07 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

the D-Link DWL-120 adapter works with this driver

I would go with Redhat


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Re: Redhat or SuSE? [Re: failbot999]
    #2380726 - 02/26/04 08:25 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

gentoo.

redhat (the free version) isn't redhat anymore, its now called fedora core. fedora is pretty decent for newbies.


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Re: Redhat or SuSE? [Re: riffic]
    #2386957 - 02/28/04 06:04 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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gentoo




Word. If you want to really get to know your os, while at the same time take advantage of *relatively* pain free upgrading. Use Gentoo.


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Re: Redhat or SuSE? [Re: failbot999]
    #2387896 - 02/29/04 01:44 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

uhhhh freebsd...you'll really get to learn your computer that way...and if you don't want to go the whole unix route...try slackware, it's prolly the best *nix out there.

of course, i run RH 7.3 just because i'm lazy and my girlfriend can actually comprehend the easiness of it.


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Re: Redhat or SuSE? [Re: failbot999]
    #2390693 - 03/01/04 11:49 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Red Hat is good for learning linux, I use slackware, more unix-like, r0x!


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Re: Redhat or SuSE? [Re: failbot999]
    #2394072 - 03/02/04 08:11 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

slackware is so full of broken depencies and red hat sucks plain and simple. i agree that freebsd is the best free unix variant out there but its not too easy for everyone to use. debian and gentoo are IMO the two linux distros that seems best


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Re: Redhat or SuSE? [Re: failbot999]
    #2395302 - 03/02/04 03:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I would recommend SuSE. Other distros are also great and they are capable of doing the same but in terms of installation, set up and use, SuSE has something other distros don't have - or at least with the same flexibility and content - it's called Yast2.
You can install SuSE in less than 1 hour with all the packages you want and with automatic dependencies check. It also let's you setup all your machine easily and at the same time it gives you tips about how to configure things manually. This is a great help if you want to gain more knowledge of the inner works of linux.

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Re: Redhat or SuSE? [Re: MAIA]
    #2395332 - 03/02/04 03:46 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Btw, install KDE 3.2 as your shell and try it, you can do it on any distro. IMHO, it?s a feature rich and very robust GUI.
Here?s a snapshot of my desktop :wink:


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Re: Redhat or SuSE? [Re: failbot999]
    #2397652 - 03/03/04 10:38 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I suggest SuSE or Debian

Gentoo is usually a source distrobution, and I don't think you want to deal with compiling it.


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Re: Redhat or SuSE? [Re: MAIA]
    #2401827 - 03/04/04 10:53 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

*distro war* :laugh:
MAIA: Nice screenshot, do you open windows apps with wine/winex3 ?
I think I have KDE 3.1 on my slack9.1


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Re: Redhat or SuSE? [Re: failbot999]
    #2402637 - 03/04/04 02:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I'm a Debian disciple. When you watch APT upgrade 93 packages at once, and it works correctly without breaking any dependencies, you'll understand.

I know from experience that Red Hat will put you in dependency hell in short order, and I suspect SUSE is the same in that respect.


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    #2403672 - 03/04/04 07:11 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Redhat or SuSE? [Re: T0aD]
    #2403978 - 03/04/04 08:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks TOaD. I have tried some win software with wine and some games with winex and i like how the project is developing but i play windows games in native windows. I have tried two of my favorite games in native linux, UT series and MOHAA which run great :smile: but windows is still the biggest gaming OS :rolleyes: .
I use win4lin which is a nice win9x emulator. It runs like a process inside a normal window where you can install and run 95% of the native windows software, actually i have it running in that screenshot. The downside, it doesn't have any D3D support, so no games :nonono:. I use it only to run some utilities and test the web pages with internet explorer.
Slackware is a great distro. You should try kde 3.2, it's much better than 3.1, many new options and improved speed :wink:. Go to kde.org and download it.

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Re: Redhat or SuSE? [Re: failbot999]
    #2404904 - 03/05/04 12:48 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Here goes, sorry if I'm telling you some stuff that you already know here, but I didn't want to assume anything.

Linux programs are like this: they require (depend upon) libraries and other programs in order to have all the information needed to run. A great many of them require glibc or GTK+, for instance, and there are many cases where one program will draw upon the fuctions of another or act as a front-end for another program. That's what dependencies are.

Now then, different distros use different methods of managing packages/programs. Red Hat and its derivatives (of which SuSE is one) use Redhat Package Manager, and you download programs in .rpm format. The thing is any particular program will have a different .rpm file for each RPM-using distro, and for different versions of distros--what a pain in the ass. And if you try to install an RPM which doesn't have all its dependencies met, it will tell you so, but it won't do much to help. It can get difficult to upgrade stuff while not breaking it. Just see how many people try to upgrade a comprehensive suite of programs such as GNOME using this; most would rather just wait for a new version of the distro.

Debian packages are in .deb files, and are stored neatly in repositories run by the Debian organization. They also have a nice, logical system of categorizing releases by stability. No different files corresponding to different distro versions or anything like that. A feature called APT does a nice job of downloading and installing packages while keeping track of dependencies. If you try to install something that doesn't have its dependencies met, it will download and install whatever you need. It just won't let dependencies get out of hand.

Edit: I'm told there is now an "apt-rpm" manager that can manage RPM packages like the DEBs in Debian. I don't know how well it works, but it sounds like just what those RPM distros need.


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Re: Redhat or SuSE? [Re: MarioNett]
    #2417278 - 03/11/04 01:12 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

slackware reigns supreme, well, unless your running debian. matter of taste really. i still prefer slackware though. dlink should be supported as well, mine took awhile to setup though since i had to manually install it using optimizations flags, setting include directory path etc etc, fucking Makefile...


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Re: Redhat or SuSE? [Re: failbot999]
    #2468318 - 03/24/04 06:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

www.slackware.com - simple and effective :-)


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