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What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? 2
#23782691 - 10/29/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hillary's campaign recieved 30ish million dollars in donations from Qatar and Saudi Arabia, and in return, sent them military weapons and aircrafts, which Saudi Arabia and Qatar hands some or all of it to ISIS - the group thats considered one of the bigger global threats today.
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Hillary Clinton has known since at least 2014 that the governments of Saudi Arabia and Qatar provide “clandestine financial and logistic support” to ISIS and other radical Islamic groups – but, rather than refuse their money and call for a halt of arms sales and support, she has campaigned for more money and tried to increase their supply of arms.
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In an email revealed in the Intercept earlier this year, Jake Sullivan, then Clinton’s deputy chief of staff, celebrated the sale to Saudi Arabia of more than 80 Boeing F-15SA fighter jets – “along with upgrades to the pre-existing Saudi fleet of 70 F-15 aircraft and munitions, spare parts, training, maintenance, and logistics” – with the heading addressed to Clinton, “FYI — good news.”
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A top Clinton aide described a $60 billion weapons transfer of fighter jets and helicopters to Saudi Arabia as a “top priority.”
So essentially, Hillary and her party are supplying and funding ISIS, and helping them thrive (the scariest group of terrorists in the world, today).
Is this not the most scandalous thing about our 2 candidates?
What do Hillary supporters have to say about this? Are her actions justified? Is this some kind of strategy to make America "Hillary great" again? http://yournewswire.com/wikileaks-hillary-clinton-foundation-donors-isis/
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: trees]
#23782761 - 10/29/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So you are saying that if you give weed to a friend and that friend sells a nugget to a kid that you are selling weed to kids?
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: Morel Guy]
#23782779 - 10/29/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hillary Clinton has known since at least 2014 that the governments of Saudi Arabia and Qatar provide “clandestine financial and logistic support” to ISIS and other radical Islamic groups – but, rather than refuse their money and call for a halt of arms sales and support, she has campaigned for more money and tried to increase their supply of arms.
So what you're saying is, you know your weed ends up in the hands of kids, and you don't mind. As a matter of fact you're so OK with your weed ending up in the hands of kids that you want to increase the weed and money flowing through these kids?
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: trees]
#23782794 - 10/29/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The world is a complicated place
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: koods]
#23782834 - 10/29/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shit happens all the time. I don't know why the states don't control their royal allies in Arabia. Maybe because it's hard?
Isreal is a tiny little piece of land and I don't know why but it seems another Allie is important.
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: trees]
#23782847 - 10/29/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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trees said: so essentially, Hillary and her party are supplying and funding ISIS, and helping them thrive (the scariest group of terrorists in the world, today).
it's a known fact that democrats support terrorism, that's why obama pulled the troops out of Iraq, that's why even though they voted to go into afghanistan they later claimed they dont support the war on terrorism. that's why they want to take the guns from law abiding citizens so you can be a victim of democrat sponsored terrorism in your own neighborhoods while they dont suffer casualties
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: koods] 2
#23782851 - 10/29/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: The world is a complicated place 
that's like saying raping children is the will of god
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23782853 - 10/29/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol you are just a joker. No, you are serious? Mentally ill perhaps.
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: koods] 2
#23782879 - 10/29/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Koods, its interesting you say that though, it seems like it's the first Hillary related question that you don't have an answer for, and maybe even has you wondering.
Funding and arming the most unethical and murderous terrorists in the world, (but in an ethical way of course) to make for a more ethical and just country, even though the terrorists are using our weapons and money to murder in horrible unethical ways.
Here's one of her emails discussing the need for an unaware and compliant population.

I might be the crazy one, but imo, the Hillary supporters who preach her ethical nature are the absolute crazy ones. Maybe not crazy, but in desperate denial or ignorance.
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23782891 - 10/29/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: The world is a complicated place 
that's like saying raping children is the will of god
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23782902 - 10/29/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol wiki fraud
So when pictures of you rapping a 2 year old are on the web, it must of happened?
