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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: Shroomism]
#23785284 - 10/30/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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here again you miss the point.
in my original reply i stated that perhaps the protesters are fascist (that seems to be the term you're searching for rather than 'liberal', by the way). i wouldn't know either way because i didn't catch enough of the story presented in the video to draw any sort of conclusion. considering how the u of c has had similar issues as berkeley, and the way that the u of c handled its protests, it wouldn't be surprising to see a similar move being made in this case. <--- this is my point by the way since you seem to need so much help with other people doing your thinking for you.
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: millzy]
#23785294 - 10/30/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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millzy said: and labeling the protesters as 'liberal' is a baseless assumption.
That's not at all a baseless assumption. Only liberals talk about safe spaces and white privilege.
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you also seem to be tossing around the term 'segregation' as if the students are pushing for a racially segregated society - by law - when it seems like they are merely protesting for 'safe spaces' on campus.
They want safe spaces specifically for 'people of color'. That's literally segregation. You were the one who jumped to some nonsense about segregating society by law, as if merely using the word segregation implies this.
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moreover, according to the video, there also seems to be some stuff about "profit over students". but that is kept to a minimum, most likely because it wouldn't jibe with the image that the students are a bunch of mindless lefty fascists. and perhaps they are. but something tells me that there's more to this than pc culture.
If you pause the video on the 'eviction notice' the dumbasses put on the student store, you would see that they are just pissy that the university gave the new building to the corporation instead of to them for their safe spaces and support groups.
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: millzy]
#23785318 - 10/30/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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millzy said: here again you miss the point.
in my original reply i stated that perhaps the protesters are fascist (that seems to be the term you're searching for rather than 'liberal', by the way). i wouldn't know either way because i didn't catch enough of the story presented in the video to draw any sort of conclusion. considering how the u of c has had similar issues as berkeley, and the way that the u of c handled its protests, it wouldn't be surprising to see a similar move being made in this case. <--- this is my point by the way since you seem to need so much help with other people doing your thinking for you.
"draw any sort of conclusion"
Your inability to draw any conclusion on an obvious outcome is based in denial.
"similar move being made in this case"
Yeah, restricting peoples movement based on race is now referred to as a "move"?
Edited by qman (10/30/16 12:33 PM)
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: qman]
#23785338 - 10/30/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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millzy said: and labeling the protesters as 'liberal' is a baseless assumption.
That's not at all a baseless assumption. Only liberals talk about safe spaces and white privilege.
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you also seem to be tossing around the term 'segregation' as if the students are pushing for a racially segregated society - by law - when it seems like they are merely protesting for 'safe spaces' on campus.
They want safe spaces specifically for 'people of color'. That's literally segregation. You were the one who jumped to some nonsense about segregating society by law, as if merely using the word segregation implies this.
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moreover, according to the video, there also seems to be some stuff about "profit over students". but that is kept to a minimum, most likely because it wouldn't jibe with the image that the students are a bunch of mindless lefty fascists. and perhaps they are. but something tells me that there's more to this than pc culture.
If you pause the video on the 'eviction notice' the dumbasses put on the student store, you would see that they are just pissy that the university gave the new building to the corporation instead of to them for their safe spaces and support groups.
i actually wasn't the person who used the term 'segregation' initially; it was whoever titled the video. and i find it hard to believe that it was used without the intent of conjuring up the image of de jure segregation (only this time against whitey).
and again, you're not being presented with the whole story. maybe the students are dumbasses. i'm hesitant to draw that conclusion whereas you are not because you clearly have an axe to grind with pc culture and all that it entails to you, i.e. 'liberals', 'reverse racism' etc.
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millzy said: here again you miss the point.
in my original reply i stated that perhaps the protesters are fascist (that seems to be the term you're searching for rather than 'liberal', by the way). i wouldn't know either way because i didn't catch enough of the story presented in the video to draw any sort of conclusion. considering how the u of c has had similar issues as berkeley, and the way that the u of c handled its protests, it wouldn't be surprising to see a similar move being made in this case. <--- this is my point by the way since you seem to need so much help with other people doing your thinking for you.
"draw any sort of conclusion"
Your inability to draw any conclusion on an obvious outcome is based in denial.
"similar move being made in this case"
Yeah, restricting peoples movement based on race is now referred to as a "move"? 
my inability to draw a conclusion is based in a lack of factual evidence.
(see above for the rest of how i would respond.)
