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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: NothingsChanged]
    #23799874 - 11/04/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

at least they didn't seize your car and only towed and impounded it. Small brightside.


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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23800085 - 11/04/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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at least they didn't seize your car and only towed and impounded it. Small brightside.





Ya, I actually feel pretty fortunate, things could be a lot worse.  FYI though, they did obtain a search warrent for the car...


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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23800154 - 11/04/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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at least they didn't seize your car and only towed and impounded it. Small brightside.




no doubt.  there are many states outside of the PNW where asset forfeiture is routinely--and often inappropriately & abusively--practiced as a way to supplement funding of their departments, their habits, and other completely ridiculous things.


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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: relic]
    #23800158 - 11/04/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The fact that police can pounce on you and arrest you for simply bending down and picking a fucking mushroom that nature grew really grinds my gears.


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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: Noumenon]
    #23801984 - 11/04/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Saw a kid get sentenced to 60 days today; he had 2 prior felonys though.    I heard them say they caught two more yesterday, all at Cape D.


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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: Rain_Cloud]
    #23802022 - 11/04/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Why did the title get changed?
I think Oregon gives out sentences based on sentencing guidelines

http://pedemontelaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/GuidelinesGrid-1-1.png

-oops, here the one for Washington I don't understand how this one works..

If you've never been in trouble they will probably give you a lighter sentence.
How many mushrooms did you have? It matters. Did you just get one possession change?


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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #23802083 - 11/04/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I miss titled it originally, I hope I don't scare anybody in Tacoma.  LOL


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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: Noumenon]
    #23802141 - 11/04/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The fact that police can pounce on you and arrest you for simply bending down and picking a fucking mushroom that nature grew really grinds my gears.



It does really suck. But things need to be looked at from all sides. It's a state park, the rules are in place not to just screw us. There in place so the rest of the population don't get screwed. Imagine planning a trip to the coast to view the earths natural beauty in it's natural State. Only to find that things from this scene are missing Or trampled or destroyed from footprints. Us as communities are who as a collective set up these parks and decide what areas are protected to maintain such natural undisturbed areas so everyone and there kids and there kids can enjoy tiny slivers of earth that we haven't altered with our selfish greed. With out rules and set aside areas/parks we may as well just plan to have are vacation in the field next to walmart. Remember. we are the ones that cause places like these to be policed. were not acting in a civilized way when we blatantly disregard rules put in place by our friends,neighbors and elected officials. I am not better than anybody and ive  been known to break rules. I'm just saying. It's a lot bigger than just "Gettem, there picking mushrooms". Whats so hard about picking other areas up and down the coast? These types of behaviors are how stereo types are formed. Stereo types are never removed once embedded into your culture.


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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: Rain_Cloud]
    #23802152 - 11/04/16 11:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

This is kind of moot, but there are these signs posted everywhere:



I've recently heard that ALL mushroom harvesting there is illegal between October and February.

I went there today for shits, the gf had never seen the bunkers and what not so we stopped by on our way through, and holy fuck the ranger presence is even more hardcore than I remember. They literally are staked out places watching for hunters like Rain_Cloud said.

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Once again you hit the nail on the head.  The lawyer I talked to was the paid consultation, I've already been appointed a lawyer by the court and been offered a plea deal.  Apparently because I was charged with the lowest possible charge, 1 count of possession, there is no way for them to offer me a lower charge.  Basically the courts hands are tied by federal drug laws. 

I REALLY don't want a felony record but it looks like there is no way to avoid it.  The Lawyer did say he MIGHT be able to find a hole in the prosecutions case but it didn't sound likely.  If I keep my nose clean for 5 years I can get it expunged.



Damn.

I didn't see you mention it but I apologize if you did, but how much jail time was the plea deal for?

At any rate, yeah five years and you'll be able to get your gun rights back and get the charge expunged, but be advised that the five year clock starts ticking once you've completed all terms of your sentencing INCLUDING paying all fines. You can get your gun rights back five years from the day you get out of jail, but the expungement requires all terms completed.

I've recently started the same process and was slapped in the face when I found out the deal about the fines - I unknowingly still had some money owed therefore my "clock" hasn't even started for expungement. And it's 10 years for me, womp womp.

But anyway man, I've spent the last 10 years as a felon and I've been able to get through it. It's taken some luck and knowing the right people, but I've lived a perfectly normal life from the day I was released. You'll pull through my dude.