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: trees]
#23782918 - 10/29/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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trees said: Koods, its interesting you say that though, it seems like it's the first Hillary related question that you don't have an answer for, and maybe even has you wondering.
Funding and arming the most unethical and murderous terrorists in the world, (but in an ethical way of course) to make for a more ethical and just country, even though the terrorists are using our weapons and money to murder in horrible unethical ways.
Here's one of her emails discussing the need for an unaware and compliant population.

I might be the crazy one, but imo, the Hillary supporters who preach her ethical nature are the absolute crazy ones. Maybe not crazy, but in desperate denial or ignorance.
That's not one of her emails 
From: BIll Ivey To: John Podesta
Do you guys even read the shit you post? You guys are totally untrustworthy. Lies and more lies. It's ridiculous.
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: koods]
#23782935 - 10/29/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Partially corrected. But still, nothing yet about the terrorist funding, because it's so confusing right? The candidate that is obvsiously the ethical choice is conspiring (secretly) funding such an unethical, murderous organization.
The email from Bill Ivey is irrelevant to this thread anyway, so I admit I threw that in there as some kind of attempt for something.
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: koods]
#23782937 - 10/29/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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As to your question, I really don't feel like going through this right now. But there is another thread where I posted a long email that Clinton write explaining the complicated nature of dealing with the different players in the Middle East. It was a very good read.
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: koods]
#23782951 - 10/29/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lucky for you! I had the email stored on my ipad. I think when you read this, it will be a little harder to criticize Clinton's thinking. I'm not the only shroomerite who has actually taken the time to read Clinton's emails and come out having a better impression of her than before.
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On Aug 17, 2014 3:50 PM, "H" <hrod17@clintonemail.com> wrote: Note: Sources include Western intelligence, US intelligence and sources in the region.
1. With all of its tragic aspects, the advance of ISIL through Iraq gives the U.S. Government an opportunity to change the way it deals with the chaotic security situation in North Africa and the Middle East. The most important factor in this matter is to make use of intelligence resources and Special Operations troops in an aggressive manner, while avoiding the old school solution, which calls for more traditional military operations. In Iraq it is important that we engage ISIL using the resources of the Peshmerga fighters of the Kurdish Regional Government (KRG), and what, if any, reliable units exist in the Iraqi Army. The Peshmerga commanders are aggressive hard fighting troops, who have long standing relationships with CIA officers and Special Forces operators. However, they will need the continued commitment of U.S. personnel to work with them as advisors and strategic planners, the new generation of Peshmerga commanders being largely untested in traditional combat. That said, with this U.S. aid the Kurdish troops can inflict a real defeat on ISIL.
2. It is important that once we engage ISIL, as we have now done in a limited manner, we and our allies should carry on until they are driven back suffering a tangible defeat. Anything short of this will be seen by other fighters in the region, Libya, Lebanon, and even Jordan, as an American defeat. However, if we provide advisors and planners, as well as increased close air support for the Peshmerga, these soldiers can defeat ISIL. They will give the new Iraqi Government a chance to organize itself, and restructure the Sunni resistance in Syria, moving the center of power toward moderate forces like the Free Syrian Army (FSA). In addition to air support, the Peshmerga also need artillery and armored vehicles to deal with the tanks and other heavy equipment captured from the Iraqi army by ISIL.
3. In the past the USG, in an agreement with the Turkish General Staff, did not provide such heavy weapons to the Peshmerga, out of a concern that they would end up in the hands of Kurdish rebels inside of Turkey. The current situation in Iraq, not to mention the political environment in Turkey, makes this policy obsolete. Also this equipment can now be airlifted directly into the KRG zone.
4. Armed with proper equipment, and working with U.S. advisors, the Peshmerga can attack the ISIL with a coordinated assault supported from the air. This effort will come as a surprise to the ISIL, whose leaders believe we will always stop with targeted bombing, and weaken them both in Iraq and inside of Syria. At the same time we should return to plans to provide the FSA, or some group of moderate forces, with equipment that will allow them to deal with a weakened ISIL, and stepped up operations against the Syrian regime. This entire effort should be done with a low profile, avoiding the massive traditional military operations that are at best temporary solutions. While this military/para-military operation is moving forward, we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region. This effort will be enhanced by the stepped up commitment in the KRG. The Qataris and Saudis will be put in a position of balancing policy between their ongoing competition to dominate the Sunni world and the consequences of serious U.S. pressure. By the same token, the threat of similar, realistic U.S. operations will serve to assist moderate forces in Libya, Lebanon, and even Jordan, where insurgents are increasingly fascinated by the ISIL success in Iraq.