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: millzy] 2
#23785374 - 10/30/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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millzy said: i actually wasn't the person who used the term 'segregation' initially; it was whoever titled the video. and i find it hard to believe that it was used without the intent of conjuring up the image of de jure segregation (only this time against whitey).
and again, you're not being presented with the whole story. maybe the students are dumbasses. i'm hesitant to draw that conclusion whereas you are not because you clearly have an axe to grind with pc culture and all that it entails to you, i.e. 'liberals', 'reverse racism' etc.
I didn't say you were the one who used the term initially. I said you were the one who jumped to the idea of societal segregation by law. Who is coming to conclusions sans evidence now? Wanting safe spaces for colored students only is literally segregation. Why would they not use that word?
I'm so glad you are refraining from drawing conclusions about the protestors while simultaneously drawing conclusions about me and what pc culture entails to me. Apparently you think jackasses making fools of themselves instead of doing what college is for deserve the benefit of the doubt while some person on the internet who pointed out your nonsense doesn't.
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: millzy]
#23785389 - 10/30/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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"you're not being presented with the full story...my inability to draw a conclusion is based in a lack of factual evidence"
Just stop, you're making yourself look very foolish at this point.
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: qman] 3
#23785403 - 10/30/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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He's just being pseudo-intellectual. It's kind of his thing.
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: qman]
#23785411 - 10/30/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I didn't watch the video or read in on this story here, just sort of took the op and some others describing what happened at face value.
So there may have been no violence yet but their actions of blocking people is certainly likely to lead to physical altercation and violence. And if you don't believe that allow me to play a game with you called "stop hitting yourself."
So theres that aspect there, but lets not forget what these bigots are essentially doing..which is participating in this ever growing in popularity neo-liberal/anti-white/racist movement. These people are the radical left. Each side, left and right, have their batshit extremists. (Think Rush Limbaugh and Micheal More for example)
But it seems like these radical left are prolific in numbers recently. Much more so than the right and with much more incident of violent attacks. In chicago my home town, when they had the trump rally, many showed up to protest. HUGE numbers..
The police were instructed to intervene only if it got really nasty. So you had groups of punks doing things like bullying 60 year old women. Screaming in their ears, spitting, threatening, throwing shit. The police were told to treat the protesters with kid gloves because the animals would explode into a fucking frenzy if too many started getting detained/arrested.
I as a white male really feel like a war is being waged on me by the extreme left for no other reason than my race.
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: clock_of_omens]
#23785422 - 10/30/16 01:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are you talking about yourself in the third fucking person? Split personality or what? 
EDIT: nevermind
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: greencrush420]
#23785426 - 10/30/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bro, ur trippin.
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: clock_of_omens]
#23785438 - 10/30/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So many squishy unathletic bodies. Just start dropping them till they get the hint that you need to go to class. Isn't Berkeley suppose to be a smart school?
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: Webster10]
#23785443 - 10/30/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: Then, after they all leave, we could all sit back and see what happens to the grade point average, crime rate and graduation rate of the university.
Lol, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, UC Berkeley and UCLA are already mostly minority universities, and they're some of the safest and best schools in the country.
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: clock_of_omens]
#23785446 - 10/30/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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clock_of_omens said: He's just being pseudo-intellectual. It's kind of his thing.
why did i picture this being said in tom seguerras voice lol
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: clock_of_omens]
#23785452 - 10/30/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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wanting safe spaces is not 'segregation' as the term is widely interpreted (i.e. de jure segregation as we saw up until the early 60's). while i do not have evidence of the author's intent, it would seem strange to use that word and have it mean something else.
and that is hardly as much of a stretch as assuming that the students were acting like a bunch of savages. but again, perhaps they were. perhaps blocking off entrances is wrong in all cases. i can get on board with that. but what i can't get on board with is assuming that i know the whole story of what's going on when i clearly do not. i am inclined to believe that the students were probably riled up about much more than 'segregating' their campus, that the university framed the events in a way to draw attention away from those reasons, and i have good reasons to believe why that's true (because another campus with nearly identical problems is doing the same thing).
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clock_of_omens said: He's just being pseudo-intellectual. It's kind of his thing.
says the ponderously arrogant poster who is obtuse for its own sake, who buys into psuedo-intellectual fads like 'pc culture'. if thinking a little more deeply about things makes me a 'psuedo-intellectual' in your eyes then i'll gladly wear that crown. at least i can be civil to those i disagree with, unlike yourself.
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: Crystal G] 3
#23785454 - 10/30/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Doesn't seem safe for whites. Also, clearly they're not actually smart.