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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: Oregonic] * 1
    #23802238 - 11/05/16 12:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yea no shit. Ive been to the joint twice. Atleast 3 years if not more in various county jails and i have my own business takeing me into peoples private lives and homes with a long list of people wanting my services i just can't get to(property Maint type work). I also work for a comercial remodeling company 3 or 4 days a week. They called me for the job from a customer referral. the hospital is an account of ours which means i have an Id and electric key fob that grants me access to any and all areas of the entire hospital campus. We have remodeled the federal building which houses the local irs,ss office and FBI north west division. Just to name a few. i have the keys to our company vehicles and equipment lock up yard.

It's all about the Person You are Not What you Were Or who you've been. It;s How you Treat People with respect and how you contribute to society and your community. If your honest in your heart it will shine through.

FYI the courts hands are never tied when it comes to plea deals. I have had mandatory weapons enhancement charges dropped when at the first plea deal there hands were so called tied. it's all give and take with the prosecutor and Defense. You would be surprised what they can and will do just to avoid a jury trial.



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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: NothingsChanged]
    #23802264 - 11/05/16 12:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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It's all about the Person You are Not What you Were Or who you've been. It;s How you Treat People with respect and how you contribute to society and your community. If your honest in your heart it will shine through.




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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: NothingsChanged]
    #23802289 - 11/05/16 01:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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As for the rest of you. How do you like me now?




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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: NothingsChanged]
    #23803200 - 11/05/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yea no shit. Ive been to the joint twice. Atleast 3 years if not more in various county jails and i have my own business takeing me into peoples private lives and homes with a long list of people wanting my services i just can't get to(property Maint type work). I also work for a comercial remodeling company 3 or 4 days a week. They called me for the job from a customer referral. the hospital is an account of ours which means i have an Id and electric key fob that grants me access to any and all areas of the entire hospital campus. We have remodeled the federal building which houses the local irs,ss office and FBI north west division. Just to name a few. i have the keys to our company vehicles and equipment lock up yard.

It's all about the Person You are Not What you Were Or who you've been. It;s How you Treat People with respect and how you contribute to society and your community. If your honest in your heart it will shine through.

FYI the courts hands are never tied when it comes to plea deals. I have had mandatory weapons enhancement charges dropped when at the first plea deal there hands were so called tied. it's all give and take with the prosecutor and Defense. You would be surprised what they can and will do just to avoid a jury trial.



As for the rest of you. How do you like me now?



Good for you my brother. The problem is that most people roll over and take it rather than fight for their own well being, where we have a society that tells you that your life is over after conviction. Totally not the case.

I did a bit of joint time when I was supposed to be in college, and all of my friends and family acted like my life was over. To make a long story short, I worked my way up the ladder and ultimately started my own business that likewise has me working in private residences, and commerical property where a large amount of trust and integrity is required.

About the court's hands being tied, I agree and should've mentioned that in my last post as well - that's bullshit indeed. My first plea bargain was for an absurd sentence with mandatory minimums (enhancements) included. I had my (bullshit) lawyer telling me there's absolutely nothing that could be done, so I got a private lawyer and ultimately all enhancements dropped, half of my charges dropped, and was in for less than a full year.

The prosecution has the ability to drop charges in exchange for pleading to a lesser charge, regardless of what it is. Federal laws have nothing to do with it. My charges were much worse than OP's.

It's entirely possible however that the local DA there isn't planning on budging on anything less than a felony for mushroom pickers. OP's lawyer telling him "the court's hands are tied" directly translates to: "the DA may not  budge and I'm not going to waste my time trying, just sign this and go away so I can move onto my next case."


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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: Oregonic]
    #23803340 - 11/05/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

15 days, although they said I'll get out early for good behavior.  Luckily for me I'm not a gun guy, don't own a one.


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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: Rain_Cloud] * 3
    #23805222 - 11/06/16 12:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

15 days? you can do that sitting on the toilet. You will get through this. If you pm me your name and the county that jails in/when you serve. I would put some money on your books. Gota have store.


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Re: POINT DEFIANCE IS A TRAP [Re: Adden]
    #23805230 - 11/06/16 12:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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My anus is moist and quivering.



Little off topic. But, as in the OP. You to, will get through this.


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Re: CAPE DISSAPOINTMENT IS A TRAP!!!! [Re: Rain_Cloud]
    #24321673 - 05/15/17 04:03 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I found a spot in the woods wwhere flushes can be found all day. Total tree coverage and they "shrooms" shouldnt be there. :smile: hint.... Look behind the campground near the grass but in the forest. Cant go wrong and no way to be seen if you look around. Very very private. Good luck


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    #24321693 - 05/15/17 04:10 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

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