6. In the end the situation in Iraq is merely the latest and most dangerous example of the regional restructuring that is taking place across North Africa, all the way to the Turkish border. These developments are important to the U.S. for reasons that often differ from country to country: energy and moral commitment to Iraq, energy issues in Libya, and strategic commitments in Jordan. At the same time, as Turkey moves toward a new, more serious Islamic reality, it will be important for them to realize that we are willing to take serious actions, which can be sustained to protect our national interests. This course of action offers the potential for success, as opposed to large scale, traditional military campaigns, that are too expensive and awkward to maintain over time.
7. (Note: A source in Tripoli stated in confidence that when the U.S. Embassy was evacuated, the presence of two U.S. Navy jet fighters over the city brought all fighting to a halt for several hours, as Islamist forces were not certain that these aircraft would not also provide close ground support for moderate government forces.)
8. If we do not take the changes needed to make our security policy in the region more realistic, there is a real danger of ISIL veterans moving on to other countries to facilitate operations by Islamist forces. This is already happening in Libya and Egypt, where fighters are returning from Syria to work with local forces. ISIL is only the latest and most violent example of this process. If we don’t act to defeat them in Iraq something even more violent and dangerous will develop. Successful military operations against these very irregular but determined forces can only be accomplished by making proper use of clandestine/special operations resources, in coordination with airpower, and established local allies. There is, unfortunately, a narrow window of opportunity on this issue, as we need to act before an ISIL state becomes better organized and reaches into Lebanon and Jordan.
9. (Note: It is important to keep in mind that as a result of this policy there probably will be concern in the Sunni regions of Iraq and the Central Government regarding the possible expansion of KRG controlled territory. With advisors in the Peshmerga command we can reassure the concerned parties that, in return for increase autonomy, the KRG will not exclude the Iraqi Government from participation in the management of the oil fields around Kirkuk, and the Mosel Dam hydroelectric facility. At the same time we will be able to work with the Peshmerga as they pursue ISIL into disputed areas of Eastern Syria, coordinating with FSA troops who can move against ISIL from the North. This will make certain Basher al Assad does not gain an advantage from these operations. Finally, as it now appears the U.S. is considering a plan to offer contractors as advisors to the Iraqi Ministry of Defense, we will be in a position to coordinate more effectively between the Peshmerga and the Iraqi Army.)
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23782966 - 10/29/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: The world is a complicated place 
raping children is the will of god
Truth

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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: vinsue]
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23782991 - 10/29/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Great read for those interest
http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com
I encourage everyone to read all of the emails, not just the ones hostile universe wants you to read (and probably only out of context snippets)
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: koods]
#23783019 - 10/29/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd want more information for this part
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While this military/para-military operation is moving forward, we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region. This effort will be enhanced by the stepped up commitment in the KRG. The Qataris and Saudis will be put in a position of balancing policy between their ongoing competition to dominate the Sunni world and the consequences of serious U.S. pressure.
The plan is vague, I can't agree yet that it's a good read.
The part about putting pressure on Qatar and Saudi Arabia, "theyll be put in a position of balancing policy" I'm skeptical about that.. Serious consequences if they don't chill out on the ISIS funding? So we're letting them fund our enemy's a lil bit so we can get our foot into their territory while theyre happy occupied feeding ISIS. Why would Qatar and SA be OK with us obliterating ISIS when they like ISIS so much.
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Re: What is the catch with Hillary conspiring to arm and fund ISIS? [Re: trees]
#23783037 - 10/29/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's the great thing about these Wikileaks. You can see what she is saying in detail. She writes a lot of emails.
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