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: Webster10]
#23785464 - 10/30/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think they should have started a fire in the building and only allowed non-whites and genderqueers to evacuate.
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: Webster10]
#23785468 - 10/30/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Saw 3 blacks guys harassing a white couple on mill last night. talking shit like "leave that white pussy for a real nigga". Girl was racist for not going with them. Bitch.
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23785495 - 10/30/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: I think they should have started a fire in the building and only allowed non-whites and genderqueers to evacuate.
Yeah, you would be thrilled to be burned alive for your white guilt, or would you be safe because you're "genderqueer"?
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: clock_of_omens] 2
#23785519 - 10/30/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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"I as a white male really feel like a war is being waged on me by the extreme left for no other reason than my race."
I'd also like to add that me just saying this puts me on a list, a certain false demographic of militant radical conservative according to the media and liberal extremists.
Which is hilarious because i dont fit the profile at all. I'm not religious, I'm pro choice, i don't even own a gun lol. Not that it would be hard for me (in cook county/chicago) to obtain an illegal firearm. Of course its no coincidence that chicago is democrat controlled and corrupt as fuck. Not to mention dangerous. Must be all those numerous effective gun laws and the efficient allocation of funds/resources huh?
I'm truly scared that i or a loved one will at some point be victimized for being white. And its my believe that civil unrest, mass riots, and potential race wars are around the corner. I believe martial law is likely imminent.
I think with Hilary we can expect a serious war. And with trump i think we can expect riots and martial law.
I dont think its conspiracy theory to say that some really serious shit is around the corner for the US, and that it's being planned and shaped by the government and media.
Ask yourself this, why is obama "the pacifist" suddenly stirring shit up abroad? Is he trying to drop a catastrophe on the next president?
Is he perhaps manufacturing some big crisis so that he can avoid relinquishing his throne?
I think this is a bit far out there but i heard some people speculate that after the government/media causes civil unrest/mass riots that martial law will be enacted and that military swat teams will go door to door relinquishing people's arms.. Now i dont know if id go that far, i dont believe it could happen but you never know. Like i said i think we all can agree some bad shit is in store for Americans
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Re: Liberal students at UC Berkley demand a return to segregation [Re: millzy]
#23785530 - 10/30/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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millzy said: wanting safe spaces is not 'segregation' as the term is widely interpreted (i.e. de jure segregation as we saw up until the early 60's). while i do not have evidence of the author's intent, it would seem strange to use that word and have it mean something else.
Lol. Go look up the word segregation. The 'de jure' segregation you are apparently obsessed with is not the meaning of the word. This is obvious considering the fact that 'de jure' is an adjective modifying the word segregation. Using segregation to mean something other than legal segregation is not strange in the least. You assuming that legal segregation is what is meant any time a person uses the word segregation is what is strange.
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and that is hardly as much of a stretch as assuming that the students were acting like a bunch of savages. but again, perhaps they were. perhaps blocking off entrances is wrong in all cases. i can get on board with that. but what i can't get on board with is assuming that i know the whole story of what's going on when i clearly do not. i am inclined to believe that the students were probably riled up about much more than 'segregating' their campus, that the university framed the events in a way to draw attention away from those reasons, and i have good reasons to believe why that's true (because another campus with nearly identical problems is doing the same thing).
Never said savages. However, you don't need to assume anything about how the students were acting. Watch the fucking video and see with your very own eyes how the students were acting.
What the fuck are you on about with this university framing the issue nonsense? Did the university shoot and release that video? I'm pretty sure not. You can see in the video what they are protesting via their chants, signs, and idiotic 'eviction notice' they post on the school store. It doesn't exactly take Sherlock to put the pieces together.
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millzy said: says the ponderously arrogant poster who is obtuse for its own sake, who buys into psuedo-intellectual fads like 'pc culture'. if thinking a little more deeply about things makes me a 'psuedo-intellectual' in your eyes then i'll gladly wear that crown. at least i can be civil to those i disagree with, unlike yourself.
There's nothing wrong with arrogance if one can back it up. There's no need to be jealous that my intelligence reaches Olympian heights.
Thinking a little more deeply does not make one pseudo-intellectual. Strolling all over the shroomery pretentiously acting as if one is thinking a little more deeply about issues when one is really just spewing nonsense makes one pseudo-intellectual.
Calling people names on the internet is much more civil than blocking the passage of fellow students at college. I wonder why you are giving them a pass.
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